Are Microsoft quitting the console hardware market?

Are Microsoft discontinuing Xbox consoles?

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Connificent said:
Console gaming is dead
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As in no console to compete with the PS6.
They absolutely will be making a next Xbox.

After that.....well thats what 15 years or some shit from now?
Thats like what 2040 for the next next Xbox?
 
Fess said:
Just a thought…

With Valve entering the market with PC handhelds and prebuilds and possibly console-like Steam Machines completely sidelining Windows and running their own SteamOS, is it wise for Microsoft to help Steam grow even bigger?

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By helping them grow on Windows, they keep them on Windows and don't allow them to grow something like Linux at the expense of Windows.

They want the Valve/Windows dependency to be as strong as possible because it's in Microsoft's longer strategic benefit for it to be so, and if the Xbox brand and marketshare evaporates in the process then they broke some eggs to make an omelet.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
Over the past few weeks and months now there's been various reports on here of people around the world being unable to find Xbox consoles at retail.

That coupled with yesterdays reports that the handheld Xbox has now been canned, could the XSX DE end up being the final piece of Microsoft hardware bearing the "Xbox" name?

With Microsoft experiencing huge sales due to the massive PS5 user base and the possibility of replicating this on Switch 2, do Microsoft even need Xbox anymore?
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They will continue to make consoles just with a different approach.
 
I think they are done with premium upgrades (too expensive for the volume they sell) and dedicated handheld (they can't compete against Cerny's handheld, Switch 2) as they know they'll fail to make a compelling product. If the PSP2 can play PS4 and some PS5 games (most of them apparently), Xbox handheld will be a complete failure as that handheld won't be able to play native XSX games, maybe barely XSS which will be directely compared against PS5 games.

But they have still million of Xbox customers who buy their main consoles + gamepass there. I don't see them stopping catering to those paying customers yet.
 
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Of course they are, because it's the smart thing to do. Publishing games, being multiplatform, offering SaaS/streaming is much more profitable and clearly the direction everything's heading to. The old console model will be a dinosaur in a 10 years.
 
nani17 said:
Isn't that what modern consoles are kindly like now?
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They still have custom os and hardware components.

The next Xbox, imo, will be a pc made using off the shelves parts and either the og windows or a custom version of it as system os.

It would kind of be like a desktop surface line. MS will make a "model" piece like surface laptops for third party companies to use as base. They will set some criteria and third party companies meeting those criteria can launch Xbox branded hardware
 
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Can't see them quiting, but working like they do wth keyboards and whatever. They have on of them, but third parties works fine also

Xbox will be first a service than a console
 
Whatever it is they make as the next Xbox it's likely it will only be available directly from Microsoft in the same way the only way to buy a (new) Steamdeck is direct from Valve.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
Over the past few weeks and months now there's been various reports on here of people around the world being unable to find Xbox consoles at retail.

That coupled with yesterdays reports that the handheld Xbox has now been canned, could the XSX DE end up being the final piece of Microsoft hardware bearing the "Xbox" name?

With Microsoft experiencing huge sales due to the massive PS5 user base and the possibility of replicating this on Switch 2, do Microsoft even need Xbox anymore?
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MS already gave the answer to that question. MS doesn't need Xbox consoles to keep the Xbox brand name alive. MS went multiplatform, Xbox can be anything that runs MS software, Xbox consoles aren't being sold in retail in lots of places anymore. It's joever.

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RetroGamingUK said:
Over the past few weeks and months now there's been various reports on here of people around the world being unable to find Xbox consoles at retail.

That coupled with yesterdays reports that the handheld Xbox has now been canned, could the XSX DE end up being the final piece of Microsoft hardware bearing the "Xbox" name?

With Microsoft experiencing huge sales due to the massive PS5 user base and the possibility of replicating this on Switch 2, do Microsoft even need Xbox anymore?
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lol 😂 Next gen Xbox already confirmed 👍
 
Insanemaelstrom said:
They still have custom os and hardware components.

The next Xbox, imo, will be a pc made using off the shelves parts and either the og windows or a custom version of it as system os.

It would kind of be like a desktop surface line. MS will make a "model" piece like surface laptops for third party companies to use as base. They will set some criteria and third party companies meeting those criteria can launch Xbox branded hardware
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And it will fail horribly because current Xbox owners won't be able to take their the entirety of their current games library to that new "Xbox" unless a title is officially "Play Anywhere" or on "Game Pass". If it isn't, then MS will have to renegotiate with a 3rd party publisher and pay substantial money to make it so. Software companies aren't going to convert Xbox licenses into PC licenses for free out of the goodness of their heart and I don't see MS willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on giving software away for free.
 
Eventually. We might see the decline of hardware that locks consumers into a single ecosystem. Walled gardens are too consumer hostile to survive in the long run in this age.
 
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Whatever they are doing with hardware, it is fucking stupid. Raise the price of the losing console while the winning console is on discount. Who in their right mind would buy one now?

If they go the PC route, I hope they can they make the OS dual boot with Windows or some other way to switch that sees the benefits of the gaming OS. I'd be interested in testing it out on my rigs. Heck for the kids PC It could be the main.
 
The end goal is for Xbox to be a cloud streamed service, at some point the hardware will just be a streaming dongle or just an app.
 
Fess said:
Just a thought…

With Valve entering the market with PC handhelds and prebuilds and possibly console-like Steam Machines completely sidelining Windows and running their own SteamOS, is it wise for Microsoft to help Steam grow even bigger?

🤔
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Good point
 
The Xbox brand will stay, the traditional walled garden plastic boxes however seem kinda pointless with their market share and their subscription/play anywhere strategy.
Maybe we'll get another gen or maybe we'll already see partner hardware with an Xbox certified label or sth.
 
I mean ignoring the fact that they have said new consoles are coming (more than once), Gamepass needs hardware, at the moment anyway. And there are literally millions of long time Xbox users with accounts full of bought games, dlc, mtx, etc. And isnt Xbox live like one of their biggest Xbox revenue streams?.

People are thinking with their hearts and not their heads. There will always be Xbox hardware, and they will only stop if they release new console/consoles, and they flop so hard, like half a mil sales in a year or something.
Or when they eventually decide to go streaming only (which they all will do at some point).
 
if they had difficult time selling Xbox series consoles with some exclusive games, imagine trying to sell the next consoles with no exclusives. who is gonna spend £600 on a console with no exclusives lol they will fold no doubt, they will try the whole third party publisher thing, then realise that Nintendo is right when they say if they did not have their own hardware they would lose motivation and their games would suffer, so I expect them cut down most of their studio's after closing their hardware business.
 
MS has already confirmed they will be issuing next-gen hardware. In that sense, the question has already been answered: no.

However, as we all know, it won't be a traditional console, it will be a hybrid PC-ish thing. If you want to say MS is "done with console hardware" because that won't be a "console," that's fine. But MS is planning next-gen hardware designed to play their games and sustain their ecosystem for Xbox gamers. They've made that clear.
 
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Microsoft and Playstation are both going to run into the same problem. Tech isn't advancing enough and the markets aren't reasonable enough for them to offer a next gen console with a reasonable leap in tech for $500-$600. The costs will definitely be higher and this will (possibly) start to push some people into PC gaming. The question is, does nvidia want to be there with actual reasonably priced hardware to take advantage of this.

Sony can take the hit of a cheaper subsidized cost because their system is guaranteed to sell 100mil and recoup on software sales. Microsoft doesn't have that luxury. This is less of a problem for Sony, but still most definitely a problem.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
Could you provide the exact quote that Microsoft gave?
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You already know it was confirmed by MS. Why are you playing console warrior games?

"We'll definitely do more consoles in the future, and other devices," Spencer confirmed.

"We are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware, focused on delivering the biggest technological leap ever in a generation." Sara Bond confirmed.

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Kvally said:
You already know it was confirmed by MS. Why are you playing console warrior games?

"We'll definitely do more consoles in the future, and other devices," Spencer confirmed.

"We are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware, focused on delivering the biggest technological leap ever in a generation." Sara Bond confirmed.

Office Tv Youre Welcome GIF by The Office
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Yes, you're right, I already knew.

I just wanted to hear it from you so that I could point out that they never used the term "console".
 
I have a feeling they might put something out once the new liquidity cycle kicks in. At the moment no one gonna be buying old hardware when everyone is broke.

Plus when a new hybrid is coming out from Nintendo I think xbox know they can sit this one out and just pull in the gamepass renewal money.
 
I think Microsoft will launch another console, but as a niche product with low expectations to leave the door open for exiting the market if it fails.
 
Kvally said:
"We'll definitely do more consoles in the future, and other devices," Spencer confirmed.

Maybe slow down before you post next time?
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Well you are talking to the poster that gives us hard hitting analysis such as:

RetroGamingUK

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Everything Microsoft touches these days turns to shit.

No one wants to buy their consoles.

No one wants to buy their games.
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For some reason the continued existence of Xbox hardware appears to be an ongoing personal crisis for him.
 
Of course they are - just very slowly

They wont discontinue Series consoles… they will just slowly throttle the supplies until noone cares
 
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