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Are there any games you played/finished and enjoyed that were considered "woke"?
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Fbh
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TLOU2 I guess?
The gameplay and production values where great.
The story was meh and the pacing was terrible though
Solid 7/10
That's the problem with "woke" as a term. It doesn't really have a set definition that everyone agrees on, so it's pretty meaningless.
Some people call everything "woke" as soon as the main character is not a white male or a hot female, or there are gay characters. Others see it more as diversity being added in a way that feels forced and unnatural and is only there trying to please a certain loud online demographic. For others it's more about the tone being preachy or more concerned about delivering some "progressive" social messaging than telling a compelling story.
Like in one of my favourite games, The Outer Wilds, all the characters are gender neutral aliens that use "they/them" pronouns, and while yeah it's a bit jarring to read, I wouldn't call the game "woke" because of it
The gameplay and production values where great.
The story was meh and the pacing was terrible though
Solid 7/10
That's the problem with "woke" as a term. It doesn't really have a set definition that everyone agrees on, so it's pretty meaningless.
Some people call everything "woke" as soon as the main character is not a white male or a hot female, or there are gay characters. Others see it more as diversity being added in a way that feels forced and unnatural and is only there trying to please a certain loud online demographic. For others it's more about the tone being preachy or more concerned about delivering some "progressive" social messaging than telling a compelling story.
Like in one of my favourite games, The Outer Wilds, all the characters are gender neutral aliens that use "they/them" pronouns, and while yeah it's a bit jarring to read, I wouldn't call the game "woke" because of it
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Toots
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With a pipe in one hand and a poppy flower in the other he might not be woke but he's definitely litIs Ardha from SMT ”woke”?
(seriously tho it's smt so its the depiction of some deity... Looks like damodara (the blue skinned krishna avatar) on the left and a cutie with perky tits on the right)
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FoxMcChief
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And enjoyed? Nah. I beat Spider-Man 2, but I can’t say I enjoyed my overall time with it.
FoxMcChief
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Kidding because even if that final boss was kinda weird, I doubt it was made to push any kind of agenda.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Destiny 2
The Cockatrice
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Recently Spider-man 2 without a doubt. Ghostrunner 2 and ofc Elden Ring, especially the DLC but hardly anyone cares since its Japanese made so they are instantly pardoned because double standards right?
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Bartski
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Ok. So game plots about gender fluid gay romancing demigods are totally not woke, if the intention behind them is other than to push an agenda. Do you think all games labeled and blasted for being woke are made to push an agenda? Look no further than examples in this thread
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Yeah, that's my opinion. It's not like the game's rubbing on your face how gay Miquella is at all times nor trying to push an agenda about it. It just so happens to be a character that really loves his brother (might not be even in a sexual way).
Plus, that twink's the antagonist, one that rejects all his humanity to achieve his objective and that works by brainwashing people. It's not a perfect Marie-sue in any kind of way, so I don't see how that character can be considered woke in any way.
The ones that I consider to be woke? Yeah, for sure. Either the devs want to push an agenda or they were paid to do so.
But then again, the definition of woke might change depending on the person you ask about it. For me, games like TLOU2, Spider-Man 2 or that Dustborn game sure are woke as hell. They rub their message on your face at all times, with 0 subtlety, and even put that crap above the actual gameplay at times.
The Cockatrice
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Body Type A Body Type B says all you need to know about ER and similar games. Catering to the crazy mob is same shit as being woke in my eyes, maybe not as much, but still shite even if the games are good.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Yeah that stuff about body types is dumb as hell, not gonna argue about that.
At least is just a slight cringe on the character creator, nothing deal-breaking imo.
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Guilty_AI
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Also worth mentioning it was done by localization teams, JP version is just normal man/woman
The Cockatrice
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Yet. We also laughed at horse armor and didnt call it a deal breaker and look where we are now. Tho if Wukong is any indication, perhaps the world may be partially healing.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Didn't know that! Wonder if it was the same for Monster Hunter Rise.
I really hope so man, I really do.
The Cockatrice
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Wait really? Thats insane. I didnt know this either, dafuq. Considering all the bad shit we've seen with localization teams pulling, I wonder if all the text in-game/lore is accurate.
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The Incarnation
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Not that I recall.
I did once read a Daily Mail article by Piers Morgan and got radicalised.
Can't stop saying triggered, woke and snowflake now.
I did once read a Daily Mail article by Piers Morgan and got radicalised.
Can't stop saying triggered, woke and snowflake now.
diffusionx
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I liked God of War Ragnarok, even though the ending ruined the game for me.
PeteBull
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U can present/talk/have gay or other things in ur game and it doesnt need to be woke, same way this movie, even tho it had many diverse characters had nothing woke in it
Game/movie being woke doesnt mean it talks about gay/gender etc, it means its insane/cringe about it, aka defies logic.
Ppl give example of spiderman2, where maryjane 1- got uglyfied to look like she is in her 50s, yet can not only have sex but keep longterm relationship with superhero young stud like peter parker with stable job and decent sized house in new york- normally woman looking like that wouldnt qualify for one night stand for a guy like peter(looks/intelingence/wealth/status), since he has plethora bad bitches around him.
2- she fights off trained soldiers as a woman who avg gaffer would literally 1 or max 2shot (yes even 150lbs guys who never experienced fistfight would have 0 problem with mj irl
Just watch this yt vid, its explained there
And u can even see footage of mj taking down trained supervillians/soldiers.
Last Hearth
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Baldur's Gate 3.
Bartski
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I'm not a language expert but to the best of my knowledge that is not how you define a "consort" in medieval terms
I see what you mean, but "pushing woke agenda" means a portrayal of certain themes with the ulterior motve of advancing a particular set of ideas, goals, or policies, such as normalizing transsexuality, and yes the industry is sure full of it, with prime examples like the Dustborn where the devs point blank brag about it. But I'm sure a lot of games from that list is just people with certain outlook on reality trying to make games with characters they want to see and stories they just want to write. That's just California. Shift Up made Stellar Blade and I somehow don't think they did it with an agenda to push of re-normallizing hot chicks in gaming. If I were to make games with bro-dudes and bikini armor ladies (need more of those in my life goddamit) that's not because I want to advance the image of classic partiarchal dominance, I just think that's a cool theme.
U can present/talk/have gay or other things in ur game and it doesnt need to be woke, same way this movie, even tho it had many diverse characters had nothing woke in it
Game/movie being woke doesnt mean it talks about gay/gender etc, it means its insane/cringe about it, aka defies logic.
Ppl give example of spiderman2, where maryjane 1- got uglyfied to look like she is in her 50s, yet can not only have sex but keep longterm relationship with superhero young stud like peter parker with stable job and decent sized house in new york- normally woman looking like that wouldnt qualify for one night stand for a guy like peter(looks/intelingence/wealth/status), since he has plethora bad bitches around him.
2- she fights off trained soldiers as a woman who avg gaffer would literally 1 or max 2shot (yes even 150lbs guys who never experienced fistfight would have 0 problem with mj irl
Just watch this yt vid, its explained there
And u can even see footage of mj taking down trained supervillians/soldiers.
I didn't play Spiderman 2 and I totally hear you about the STONG EMPOWERED WAMEN trope but I find it more hilarious than outrageous. I like female protagonists tho and I don't usually pay as much attention to measuring their chin size as I see on twitter.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Whoops, you are right there, somehow forgot about the consort thing for a second. My mistake.
While I agree with all of this, I'd like to add that imo Elden Ring didn't include a gay character to push any kind of message. And if that was their goal, making that character be an evil brainwashing antagonist isn't the best way to do so imo.
PeteBull
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I didnt play it either, and i like female protagonists too, played for example nier automata, drakengard games, and ofc many tomb raider games like probably most of gaf oldtimers, both the 90s games with og super sexy lara croft and the rebooted games which were solid too
There are many more amazing games with female protagonists, which absolutelly arent woke, bayonetta series or even from sony itself
Guilty_AI
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nvm, its still body type in japanse, which is weird considering i remember checking it back on release and seeing they used man/woman. I probably mixed up with some other japanese game.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
cireza
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I think you meant Outer Worlds.
The Cockatrice
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Everyone did. I also bought the remaster upgrade for PS5. So yeah.
Sushi_Combo
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Perfect Dark.
The ultimate woke game.
The ultimate woke game.
Putonahappyface
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Life is Strange franchise
The Last of Us Part 2
Horizon Forbidden West
Spiderman Miles Morales (fucking hated that game)
The Last of Us Part 2
Horizon Forbidden West
Spiderman Miles Morales (fucking hated that game)
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Oops, Rift Apart of course!
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
If making a stop in the middle of a zombie apocalypse to appreciate some gay porn or make a tour on a synagogue while reflecting about the holocaust isn't woke, then I don't know what it is.
Danjin44
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Its Shiva and his wife Parvati becoming one being, similar to Queen Marika and Radegon.With a pipe in one hand and a poppy flower in the other he might not be woke but he's definitely lit
(seriously tho it's smt so its the depiction of some deity... Looks like damodara (the blue skinned krishna avatar) on the left and a cutie with perky tits on the right)
proandrad
Member
Feel people forgot the concept of tolerance. You can disagree with something and still be respectful at the same time.
TexMex
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If making a stop in the middle of a zombie apocalypse to appreciate some gay porn or make a tour on a synagogue while reflecting about the holocaust isn't woke, then I don't know what it is.
Moth to a flame, you guys can’t resist.
Toots
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Of course, thanks for the info !
Could have done without the second part though
. What's next, Jesus being similar to zack snyder's superman ???(sorry for being cunty about it, i know we are on a vg forum but i feel there's something very wrong in saying anything from classical myth is similar to anything videogame related instead of the other way around)
Danjin44
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Is not that strange video game taking inspiration from real world mythology and religion.…my point was this is much more to do with FROM taking inspiration from mythology rather try to be “woke”.Of course, thanks for the info !
Could have done without the second part though
(sorry for being cunty about it, i know we are on a vg forum but i feel there's something very wrong in saying anything from classical myth is similar to anything videogame related instead of the other way around)
WhamBamThankYouMaam
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I couldn’t care less if a game is cobsidered woke or not, to be honest. However it seems to me that the games engsging in political comment usually fare less well due to putting the actual gaming experience in the back seat.
peek
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Not true. In the japanese version they also use the cringe inducing body type A/B or 1/2 forgot which one. Give me a sec I give you a vid.
Probably my favorite Japanese youtuber for gaming. At 3:15 is when you see it. He even gets confused, like uhh.. what is type A or type B? Then he quickly figured out, "oh it means guy or girl."
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FeralEcho
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I tend to avoid them like a plague....
I bought Spiderman 2 though (since Spiderman PS4 is one of my favourite superhero games)...bought it on launch thinking it can't be that bad.
In the begining it went pretty fine,It didn't feel condescending or trying to send "the message" through the writting,seeing Mary Jawline Watson made me want to put a hammer through my tv but I grinded my teeth and continued since I enjoyed everything not relating to her...I worked on 100%ing the game like I do with most games generally.Then around the half point,or maybe earlier,it started...
As Spiderman Morales(in costume) having to help a gay couple in school finding love instead of you know...fighting fucking crime (And they were so stereotipically gay,I was almost expecting them to burst into rainbow confetti),Mary Jane treating Pete like shit because of his symbiote suit then acting distant as he explained that he wasn't himself and apologising but then exercising her "stronk female privilage" by turning Peter into a cuck mop during
And after all that gaslighting,she goes sorry Pete,I didn't really mean it.And Peter Parcuck immediately goes to put blame on himself instead.As if she was the victim and she was actually right about him...
Guy has no fucking self esteem.They killed his character and made him into a mop for Mary Jawline's moods.
Then how about playing as a disabled person,because nothing's more fun than not hearing shit,now available to a videogame near you.A superhero one at that because being deaf is a superpower nowadays...
I actually got platinum for this pos because I had 2 trophies left but it's by faaaaar my most disgusting platinum.I hate this game and what they did to this IP.
I bought Spiderman 2 though (since Spiderman PS4 is one of my favourite superhero games)...bought it on launch thinking it can't be that bad.
In the begining it went pretty fine,It didn't feel condescending or trying to send "the message" through the writting,seeing Mary Jawline Watson made me want to put a hammer through my tv but I grinded my teeth and continued since I enjoyed everything not relating to her...I worked on 100%ing the game like I do with most games generally.Then around the half point,or maybe earlier,it started...
As Spiderman Morales(in costume) having to help a gay couple in school finding love instead of you know...fighting fucking crime (And they were so stereotipically gay,I was almost expecting them to burst into rainbow confetti),Mary Jane treating Pete like shit because of his symbiote suit then acting distant as he explained that he wasn't himself and apologising but then exercising her "stronk female privilage" by turning Peter into a cuck mop during
the Scream section where she's taken over by the symbiote telling Peter how he's always bringing her down,how he does nothing but think about himself and not others(dude is literally jobless,loveless,parentless,gave up his only living relative to save the world,is in constant suffering with his only relief is a gaslighting bitch and she has the audacity to think that about him...think,yes,think because even if she was taken over by the symbiote all the symbiote does is highlight the bad thoughts,fears and feelings the person already existing in that person and making them worse,which happened with peter too,ofc,but on a much lesser scale,he was basically just a dick to others and just got drunk on power because of his fear of failing unlike her which basically did a complete destruction of his character
And after all that gaslighting,she goes sorry Pete,I didn't really mean it.And Peter Parcuck immediately goes to put blame on himself instead.As if she was the victim and she was actually right about him...
Guy has no fucking self esteem.They killed his character and made him into a mop for Mary Jawline's moods.
Then how about playing as a disabled person,because nothing's more fun than not hearing shit,now available to a videogame near you.A superhero one at that because being deaf is a superpower nowadays...
I actually got platinum for this pos because I had 2 trophies left but it's by faaaaar my most disgusting platinum.I hate this game and what they did to this IP.
TrebleShot
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Ragnarok
Madserb2023
Member
If the game is really good then I will play it, but if a game is average at best and it's woke then I won't touch it.
MALpractice311
Member
Echoing many other people in this topic, yes, Spider Man 2 and TLOU2. The gameplay in both was good enough to where I could mostly ignore that heavy handed pandering. Mostly.
Spider Man 2 was so strange to me. It was clearly a Peter-focused story and the inclusion of Miles was just not done well. It felt like the devs wrote a story for Peter and then were mandated to include a playable Miles, but they couldn't come up with any real logical reason to include him. So instead they just gave him random token liberal side quests that were unrelated to anything else going on in with the core conflict. And here's the thing, I think Miles' game was actually just as good, if not a little bit better, than Spider Man 1. They should have made SM2 a Pete solo game and then did a Miles 2 where he could actually get a decent story for himself instead of feeling like he was forced into SM2 to meet a quota.
As to TLOU2, there's nothing redeeming about that game's story. Literally nothing. Retcons. Plot holes. Characters doing stupid, illogical things to make the plot happen. I have no problem with killing Joel. It was a bold move. It just wasn't done well.
Spider Man 2 was so strange to me. It was clearly a Peter-focused story and the inclusion of Miles was just not done well. It felt like the devs wrote a story for Peter and then were mandated to include a playable Miles, but they couldn't come up with any real logical reason to include him. So instead they just gave him random token liberal side quests that were unrelated to anything else going on in with the core conflict. And here's the thing, I think Miles' game was actually just as good, if not a little bit better, than Spider Man 1. They should have made SM2 a Pete solo game and then did a Miles 2 where he could actually get a decent story for himself instead of feeling like he was forced into SM2 to meet a quota.
As to TLOU2, there's nothing redeeming about that game's story. Literally nothing. Retcons. Plot holes. Characters doing stupid, illogical things to make the plot happen. I have no problem with killing Joel. It was a bold move. It just wasn't done well.
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