Are you impressed yet with MS?

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It took a while, but I can see now that they are a real contender for the videogame market with the aquisition of the two RPG's from Mistwalker. They arent giving up despite the complete failure it was in Japan. They also are getting a lot of dev support froun Euro companies.

I used to think that there is absolutely no way that they could catch up to Sony unless Sony does a huge blunder, but now I am not sure if that is needed.
 
I'm impressed with certain areas, not impressed with others. Love their online strategy. And no matter what RPGs they get from an unproven new development team, they have not impressed me with appealing to the Japanese-centric markets. Not yet. But I'm looking to Xbox 2 as much as any other, so here's to a great next 6 years.
 
The design team needs to and probably was shot by a firing squad in the parking lot. The need to tighten their first party up (blinx, never forget) I am very impressed with how they took a new brand that was hated, and made it cool. They are the leader in online play, which is impressive. If the improve next gen, Sony is going to have a fight on it's hands.
 
Definitely. I'm saddened at the same time because Nintendo's end is just becoming more and more imminent, but the Xbox is a great console and the Xbox 2 should be even better. They've done an admirable job -- having a never-ending coffer certainly doesnt hurt.
 
Yea,I was a hardcore Nintendo fan and even though I still love them,I'd definitely have to say Xbox has easily been my favorite console this gen.Online has alot to do with it...
 
Doom_Bringer said:
After the Mistwalker thing, yeah!
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When it comes to the content on the Xbox, I'm impressed. When it comes to their success, not quite. They've lost too much money.
 
CVXFREAK said:
When it comes to the content on the Xbox, I'm impressed. When it comes to their success, not quite. They've lost too much money.
Yeah it saddens me to when a giant publicly traded corporation that makes billions in profit every year loses money. Breaks my heart. :)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
What's that suppose to mean?
It's my display of shock that the dude with the Xbox avatar who posted this yesterday:

Doom_Bringer said:
Picture this.

Halo 3 for PS3 NA Launch

Mistwalker RPG for PS3 JPN launch (if they can hype it)

Sony am crying :lol
is impressed with the Xbox.
 
VERY impressed. I mean how could you not be impressed with a first time console company that strolls along and knocks Nintendo off in the US? Not to mention all the fantastic exclusives and first party titles they've had this gen.

I'm getting more impressed every day. Especially after seeing just how committed they are to the Japanese market, having made a first party deal with Sakaguchi/MistWalker.
 
CVXFREAK said:
When it comes to the content on the Xbox, I'm impressed. When it comes to their success, not quite. They've lost too much money.

WAAAAH

Back in 2001 everyone was swearing that the Xbox would instantly flop. Now, the system is right up there with Sony in terms of consumer mindshare. The PS2/Xbox thing now is a lot like the SNES/Genesis battle back in the 16-bit days as those are the two big systems fighting for consumers' money. You see a majority of third party games being PS2/Xbox and next gen announcements have been just PS3/Xbox2 so far.

I'd say Microsoft has done an incredible job positioning the system for a "rookie".
 
I'm not impressed because I knew this would happen, and had been saying MS would be successful since before they launched. The only thing I don't like about the Xbox is how so much of it's library is just weaker versions of PC software, and how Xbox Live gets so much praise despite it being less than impressive in many respects, imo. Other than that, I think it's a great system, with some of the best racing and action games anywhere, and I buy just about all of my multiplatform console games on it. I just wish the focus would stop being so much on it being a miniature (or, well, not so miniature) PC.

Oh, and Halo 2 sucked rather sizeable cock.
 
I'm impressed with Xbox Live. They just need to secure some MMO content on their console next gen. I'm still curious to see Sony and Nintendo's answer to Live.
 
The only system to impress me this gen was the Dreamcast. Sega was against the ropes, and they fought back the best they could with a bunch of good and great games to hit the system in a short timespan, online right out of the box, and a nice starting price.
 
AniHawk said:
The only system to impress me this gen was the Dreamcast. Sega was against the ropes, and they fought back the best they could with a bunch of good and great games to hit the system in a short timespan, online right out of the box, and a nice starting price.
Winner.
 
ManaByte said:
WAAAAH

Back in 2001 everyone was swearing that the Xbox would instantly flop. Now, the system is right up there with Sony in terms of consumer mindshare. The PS2/Xbox thing now is a lot like the SNES/Genesis battle back in the 16-bit days as those are the two big systems fighting for consumers' money. You see a majority of third party games being PS2/Xbox and next gen announcements have been just PS3/Xbox2 so far.

I'd say Microsoft has done an incredible job positioning the system for a "rookie".

Looking at the entire picture, perhaps, but there is still some major holes in their strategy that has yet to be rectified. Consumer mindshare is one thing, if you can even gauge that appropriately, but it's not a total victory yet.

In the Genesis/SNES days, SNES was... what... 54 million and Genesis was 38 million worldwide? That's a pretty close race. In these days, PS2 is 80 million and rising super fast, and the Xbox is... what... 18/19 million? That's barely a quarter of what Sony has, so who has the most consumer mindshare is extremely debatable. It's even debatable that they're "right up there" yet.

This of course also overlooks that you can't really be on even footing if several major markets completely ignore you. It was fine for this generation, but the upward momentum can only be maintained if the world is on your side, not if only a few of the key markets like what you offer.

I'm being overly negative because I want to be level-headed about Microsoft's propositions. They excite me for a lot of reasons, and I love competition. But it has not been a perfect road and they still have to patch up a lot of things before I can 100% be impressed. I'm an American and I hate [most] anime and 95% of Japan-o RPGs, but even I can recognize that not having Japan (and other Asian countries) as well as Europe (compared to PS2) is a big, big hurdle.

Now to be positive, there's a lot of things no one can deny. Microsoft is the online console force to deal with. As online gaming becomes increasingly important to a tech-heavy world, they are in a prime position to capitalize on that investment. They've made huge strides in developer relations in the US and the XNA is the veritable top of the heap to work towards. They've proved they could market games to certain audiences with astounding success (Halo, Halo 2) and turn it into a near-cultural event (all they need to do is expand this to other markets with more than one major franchise). They provided a powerful system that is above the competition and they make it easy to create games for. And although no one can truthfully claim how much of an impact this Mistwalker announcement will have, it can only be seen at the very least as a huge extended hand to the Japanese market for another round of consoles.

That's my take. There's good, there's bad. I'm happy Microsoft is in the console world and I'm happy there's someone who might soon be able to go toe-to-toe with Sony. Let's bring on the next console generation :)
 
From a strategic management perspective I'm EXTREMELY impressed. Microsoft is playing the game very well. With only a few initial hickups, they have been able to consistently drive a fantastic agenda of connected gaming, developer friendliness, platform integration and portfolio management. They have learned in a very humble way of every single one of their mistakes and made a corrective action. I was a total Xbox hater for the first two years, but Live and all the must-have exclusive games started to weigh too much to be dismissed. Once I got in, I noticed that I had been missing a lot. Xbox is a fantastic experience, and the simplicity of Live usage is astounding.
Next generation should improve even further, with acceptable console design and multimedia feature integration, and now software for the Japanese perspective.

From a shareholder perspective, I'm NOT impressed. The Xbox project has cost already up to 5 billion, and the heating war will not help. The payback time of the investment is starting to approach infinity, so from a business perspective, the Xbox project does not with the current knowledge make sense - the big upside required isn't yet visible.

Competition is indeed great to the consumer. No more laggard products + great pricing.
 
drohne said:
they had me at halo.


same here. I also think XBL is one of the best thing to happen to gaming

Very impressed, i'll be there on day one to pick up Xbox 360. They made me a loyal fan
 
I am very impressed over the Mistwalker deal. MS is looking like a real contender next gen.

on board for xbox 2:

Mistwalker
Rare
Bioware
Bungie
etc
...


I am like Ramirez (or he was) a hardcore Nintendo fan, but this gen has been disappointing. Let's see what next gen brings.
 
I am impressed with their online strategy and how fast they were able to build the xbox name, but I am definetly not impressed with their choices on which games to publish and which ones to throw out. I really think that they should have kept Stranger, Psychonauts, and Phantom Dust. Whether they are commercial successes is not really important, but what is important is how other independent developers perceive Microsoft Game Studios and whether they feel like they are able to create their project there.
 
Chittagong said:
and there is a lot more. Nintendo fans crying, I guess.

Plz! Nintendo fans have plenty of things to look forward to! Lots of developers like what Nintendo has to offer and it can only go up from here!

I mean, look at the outspring of Revolution support! We have that...Camelot RPG...and... uhhhhhh... we know that it's....well on the other hand certainly EA...wait, no they haven't yet...




...ok, but Nintendo and Namco forever! *runs*
 
I'm very impressed. I traded a pair of jordans(shoes) for one back in jan 2002 (shoes costed me $105)...the dude hated it and wanted to buy a gamecube... so I made a trade.... very happy.
 
Ironclad_Ninja said:
I am impressed with their online strategy and how fast they were able to build the xbox name, but I am definetly not impressed with their choices on which games to publish and which ones to throw out. I really think that they should have kept Stranger, Psychonauts, and Phantom Dust. Whether they are commercial successes is not really important, but what is important is how other independent developers perceive Microsoft Game Studios and whether they feel like they are able to create their project there.
What independant developers? I bet by two years into the next gen, there will be none. They are right now being bought up left right and center. It's sad but true
 
krypt0nian said:
IMO won't make a dent in the juggernaut that is SONY.

It has to have at least made a dent, because marketshare is marketshare. Even as the market grows, that growing segment market could have been something Sony capitalized on more if Microsoft wasn't around. Even Gamecube made a "dent."
 
I'm impressed with what they did this gen. Along with the HD and online, they managed to get a lot of western style games that console players really hadn't been playing before the Xbox. People like to say that, besides MS 1st party offerings, you can get the same thing and more out of the PS2. But the truth is, the Xbox software offering is drastically different to both Gamecube AND PS2. As a person who generally feels that western games are much more ambitious and interesting than Japanese titles, that's a huge plus. The only thing that might keep me back from a Xenon is the uncertainty over backwards compatibility.
 
krypt0nian said:
IMO won't make a dent in the juggernaut that is SONY.
You do realize it all starts at zero come next round don't you? Tell that to the juggernauts that were Sega. Nintendo and Atari.
 
I can't say I had a lot of confidence in MS with Xbox, I bought it at launch because Sega seemed to be willing to support it fully (couldn't care less about Halo) and stayed because of Xbox Live.
MS made a lot of mistake with Xbox, especially the launch price in Europe, the overall design of the console, and of course lots of small or big things that helped kill the system in Japan.
But they also manage to create a now well perceived Xbox brand, quite an achievement considering how they were badly perceived by many people before the launch (but then most people were still using 98 or worse using Me at that time, so any MS hate was even more justified :p). They have proven that they are very seriously commited to the system, and MS is not known to make the same mistake twice. Next generation should be very interesting, this will be a true battle of exclusives titles and developers on both sides and I'm pretty sure the overall games quality will be up thanks to this.
Damn, I'm so hyped about next generation already. E3 can't come soon enough !
 
If by impressed you mean performing better than expected, then no, not impressed here. They haven't really done any better than the growth curve they've established with other markets they've applied themselves to which were outside of their core competencies.
 
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