GAF: Are you okay with the use of Generative AI in video game development?
STARSBarry
Gold Member
yes, but within reason. You cant have AI creating an entire game (I mean from a creative standpoint)
But using voice actors as long as they understand and are paid accordingly for further lines using AI is allowed for example. TF2 had one of its voice actors pass away, Rick May for the Soldier, that means its impossible to get any lines out of him, but had they set up and actioned a recording session specifically to help train an AI in his style prior to his death they could continue adding new lines in the trickle updates the game receives now.
I guess really I'm on the side of using AI when it benefits a game to do so. It will also allow smaller indie teams to do things they otherwise could never dream of due to limited skill or budget.
But using voice actors as long as they understand and are paid accordingly for further lines using AI is allowed for example. TF2 had one of its voice actors pass away, Rick May for the Soldier, that means its impossible to get any lines out of him, but had they set up and actioned a recording session specifically to help train an AI in his style prior to his death they could continue adding new lines in the trickle updates the game receives now.
I guess really I'm on the side of using AI when it benefits a game to do so. It will also allow smaller indie teams to do things they otherwise could never dream of due to limited skill or budget.
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icecold1983
Member
If it makes games better, yes.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
I don't get how, let's face it. most companies are all-in on AI and have been for a while (hence many layoffs). So why the hell does it take years, decades to release AAA sequels?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I'm fine if it's used to 'fill' out a big world. NPC's, World Textures, Folly Sounds,
If you have ever played a JRPG you are already fine with artificial speech in the form of warbling sounds while you read text bubbles (I call it gerbil speech).
Now you can have AI improve that with cuter speech or outright normal speech.
If you have ever played a JRPG you are already fine with artificial speech in the form of warbling sounds while you read text bubbles (I call it gerbil speech).
Now you can have AI improve that with cuter speech or outright normal speech.
Fbh
Member
Depends on how it gets used, though overall if the end product looks good, visually consistent and not like AI slop, then I don't really care.
Ideally I'd like to see it used for secondary elements, allowing the human artists to focus on the main aspects of the game. I don't really care if the toaster, microwave and coffee machine in kitchen of the abandoned house I'm exploring in a post apocalyptic game was modeled by AI, or of they have some system that can create unique but visually consistent foliage, or if a crowd of background NPCs were made with AI (which should also help reduce repeated models, which is still a thing in many games), etc
Ideally I'd like to see it used for secondary elements, allowing the human artists to focus on the main aspects of the game. I don't really care if the toaster, microwave and coffee machine in kitchen of the abandoned house I'm exploring in a post apocalyptic game was modeled by AI, or of they have some system that can create unique but visually consistent foliage, or if a crowd of background NPCs were made with AI (which should also help reduce repeated models, which is still a thing in many games), etc
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Yes, and everyone should be.
It's not about the tools. It's about how it's used. Everyone should be against lazy devs doing the bare minimum with the tools. But in good hands the results will be epic and ill massively reduce the cost of games development.
It's not about the tools. It's about how it's used. Everyone should be against lazy devs doing the bare minimum with the tools. But in good hands the results will be epic and ill massively reduce the cost of games development.
ZeroZeroQuatre
Member
Aenima
Member
From my experience with AI and games with AI, when AI is used as a tool it can improve the results of an artist, just like photoshop is a tool that can improve professional photos. But when its used to replace the artist work, it ends in AI slop.
So while i apreciate more something that has been crafted without AI, im not against the use of it when its well used.
So while i apreciate more something that has been crafted without AI, im not against the use of it when its well used.
PlayStaytion
Member
The AI here is the smooth criminal.
diffusionx
Gold Member
What dumbasses on this forum think happens with AI: Devs make better games and speed up development
What actually happens with AI: Biggest dev in the world releases a game annually (which they did before AI) and uses AI to make generic Ghibli art slop to sell to their retard fanbase
This is just unquestionably and objectively worse than what came before, when they were paying actual artists to make these.
What actually happens with AI: Biggest dev in the world releases a game annually (which they did before AI) and uses AI to make generic Ghibli art slop to sell to their retard fanbase
This is just unquestionably and objectively worse than what came before, when they were paying actual artists to make these.
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Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
That's the reality of the situation.
Whether someone is morally against Gen AI or whether they are okay with it, doesn't truly matter in the long run. Gen AI exists, devs are using it and its useful, and its important to keep in mind the Gen AI we have today is the worst it will ever be. Its only going to get better from here. In time its use will be commonplace, nearly every dev will use it. At that point anyone boycotting its use will have a very unpleasant time gaming as your choice of non-Gen AI games will be extremely limited.
Reminds me of the people who hated smart phones and wanted to keep their flip phones 10 years ago. You can still do that today if you want to, but man it isn't an easy nor pleasant choice.
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