Even if it's on GamePass day one, that is outweighed by the fact it's been taken away from those who don't have access to GP which is tons of people.Except when they are on Game Pass day one. Other than that i agree, they suck and i think they are a waste of money.
Can ark2 even run on a switch. Ark barely ram on Xbox one and PS4.Yes, and benefit no one, only takes away from others. No ones buying a console just for Ark2.
What about ff7 remake?Even if it's on GamePass day one, that is outweighed by the fact it's been taken away from those who don't have access to GP which is tons of people.
Except when they are on Game Pass day one. Other than that i agree, they suck and i think they are a waste of money.
i never seen anyone talking about Ark, and isnt the first one suckass? and it runs like ass?It's funny until you realize that Ark 1 comfortably outsold FF15.
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First party Microsoft exclusive is coming to Playstation confirmed.
Btw, Switch? LOL
I agree, it sucks and shouldn't exist. But at least some gamers can profit this way so it's not 100% useless like this shit used to be.Even if it's on GamePass day one, that is outweighed by the fact it's been taken away from those who don't have access to GP which is tons of people.
I know, Two Point Campus or Sniper Elite 5 for example. I never said they are related.A game can be on game pass day one and not be a timed exclusive. Those things aren't necessarily related
It's janky as fuck but it's still way more fun than most polished AAA gamesi never seen anyone talking about Ark, and isnt the first one suckass? and it runs like ass?
Same as Bioshock, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Ark 2...all welcome.
even the ones that cause games that would other wise not get produced to happen?Tweet of a random YouTube video of a screenshot lol.
Anyway any and all 3rd party exclusive deals are disgusting. Consumer doesn't benefit because little Johnny across the street can't play.
50k players on steam, constantly pimped on game pass, mind bogglingly frequently on switch top sellers digitally , performance wise, unstable 30 sub hd on xbone and ps4, I can live withbthat, switch port is something else, like doom 3 hacked to run on a voodoo 2 type badi never seen anyone talking about Ark, and isnt the first one suckass? and it runs like ass?
So now your fine with timed exclusives once I pointed out you had no problem with ff7r being exclusive?Same as Bioshock, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Ark 2...all welcome.
And he'll answer that you are fine with whole publisher being bought and the circle will be closed.Can't you guys just agree that timed exclusive a shitty no matter who does it except if otherwise the game wouldn't have been made ?So now your fine with timed exclusives once I pointed out you had no problem with ff7r being exclusive?
Edit: also Microsoft published mass effect until ea bought BioWare.
I suggest you actually read the entire conversation including the link I posted.And he'll answer that you are fine with whole publisher being bought and the circle will be closed.Can't you guys just agree that timed exclusive a shitty no matter who does it except if otherwise the game wouldn't have been made ?
And that 3rd party exclusives depending on how they're done can be shitty or good?And finally that this is not a x == good and y == bad it is a business and those are financial decisions, we are not arguing aout whose friend is right.
That was not about you but more about how it's the same discussions and arguments over and over, break the cycle with a goofy gif and move on...I suggest you actually read the entire conversation including the link I posted.
I’m calling him out for being hypocritical. I’m not taking sides in whether timed exclusives are good or bad.
Fine.That was not about you but more about how it's the same discussions and arguments over and over, break the cycle with a goofy gif and move on...
But I thought MS hated moneyhatting and didn't do it.
I would gladly play Ark over any final fantasy. But that is just me.
Because there was a time they didn't do that?You adapt to the opposition.
Rise of the Tomb Raider, right?You adapt to the opposition.
Because there was a time they didn't do that?
Yeah but he is planning 20 years in advance...Phil Spencer said this sort of thing was part of their long-term strategy. That was seven years ago.
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Sure has nothing to do with it coming to early access / Game preview, a Platform/Concept Sony for whatever reason simply doesnt support
Not Rogue Legacy 2, or Death's Door.Yes anythng that Xbox paid timed exclusive for will be a day 1 gamepass
You adapt to the opposition.
*You'reSo now your fine with timed exclusives once I pointed out you had no problem with ff7r being exclusive?
Edit: also Microsoft published mass effect until ea bought BioWare.
Exactly. You had no problem with a timed exclusive until you did. Just happened to be for Xbox instead of Sony. I’m not arguing whether the practice is right or wrong.*You're
No, I simply said FF7 was a welcome addition to the Playstation line-up. Which it is.
Forgot Alan Wake too, that was another I got on PC. Stalker 2 and Warhammer Darktide likely the same.
Not Rogue Legacy 2, or Death's Door.
I would gladly play Ark over any final fantasy. But that is just me.
I am quite looking forward to Ark 2
That's interesting, thank you. I actually thought that was the reason why Arma: Reforger isn't on PS4/PS5 yet, too. MS sure as hell didn't pay for that one.
I don't know about Death's Door, but MS didn't pay for Rogue Legacy. Sometimes the answer is quite simple:
Perfect for meIt's only fair, PS folks get FFXVI while Xbox gets Ark 2.
What am I missing here? It doesn't say they didn't accept some deal.
Not necessarily. Death's Door was an Xbox money-hatted timed exclusive that did not launch on Gamepass day one.Yes anythng that Xbox paid timed exclusive for will be a day 1 gamepass
Yes, and benefit no one, only takes away from others. No ones buying a console just for Ark2.
Well imo buying a studio and bringing them into the fold, paying for development, paying the employees salaries, health benefits etc is much different than just sending a lump sum of money to a third party to keep the game off of another platform. If Sony made bungie exclusive I'd get it. Your paying for everything. Vs if they went to EA to make Apex 2 exclusive to keep it off other consoles.While I agree with you, weren't you among those cheering for MS buying Bethesda.
How is that better?
Well imo buying a studio and bringing them into the fold, paying for development, paying the employees salaries, health benefits etc is much different than just sending a lump sum of money to a third party to keep the game off of another platform. If Sony made bungie exclusive I'd get it. Your paying for everything. Vs if they went to EA to make Apex 2 exclusive to keep it off other consoles.
No, because being acquired (often) gives a level of safety that being independent doesn't. Theres a big difference from trying to keep the lights on with each game you make vs soely focusing on game development only and letting the executives at your new firm worry about the details. I get what you saying if you looking at both in a vaccum. Games on one console. But in actuality both are achieved through very different means. One requires more risk than the other if you buy the studio outright.Whether it's MS paying the bills for Bethesda's studios to keep the lights on or not is irrelevant.
In both cases, the only benefit is to the first party. Xbox gamers would have played Bethesda games anyway. So MS paid to keep the games off the other platform.
You claim a difference, but functionally it's the same thing.
If anything, timed exclusivity is better for the gamers on the non-exclusive platform since the game's exclusivity window is time-limited.
Your logical inconsistency is pretty apparent here.