couscous is like rice but somehow even more boring, screw that noise.
Arnold Schwarzenegger and James Cameron for "less meat, less heat"
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couscous is like rice but somehow even more boring, screw that noise.
alife
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What sort of carbs?
With food though there are many things that are not necessary.
We could all drink Soylent, for example. People like the taste of red meat and that's why they eat it. I don't think a lot of people eat it reluctantly thinking that it's healthy for them. You can argue that it's selfish or destructive for them to do so, but whether it's necessary or not seems somewhat irrelevant.
Robot Pants
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right cause he got that big which led to his fame without eating a shit ton of meat.
sure thing, pal
sure thing, pal
Why? Genuine question
andythinkpad
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carbohydrates are what get you fat, not fat.
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Crickets have almost no nutritional value and their exoskeletons are full of sodium. You can't even feed them to frogs without vitamin supplements because they're such an incomplete meal. You can't even feed frogs mealworms either because of the high saturated fat content, you might as well be eating deepfried cheese curds. It fucks up their liver and is super bad for humans too.
Bugs are bad for you. Each one has more bad stuff than good stuff and you have to eat so fucking many to get any protein at all that you get net negative benefits.
Arnold dissing milk honestly makes me think less of him.
It amazes me how many "character pigs out comically" scenes anime does and yet not a single one of them are funny. It's like they're done more out of obligation because that's what's expected in anime. To me it's almost more subversive to see characters eating normally in an anime.
I need it soz bro.
but my fajitas :'(
What a beautiful gif. =')
Trojita
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but my fajitas :'(
New meat keeps on being generated per cut. What is this sorcery!?
This analogy is fantastic. Two groups who are rooted in their ways. It reminds of self proclaimed "activists" who still wear leather or clothing obviously made in sweatshops. The negatives are there, but NOPE they love that red meat.
tearsintherain
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man i love arnold and I want to listen to him but I love meat too 
Maybe if I only eat steaks while watching an Arnie movie or something
There are a lot of fucked up things around the stuff we eat, like how most animals are raised and I'm pretty sure 100 years from now our descendants will think very poorly of us for the way we ate. I do notice as I get older my taste buds aren't as strong anymore, already my meat consumption is probably down 20-30% from a decade ago and I'm sure it'll drop even more as I eat less. Biggest thing for me was cutting out junk food, rarely eat sweets or chips/etc anymore.
Maybe if I only eat steaks while watching an Arnie movie or somethingThere are a lot of fucked up things around the stuff we eat, like how most animals are raised and I'm pretty sure 100 years from now our descendants will think very poorly of us for the way we ate. I do notice as I get older my taste buds aren't as strong anymore, already my meat consumption is probably down 20-30% from a decade ago and I'm sure it'll drop even more as I eat less. Biggest thing for me was cutting out junk food, rarely eat sweets or chips/etc anymore.
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Why does "meat" = "red meat"? Also why do you have to completely stop doing something because it has negative benefits if you do way too much of it?
BladeoftheImmortal
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We should all definitely be cutting back on it, at least.
I only eat meat once per day, and it's usually chicken.
I only eat meat once per day, and it's usually chicken.
Warm Machine
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Arnold Schwarzenegger: Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer.
PeskyToaster
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First my guns now my meat? Do Crooked Hillary and the LIEberals want everyone to be as miserable as them?
oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
People keep reacting as if some study confirms that meat consumption is bad for your body and I don't think that's the message. The message (in line with "cowspiracy" for those interested) is that our meat cultivation for consumption has a MASSIVE effect on our environment. It's an aspect always overlooked by save the earth organisations, largely I believe because they know that it's a battle that won't be won anytime soon. I personally am a meat eater and don't have any intentions of stopping, but cutting back is certainly a possibility.
Jean Valjean
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No.
I can't live without red meat.
I can't live without red meat.
triplestation
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im for this, i believe in eating meat sparingly
PhoncipleBone
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But Arnold is a Republican...
I'd like to see a PETA video showing me cute fishes dying or being taken away from their mothers.
Nothing wrong with fish. Its meat that people consume way too much.
SubScorpianZero
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Arnold's invested in the protein business, of course he'd be for people eating less meat.
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Fish is arguably the worst for the environment and can be bad for you because of mercury and the like. The good news is that fish is probably the most ethical to eat because they're so stupid. But then there's the environmental impact again which makes it less ethical.
But if you eat octopus/squid you're a monster.
Hasn't he always been pretty big on reducing our environmental impact and stuff? Eating less meat goes towards that goal too.
evilromero
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I don't think you understand the point of reducing how much meat we eat in this case.
CheDominik
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Only once per day? Sorry but that made me chuckle.
Meat consumption is way too high in first world countries and it's way too cheap to actually raise livestock in an "ethical" way, but I can't see this changing anytime soon unfortunately.
Just eat a lot of salmon if you're so concerned about mercury for some reason. Perfect fish for that since it is so low in content.
I buy a lot of chicken these days also, I tend to stick to that over red meat.
Imperfected
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but my fajitas :'(
You're dogs. No one expects you to stop eating meat!
When I was five years old, I wanted to be a t-rex when I grew up. You can't make me give up on my dreams, Arnold. Nothing will stop me from eating all the world's greatest predators.
Well, to be honest dogs can survive on diets that don't contain meat (as opposed to cats who'll just die). They are not purely carnivorous.
Davey Cakes
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Kind of sick of feeling like an asshole for enjoying some chicken, turkey, and pork here and there.
Not to be stubborn but I already limit my red meat and fish intake. I enjoy meat. It's flavorful and satisfying. It probably does factor into my diet once a day on average. Is it skippable? Absolutely, but I still enjoy it. And, if I don't buy and eat it then those animals are being slaughtered for nothing.
Call me when wide, sweeping change is upon us because until then, I'm participating in meat eating. Not going to let the people who need their daily McDoubles ruin it for the rest of us.
Not to be stubborn but I already limit my red meat and fish intake. I enjoy meat. It's flavorful and satisfying. It probably does factor into my diet once a day on average. Is it skippable? Absolutely, but I still enjoy it. And, if I don't buy and eat it then those animals are being slaughtered for nothing.
Call me when wide, sweeping change is upon us because until then, I'm participating in meat eating. Not going to let the people who need their daily McDoubles ruin it for the rest of us.
Huh, by buying you're creating more demand which will lead to more animals being slaughtered.
Like, you can eat meat if you want but that's a pretty bad rationalisation.
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Davey Cakes
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I know it's a bad rationalization but it's...unavoidable.
You abstain completely then you're risking the meat going to waste, moral high ground aside.
You participate, it creates demand which only perpetuates the problem. Best you can do is wait for heavily discounted meat that will go bad the day after you buy (so that you know you're saving a piece of meat from the garbage bin).
That's why I don't have an issue buying modest amounts of meat. Might as well just settle in the middle until society is ready to make some big shift away from meat. I mean, bring it on, but until then I just can't justify MORE restrictions than I already put on myself.
As a singular person it's just one of those unwinnable things.
Every time people talk about climate change (not here specifically, everywhere) it's all "oh my god this is terrible we have to fix this, but what can I do??"
And then every time someone points out that probably the biggest thing you can personally do is to cut your meat consumption from factory farming as close to zero as possible, the same people are immediately like "zomg I eat 3 burgers a day with bacon on the side and I'll never stop roflcopter!!!"
It actually is basically the same thing as the NRA now that I think about it. Thoughts and prayers, but if anyone asks for a personal sacrifice to actually address the problem, fuck off, you'll get my [gun/steak] from my cold dead hands.
So...we'll continue to be fucked lol.
I'm not a vegetarian myself btw, because meat is delicious and variety is important, but I don't eat meat every single day and if you ignore chicken I could easily cut beef and pork out entirely, I have that maybe once a week. I genuinely prefer tofu to most meats tbh.
And then every time someone points out that probably the biggest thing you can personally do is to cut your meat consumption from factory farming as close to zero as possible, the same people are immediately like "zomg I eat 3 burgers a day with bacon on the side and I'll never stop roflcopter!!!"
It actually is basically the same thing as the NRA now that I think about it. Thoughts and prayers, but if anyone asks for a personal sacrifice to actually address the problem, fuck off, you'll get my [gun/steak] from my cold dead hands.
So...we'll continue to be fucked lol.
I'm not a vegetarian myself btw, because meat is delicious and variety is important, but I don't eat meat every single day and if you ignore chicken I could easily cut beef and pork out entirely, I have that maybe once a week. I genuinely prefer tofu to most meats tbh.
Davey Cakes
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If I had to sacrifice most of the meat in my diet, I'd be willing to increase my tofu intake. That stuff is great.
When I say I love tofu, people always give me a weird look.
Feel kind if weird for enjoying fake meat and other vegetable protein products as well. Not sure why. Being alternative like that makes me feel like I stand out.
At the very least I'm already somewhat prepped for any moment where real meat would need to be dropped 100%. Part of the problem or not, I've already taken steps to reduce overall intake as I've naturally moved towards meat alternatives and delicious vegetables anyway. But yeah, I don't see myself cutting chicken, turkey, pork, and even lamb out entirely until a massive systemic change is upon us.
When I say I love tofu, people always give me a weird look.
Feel kind if weird for enjoying fake meat and other vegetable protein products as well. Not sure why. Being alternative like that makes me feel like I stand out.
At the very least I'm already somewhat prepped for any moment where real meat would need to be dropped 100%. Part of the problem or not, I've already taken steps to reduce overall intake as I've naturally moved towards meat alternatives and delicious vegetables anyway. But yeah, I don't see myself cutting chicken, turkey, pork, and even lamb out entirely until a massive systemic change is upon us.
Imperfected
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Ridiculous.
... there's no way the meat will still be in my hands. You'll have to pry it from my cold, seized bowels. And good luck... they're likely to be impacted from eating too much meat!
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Otakumegane
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I vastly prefer eating pork and chicken.
How much less do they contribute in comparison?
How much less do they contribute in comparison?
Trojita
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I'm a dog and I don't eat that shit.
Looks like pork has a little under half the carbon footprint of beef, and chicken about a fourth. Lamb appears to be even worse than beef, surprisingly.
http://www.greeneatz.com/foods-carbon-footprint.html
Lord Fagan
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Sure thing, eighties action icons.
I'll give up meat forever for the good of the planet when you two give up private jet use, forever.
I'll give up meat forever for the good of the planet when you two give up private jet use, forever.
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