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ARROW Season 2 |OT| Back in a Flash
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I'm good with that
Wiktor
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See..that's how convoluted the explanations need to get to justify it. He doesn't have any kind of communicator, he's fighting villains every single hour of every single day, or at the very least he's fighting them precisely in the exact moments Oliver would need to call. And what's more there's can be no threat that's known many hours or even days before it happens, because that would make the whole excuse fall apart.
Smash him in the head with a pipe? Shoot him in knee caps? It's not like Grundy would be able to ever catch him anyway.
Also..team knowledge? He's a CSI nerd. Basically Felicity with superpowers. With Batman it's at least it's explained that he's a genius and can outhink heroes like Flash of Superman. Hence he's still usefull. Can't say the same about Oliver.
No, I'm not nitpicking. I just don't accept the "screw logic, it's superhero story". Arrow so far has been very good in keeping the story as logical as possible giving it's genre. Far more than Nolan managed to. So I will be very dissapointed if they make Oliver mysteriously forget Flash's existence whenever it will be convenient for the writers.
As a whole I think introduction of Flash will cheapen the whole universe, but I can live with that if they writers will go along with it, instead of acting like nothing really happened for most episodes. I need to see justifications why Flash isn't involved in next threat of huge proportions and they need to be good ones
Jest Chillin
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He doesn't need to be busy every hour of every day. At any given moment of any given day he can be busy. Can't depend on Flash to always be there. That's the point.
Flash still doesn't have increased strength so how damaging is that pipe when wielded by a 145lbs CSI tech? And Flash uses guns now? Grundy wouldn't need to catch Flash, just defend the bomb so Flash can't disarm it. Not to mention, it's a bomb, so unless Flash has bomb disarming knowledge.... And he's not Felicity with super speed. Felicity is a tech wizard. Barry's knowledge covers Forensics and he seems to have a pretty decent detective mind. Their skill sets don't overlap in any major way. He also still lacks the knowledge of Ollie and Diggle in terms of combat and tactics.
No, you're being selectively nitpicky. Especially when you just suggested that Flash should use a gun while it's perfectly acceptable to you that Arrow doesn't choose to use one facing the same villain.
I mean re-read this debate as it's unfolded in the thread. It's the epitome of the stereotypical comic "geeks" arguing over which hero is more powerful. And these types of debates only occur when people are selectively nitpicking. The world is the world and it operates on it's own rules.
Trying to posit that Flash makes Arrow obsolete doesn't work simply because the rules of the world already mean that it doesn't. Accept it or don't but don't selectively choose.
Don't think it's even been confirmed that he'll appear.
There's more than enough time for Angel to call Buffy and have her arrive before the events at the end of season five, as well as the fact that after the events of Buffy season seven there are literally hundreds of slayers.
The Doctor didn't stop the bombing of Cardiff at the end of the second season of Torchwood, nor did he stop the events of Children of Earth or (shudder) Miracle Day, and this is a character who can be everywhere at once.
You are nitpicking, Flash is off doing his own thing. There, that's all the justification you need. Flash isn't omnipresent, nor is he clairvoyant or telepathic. I'm pretty sure he'll be dealing with threats of huge proportions of his own.
Cornballer
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From the New York Times:
- A Fanboy Shows Superheroes the Way: With Arrow, Greg Berlanti Finds a Formula for Success
- A Fanboy Shows Superheroes the Way: With Arrow, Greg Berlanti Finds a Formula for Success
Sir_Crocodile
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Cornballer
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I got a good laugh out of that one, too.
BurnOutBrighter
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Just have Barry get hit on the head in this week's episode and forget he met Arrow. Then he can walk into the particle accelerator and become the super powered saviour of his own city without having to worry about crossover logic.
lol
lol
You are now entering the period of "Tommy turmoil". Prepare yourself for few romantic swerves and epic last few episodes.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
So I was just watching Taken for the first time in years and discovered that Laurel is one of the girls that gets kidnapped. Liam Neeson is on the hunt to get his daughter back and naturally gives no fucks about Laurel. Just like everybody else it seems.
BurnOutBrighter
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I'm still trying to figure out how they did it. I think Arrow would be strapped to the door before falling out. There's no way you'd be able to stay on it otherwise.
Having the door scrape the ground is simple if you just drag it with cables and then digitally remove them. But still looks cool as hell.
Razgriz-Specter
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Good God if Nightwing does turn up and that rumor of
Cain
this could actually be the best Batman series ever and Batman doesn't even appear once.
I am thinking either green screen or setting it up with a special ramp on that side where the door lands, then some quick editing for the landing on the road and the slide.
Freeza Under The Shower
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yay! @ gif usage.
cringe @ baricity.
Great dresses for the female cast though. Oh, and that 'blur' Barry mentions is a direct reference to
the anti-flash
I am thinking either green screen or setting it up with a special ramp on that side where the door lands, then some quick editing for the landing on the road and the slide.
Maybe they're doing it for reals.
Amell is a daredevil. Does his own stunts.
They are already planting the seeds for being able to a flashpoint miniseries and relaunch their TV DCU when it starts getting stale.
Plasticine
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My guess is:
Inside the truck is a green screen. The door was probably added in post.
The fall with the door is likely sped up in post. The "door" is likely a pad.
The slide on the door is a stuntman riding on a door rigged with skateboard wheels, likely on a track and being pulled. The sparks are added post, and the cable is removed.
Razgriz-Specter
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Just started wondering about this,
if Nightwing does show up how in the world are they going to do his costume on their budget?
they just can't do a leather bodysuit for him like Ollie, Huntress and Canary
motocross gear is the only thing I could picture.
if Nightwing does show up how in the world are they going to do his costume on their budget?
they just can't do a leather bodysuit for him like Ollie, Huntress and Canary
motocross gear is the only thing I could picture.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Body armor that's Tron-esque?
Gotta be some sort of flexible body armor. The Flash needs a Tron-esque suit.
BurnOutBrighter
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Found a bunch of season 1 promo pics I hadn't seen until now
http://media-addict.hu/2013/06/05/arrow-tavaszi-promocios-fotok/
More in the link.
http://media-addict.hu/2013/06/05/arrow-tavaszi-promocios-fotok/
More in the link.
a secret-boss
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Finally saw last week's episode. Got introduction of super strength without being phony powers. I like the stunts in the warehouse fight scenes
PS: felicty looks hawt in the party scene
PS: felicty looks hawt in the party scene
I hope it's nothing similar to the 90s Flash suit.
That looked terrible.
BurnOutBrighter
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Nevermind adding the sparks, just put a couple sparklers underneath it before you drag it, way cheaper
Wiktor
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Found a bunch of season 1 promo pics I hadn't seen until now
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Ahh..just think about it, if Oliver would only aim few centimeers to the left there would be no Laurel problem.
Razgriz-Specter
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Flash's costume shouldn't be a problem, it would be a costume for potentially a main character of a series
and would appear in every single episode and maybe multiple seasons.
the high one time cost should be worth it if the show doesn't tank.
Nightwing's on the other hand, won't have any kind of decent budget on that costume.
rubber suits, tron suits etc are too expensive for a few episode support character
only two options I see for him are
1. some kinda armor(shin & forearm guards, chest) bashed together
2. try to salvage a Robin costume from B&R(worked for Batgirl on Birds of Prey)
Cornballer
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- Onion A|V Club with a long look at S2 so far: Arrow became great by emphasizing characters above all else
The lack of follow up on her character in Taken is perhaps my biggest issue with that movie. I love it but that part is a huge oversight.
Wiktor
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What do you mean lack of follow up? He found her dead and just moved on.
I kind of liked it and it was in character. Neeson didn't give a fuck about justice or other innocent people. He just wanted to get his daughter back. If he would be forced to kill that friend he would do it without blinking. He did put a bullet in that poor wife after all.
Cornballer
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- EW with a sneak peek at tomorrow's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Oliver must be thinking "Next time i put an arrow in each knee and see if that work"
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
World's fastest cripple.
Roy plz.
I'm really nervous about how they are going to handle super speed. They made the super strength cool, but speed is an entirely different matter. If they do it the way Man of Steel did it, then I'll be happy.
I love reading about Arrow. This show is one of those shows where it might not be one of the best, but its one of the most entertaining.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Awesome
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
BurnOutBrighter
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This is what I like the most, that the island flashbacks have a relationship to the present, which increases the importance of both. You could watch season 1 and tune out during the flashbacks, and your experience of the present day story wouldn't change.
In season 2 it's all tied together and the storylines rely on each other to get the most out of them. I hope they keep doing this for future seasons, although it is going to be uncanny when every major villain that appears in Starling City has some far-fetched connection to Oliver's history.
Speaking of which, it would be really interesting to see what the show would be like if it were edited into chronological order.
Cornballer
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- Collider Interview: Susanna Thompson Talks ARROW, Learning More about Moira in Season Two, Her Feelings about the Undertaking, and More
- DC All Access Video: Ep 9 - Arrow's Grant Gustin, Justice League 3000 and ComicBookGirl19 (Guster interview is at about the 3:30 mark)
- DC All Access Video: Ep 9 - Arrow's Grant Gustin, Justice League 3000 and ComicBookGirl19 (Guster interview is at about the 3:30 mark)
I approve of Barry Allen's casting. The guy lacks physical strength but his mental capacity is astonishing.
Also, nice referenceto the chem bath that turns him into the flash
My grin came when
they referenced Zoom.
Sorta Maximus
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The flash doesn't need superstrength he can create a tornado from his little finger and momentum has its own punch.
hnnnnnnnng
NotTheGuyYouKill
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