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Assassin's Creed Shadows: Extended Gameplay Walkthrough | Ubisoft Forward 2024
Aion002
Member
And that's why it's believable. Tsushima is a small island closer to Korea than to Japan, the Shogun probably didn't care much about it and the clans of Tsushima were probably way less war focused than everywhere else.
I like the idea that the Shimura clan and the other Tsushima clans were just naive and used only to fight bandits, so the concept of doing whatever they can to win, for them, was unthinkable.
Tsushima mattered so little to the Kamakura shogunate that they only cared to send their army 6 years after the invasion.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Not being experienced is different from being literal morons that lose their land and life to save the honor, sorry it's just hard to buy.
Even the videogame clearly depict the uncle like a naive moron at the end of the day.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's not unheard of. Even in modern times, look at Ghandhi. Could have stopped being a pacifist and defend his people, but instead, gave up the guns to those who mowed them down.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Gandhi was a pacifist, samurai were not pacifists, even in the game they try to fuck up the mongols so it's a false equivalence.
I can accept the plot because they try to copycat old samurai movies but i can't avoid to cringe every time uncle honor open his fucking mouth
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If you have an isolated belief structure.Gandhi was a pacifist, samurai were not pacifists, even in the game they try to fuck up the mongols so it's a false equivalence.
I can accept the plot because they try to copycat old samurai movies but i can't avoid to cringe every time uncle honor open his fucking mouth
Maybe the mainland shogun thought, "let's leave those crazy hyper Buddhist samurai to their own little island."
"Bunch of kukus."
Braag
Member
It's odd because during 360/PS3 era Ubisoft was at the top of the game when it came to animations. I think Unity was last game where they had really smooth and seamless animations.
The_Observer
Member
Doesn’t matter if it was realistic or not, at least it had a positive message and morals instead of the insane evil (yes what is behind this insanity is pure evil) shit most of AAA games are filled nowadays, AC Shadows among them.Gandhi was a pacifist, samurai were not pacifists, even in the game they try to fuck up the mongols so it's a false equivalence.
I can accept the plot because they try to copycat old samurai movies but i can't avoid to cringe every time uncle honor open his fucking mouth
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
Watched the Extended Gameplay - same junk animations and primitive mission structure of so many AC games in the past.
Kid calls you, walks back to quest giver that is….5 meters away.
Black samurai…no worries, after all he is “a samurai from a strange land”, perfectly normal thing.
You fight, kill two baddies, another two join the fight right after you killed their camerades. Why only then? Mystery.
Kid calls you, walks back to quest giver that is….5 meters away.
Black samurai…no worries, after all he is “a samurai from a strange land”, perfectly normal thing.
You fight, kill two baddies, another two join the fight right after you killed their camerades. Why only then? Mystery.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
IDK why, but this sentence gave me a good chuckle.
DavidGzz
Member
I did that every time in Valhalla as the viking. Full frontal combat. And with the ability to run through doorways and throw little guys around and beheadings as a cherry on top, this is going to be a blast! If I feel like stealthing, I'll choose the girl. I'll most likely end up in a huge melee with her as well though lol
GymWolf
Gold Member
Her combat looks more fun than yosuke combat so i'm probably gonna pick her most of the times.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
You know the reason why - because market research showed a large portion of gamers will refuse to play a game when the only character available is a woman (unless she is sexualized).
Trilobit
Gold Member
Yeah, that was weird. Is that how the developers view all black culture? He came from medieval Mozambicque and they put a hiphop beat on him?!
Kurotri
Member
Honestly, and this is just pure conjuncture on my part, I think it's just a bad coincidence. From what I've heard so far the soundtrack in general seems to be a lot more "modern" than the traditional soundtrack one might expect, and that particular soundtrack just seems to be the default combat theme that plays when you have a boss battle. It would probably have played as well if Naoe was fighting instead of Yasuke. Not trying to defend them and I think the reaction is honestly funny and deserved, but I don't think they had this particular intention of "we have a black guy so we need hip-hop music!" so it's less that and probably more "they have a shitty soundtrack that doesn't fit the setting".
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"Cultural sensitivities for modern audiences." Or some bigoted grift like that.
NightmareFarm
Member
I've always wondered when Japan would get it's own Assassins Creed game. Pretty cool that it's actually happening in 2024.
Gambit2483
Member
If there's one thing Ubisoft has always been good at, it's crafting beautiful and interesting open worlds. This game seems to continue that trend at least.
GHG
Gold Member
Lol is the quota in the room with us right now?
Its one black dude. You'll be alright.
Oh be quiet, and I mean that in the kindest way possible.
Believe me when I tell you it's not up to you to tell me when I should and shouldn't be ok with a black character appearing in a videogame.
Toons
Member
Looks pretty badass to me. The system of holding form to time for openings actually is really neat. The two forms of gameplay should offer plenty of variety and choice for the players.
Shame that culture war is taking precedent of the majority of reactions here. We need more our of the box stuff like this, and assassins creed could certainly use it. Otherwise its at risk of its own core premise becoming stale.
Shame that culture war is taking precedent of the majority of reactions here. We need more our of the box stuff like this, and assassins creed could certainly use it. Otherwise its at risk of its own core premise becoming stale.
GHG
Gold Member
First of all this isn't about the whole series, it's this game we are talking about.
It's glaringly obvious that they wanted to attempt to cover all bases with this game from a DEI perspective, both in terms of the tone and in terms of how they have gone about marketing this so far. It's a box ticking exercise (hence the "quota" jibe), one female lead and one minority lead.
No fucks given to the setting, no fucks given to history and no fucks given to whether or not it will be appropriate from a tonal perspective (if them playing hip hop beats only while the black character was on screen doesn't give it away then I don't know what will).
And no, I don't have to be ok with crap like this, because this is certainly not how I want to be represented in any modern day media and it doesn't do myself or any other black people any favours. Shame on you.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Toons
Member
It doesn't apply to this game either.
They arent covering all bases. They're just making a cool game about a pseudo legendary historical figure and an OC, the same thing they've done with every AC game up to this point. It doesn't magically become DEI just because the character in this case is black.
I didnt here any hip hop beats, but hip hop beats aren't exclusive to black people and haven't been for a while. The Japanese love hip hop beats and out them in their own anime and video games.
As for the setting, that has always been nothing more than a backdrop to do cool video game stuff. No different than what they've been doing.
Im black, and getting to play as a legendary figure in feudal Japan sounds cool af to me. You dont have to be ok with it; but trust me you don't represent all black people. Or the Japanese, who also lovd using Yasuke and helped developing hip hop influenced beats for their works:
And I could go back further
I have nothing to be ashamed of. Yasuke is not a modern thing, his usage in entertainment isn't new. You decrying a single black characters presence as a diversity quota though? Boxing in a hip hop beat as being some black people only thing? Maybe you should reevaluate some of those things and peer into how the Japanese approach the same things.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
Toons
Member
I bet you're not even a real doctor!!!
GHG
Gold Member
They clearly are.
Assassin's Creed Shadows LGBTQ romance options slammed by fans
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It was present in the livestream:
16th century Japan, hip hop beats, pick one.
The way this "legendary figure" is being depicted here isn't accurate in the slightest, but no doubt you've clearly been indoctrinated by your surroundings so you'll just go along with "representation good" like an obedient NPC regardless of how off the mark all of this is.
Considering your stance on all of this, you certainly do. You're failing to recognise when you're being pandered to in the worst kind of way, and worse still, you're refusing to appropriately analyse the approach they've taken from an inclusion standpoint.
Please explain to me how hip hop beats are supposed to fuse with 16th century feudal Japan and why was that kind of music only present when the black character was on screen? What does all of that tell you?
If you look at the question I was responding to "diversity quota" is very much the appropriate response. There's a right way for representation to be done, and a wrong one. Unfortunately this is very much in the camp of the latter.
There are also plenty of relevant and appropriate opportunities for black representation in media, but again, this isn't one of them.
But hey, maybe we should have had an innacurate shoehorned plot about a non-African native in AC Origins instead of Bayek's tale.
The gameplay reveal made it a "black person only" thing, not me.
Yeh, done the evaluation and Japanese people aren't too happy either. This is (clearly) not being made by Japanese people either. At least Mr woke-mc-wokeson over here is happy though.
genesisblock
Member
This game does make it look like it was designed by "non-Japanese eyes".
Hawking Radiation
Member
All i know is Ghost of Tsushima 2 is going to wipe the floor with this
Lokaum D+
Member
Imagine doing a japanese AC and choosing a dude that is only relevant for the color of his skin instead of Miyamoto Mushashi, what a disgrace of a game for japanese ppl (and AC fans ) that are waiting years for a AC Japan just to play as a randon black dude that was someones servant.
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rhodesianshepard
Banned
Were you saying the same thing about Nioh, or you just made because it's a black person?
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
They should have just gone with Naoe. Ubisoft is deathly afraid of a mainline AC game starring only a woman.
Lokaum D+
Member
Imo both are bad choices, but since you are trying to label me as a racist, lets compare this two historical figures.
Willian Adans was historically ADVISOR of Tokugawa, the first English to sail to Japan, he directed the construction of the first Western-style ships in Japan, also was later part of Japan's approving the establishment of trading factories by the Netherlands. He became highly involved in Japan's red seal trade, chartering and serving as captain of four expeditions to Southeast Asia and He was recognized as one of the most influential foreigners in Japan during early 17th century.
Yasuke was Nobunaga retainer, he had 0 influence in Japan history, He did accompanied Nobunaga through his military campaign, after Nobunaga death Yasuke returned to Jesuits and thats it.
Now ask me, who i think make more sense to be a main character in a Japanese game that portraits "Japanese historical events" ?
AND Yasuke is present in Nioh games, in Nioh 2 you have a quest to fight him and apparently he is fighting to entertain Nobunaga, in the game we can see Nobunaga watching the fight from the background.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Maybe, maybe not.
This game already has a shit ton of features beyond Ghost.
Like the stealth abilities, many of which are not in Ghost, like ability to swim in water and do kill from there, turning off lights to be in the darkness, even knocking out enemies like the civilians you saw.
Same with the seasons, clearly that isn't in Ghost.
So Ghost Of Tsushima 2 if anything has a lot to add on to for them to compete with this. I don't know if I'd be so quick to say "wipe the floor", AC Shadows with just a bit of the gameplay information already has a lot that Ghost doesn't have.
I'll buy both regardless, but I don't know if anyone should be so quick to dismiss this game.
bender
What time is it?
genesisblock
Member
This is odd. If anything the media is most likely going to rate it above average just because. It has all the checkboxes: boss female, token black character, asian setting for them to exploit, etc.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They clearly are.
Assassin's Creed Shadows LGBTQ romance options slammed by fans
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It was present in the livestream:
16th century Japan, hip hop beats, pick one.
The way this "legendary figure" is being depicted here isn't accurate in the slightest, but no doubt you've clearly been indoctrinated by your surroundings so you'll just go along with "representation good" like an obedient NPC regardless of how off the mark all of this is.
Considering your stance on all of this, you certainly do. You're failing to recognise when you're being pandered to in the worst kind of way, and worse still, you're refusing to appropriately analyse the approach they've taken from an inclusion standpoint.
Please explain to me how hip hop beats are supposed to fuse with 16th century feudal Japan and why was that kind of music only present when the black character was on screen? What does all of that tell you?
If you look at the question I was responding to "diversity quota" is very much the appropriate response. There's a right way for representation to be done, and a wrong one. Unfortunately this is very much in the camp of the latter.
There are also plenty of relevant and appropriate opportunities for black representation in media, but again, this isn't one of them.
But hey, maybe we should have had an innacurate shoehorned plot about a non-African native in AC Origins instead of Bayek's tale.
The gameplay reveal made it a "black person only" thing, not me.
Yeh, done the evaluation and Japanese people aren't too happy either. This is (clearly) not being made by Japanese people either. At least Mr woke-mc-wokeson over here is happy though.
Hip-hop beats for a medieval African.
Totes "cultural sensitivities for modern audiences."
Tone deaf retards. All them grifters.
DavidGzz
Member
It's so funny. People hating cause of the Yasuke and the fact that it's Ubi. Show the shinobi gameplay and say From Software made it and they'd be like, "finally a new Tenchu, looks so good!" And agreed, I'll buy both. You can play more than one game, just because another is better doesn't make another not worth playing.
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Randall365
Member
It’s a buy for me as long as they play ‘Where da hood at’ when he’s smashing up Japanese shit (editing out the homophobic bit). Bonus points if the baddies are running at him screaming ‘waaahhhhhhh’ all the time.
BaneIsPain
Member
The attention of details will be spectacular for japanese audience.
genesisblock
Member
Yeah, no. Anybody can look at this jank of a gameplay and realized this is no From Software game.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
All the consulting budget was spent on DEI, no money left to hire a Japanese history scholar. Although probably someone would have responded and helped them for free.
The attention of details will be spectacular for japanese audience.