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At least 4 dead, dozens injured after stage collapse at Indiana State Fair (video)

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3rdman

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Sean said:
That looked like a really poorly constructed stage. Surely they should've at least secured that structure with lots of heavy sandbags or something to prevent it from tipping over?
Sandbags wouldn't do shit...if what someone else mentioned, that there were no guy-wires attached to the structure, then that is a severe lapse in judgement.

Having taken OSHA courses and worked around rigs for 15 years, I make a point that EVERYTHING takes a back seat to safety and it starts with hiring people who think the same as you and riggers who don't take short cuts.
 

chris121580

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That video is so difficult to watch. This has rocked the state of Indiana pretty badly. It's absolutely amazing seeing how many people's first instinct was to run to the stage and help try and lift it up. I had friends that were there and thankfully all of them were ok but they said it's by far the scariest thing they've ever witnessed. I know that blame shouldn't be placed on anyone but they were calling for severe thunderstorm warnings on the news at least an hour before the stage collapse. There's absolutely no way anyone should've been out there for the concert at that time. They should've been evacuated and moved inside a long time ago. Such a tragedy
 

3rdman

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Been following the conversation on another forum with a few riggers who've weighed in.

For one, it seems that guy-wires were in fact used...On one picture, you can actually see the wires snap from the back so at least it looks like the riggers built it right but there are questions of whether or not it was over loaded. They estimate the speakers stacks at 5800 pounds on each side and it certainly contributed to how the rig collapsed.

I also came across a photo showing the towers that bridged the left speaker stacks literally snap apart as the rig came down...it should not do this. Once bolted together (and correctly), the truss will bend and contort as it comes down but never have I seen the bolts that join them give out like that...This happened on BOTH towers on the left side of the rig! I didn't think it'd be possible for that to happen and really makes me think that somebody built the towers poorly.

Lastly, these rigs are lifted with motors and unless the venue chooses to live with a light rig, they are usually tied off with ratchets to convert the roof into a "dead hang". This was done as well so there was ZERO possibility to lower the rig in time.

Naturally the wind took it down but tarps on the roof are designed to give way at certain speeds...if you look at the video, you can see that the right side of the roof did as expected and tore away. But the left side was being blown INTO the rig essentially turning the roof into a giant sail.

So sad...my heart goes out to the spot operator that died...it must have horrific for him as everything crashed in around him. :(
 

nateeasy

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http://www.digitalspy.com/music/new...-two-women-face-jail-for-faking-injuries.html

Two women who faked being injured in the Sugarland stage collapse disaster could face years in jail for fraud.

Stephanie Murry, 25, and Sandra Hurn, 38, attempted to claim total compensation of $22,500 (£14,600) following the tragedy at the Indiana State Fair in August, which left seven people dead.


The pair approached the Indiana State Fair Remembrance Fund and the Indiana Tort Claim Fund for money, but were caught out when the State Fair Commission informed police of their "questionable" claims.

According to the Indy Star, Hurn admitted to the scheme after mistakenly noting during questioning that Sugarland played "a couple of songs" before the collapse, when in fact the country duo had yet to begin their set.

She allegedly visited a hospital hours after the disaster to create a paper trail in support of her claim and later falsified medical documents to give the appearance of an injury.

"I do not understand the mentality of someone who would look at the circumstances of that night and see the potential for financial profit from this kind of scheme," Marion County prosecutor Terry Curry said. "Most of us would look at those circumstances and feel sympathy and a desire to help assist the real victims in any way we could."

Murry has been charged with forgery, perjury, and attempted theft, while Hurn faces a further theft allegation.

Hurn faces a maximum of 36 years in prison, while Murry could be locked up for a maximum of 14 years. Both could also be hit with thousands of pounds worth of fines.

The women, both from Indianapolis, are due in court on January 13 ahead of the trial's start date of February 27.

The State of Indiana announced that it will offer a total of $5m (£3.2m) compensation to victims of the stage collapse after settling a lawsuit earlier this month.

wowzers
 

bill0527

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Now that the lawsuits are rolling in, the band is saying to the people that died and were injured - it was your own fault.

http://www.14news.com/story/16982152/sugarland-blames-fans-for-state-fair-injuries

Sugarland blames fans for state fair injuries

By CARRIE SCHEDLER
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Fans who were killed and injured when stage rigging and sound equipment collapsed onto them as they awaited a Sugarland concert at the Indiana State Fair failed to take steps to ensure their own safety and are at least in part to blame for their injuries, the country duo's attorneys said.

The statement, part of a Feb. 16 response to a civil suit filed by survivors and families of some of those killed, comes in sharp contrast to earlier statements by lead singer Jennifer Nettles and appears to be an attempt to cast blame elsewhere.

Calling the powerful winds that toppled the stage on Aug. 13 an "act of God," Sugarland's attorneys said fair officials and Mid-America Sound Corp. were responsible for the stage setup, and that the fans voluntarily assumed risk by attending the show.

"Some or all of the plaintiffs' claimed injuries resulted from their own fault," according to the band's response. Sugarland attorney James H. Milstone did not immediately respond to a phone call seeking comment Tuesday.

Seven people died and 58 were injured in the crush beneath the metal rigging and concert sound equipment.

Nettles told The Associated Press in a statement issued through her manager two days after the collapse that she was "moved by the grief of those families who lost loved ones. Moved by the pain of those who were injured and the fear of their families. Moved by the great heroism as I watched so many brave Indianapolis fans actually run toward the stage to try and help lift and rescue those injured. Moved by the quickness and organization of the emergency workers who set up the triage and tended to the injured."

Attorneys representing at least 20 law firms across Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky filed the complaint Nov. 22 in Marion Superior Court in Indianapolis alleging breach of reasonable care to the victims. The suit names as plaintiffs dozens of people injured and the families of some of those killed, and it seeks unspecified damages from Sugarland, producers, stage riggers and others associated with the show.

Jeff Stesiak, a South Bend attorney involved in the suit, said the band's response was strange given the circumstances of the fans' injuries.

"It's unusual to put the blame on victims. The concert wasn't canceled and they weren't told to leave. I can't imagine what the victims did to be at fault," Stesiak said Tuesday. "They had a duty to warn fans. An open and obvious danger is more like walking along a road and seeing a downed power line and walking over it anyway. The storm wasn't like that."

Lawyers for the band are seeking a jury trial.

In a Jan. 16 deposition on a lawsuit against the company that built the stage rigging, Indiana State Fair Commission Executive Director Cindy Hoye testified that Sugarland resisted delaying the start of the concert despite threatening weather.

Hoye said a representative for a concert promotion company working with the fair twice approached Sugarland about the fair's desire to delay the show. But Hoye said the band expressed concerns about how a delay would affect the time Nettles needed to warm up and complicate the band's travel to its next show.


Sugarland tour manager Hellen Rollens told investigators with the Indiana Occupational Safety and Health Administration that there was no discussion of delaying the show.

Earlier this month, Indiana regulators released a report saying Hoye and other fair officials were too slow to order an evacuation.

IOSHA fined the State Fair Commission $6,300 for failing to conduct proper safety evaluations of its concert venues. It also called the commission's emergency plan inadequate.

The agency also cited Mid-America, the company that erected the stage rigging, and the union whose members worked on the structure for various workplace violations.
 

bill0527

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"Act of God" doesn't sicken me near as much as Sugarland's dirty lawyers saying it was the fault of the victims.

"Act of God" used to be cited by the insurance industry quite frequently, as a way to get out of paying claims, so that defense doesn't surprise me.
 
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