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Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky |OT| Just Pretend it's Mana-Khemia 3
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afreaknamedpete
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Yup. Both Super Properties and Cost Bonus provide a massive bonus to effect that rises with the PP cost of the traits you put on the item. According to tests I've run having cost bonus is far more effective than having all around boost.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I'll have to try again tomorrow night.
The Combo worked; I wasn't taking any damage (outside of moral loss damage which does reduce you to 1 HP eventually but whatever).
In my haste to try it out I forgot that the save I used to get back to that spot, I hadn't made any kickass bombs yet so I still couldn't do enough damage fast enough to counter her final form's auto-healing. Tomorrow night, the bitch is mine. XD
The Combo worked; I wasn't taking any damage (outside of moral loss damage which does reduce you to 1 HP eventually but whatever).
In my haste to try it out I forgot that the save I used to get back to that spot, I hadn't made any kickass bombs yet so I still couldn't do enough damage fast enough to counter her final form's auto-healing. Tomorrow night, the bitch is mine. XD
Beat the game at last. Enjoyed it a lot, but I think it's the first PS3 Atelier game I haven't liked more than the last. Ayesha still just had a certain something about it that this didn't top.
I must say though, that Sky of Twilight is one of my new favourite boss themes. I don't even like lyrics in my battle music, but this was incredibly great and really got your blood pumping. Shame that the final boss theme wasn't nearly as good. IMO.
Now, to wait for the DLC and such to come out before attempting an Escha run. It will be fun to try and beat the hard mode of the final boss that time around.
I must say though, that Sky of Twilight is one of my new favourite boss themes. I don't even like lyrics in my battle music, but this was incredibly great and really got your blood pumping. Shame that the final boss theme wasn't nearly as good. IMO.
Now, to wait for the DLC and such to come out before attempting an Escha run. It will be fun to try and beat the hard mode of the final boss that time around.
God, I hope we don't have to wait that long, that would be awful.
dakkumauji
Member
Well I could wait until then to do Escha's side if that's the case.
chrominance
Member
Yup. It's the only way to get both Escha's and Logy's exclusive items in one run, even.
Notorious_Roy
Member
Hmm, I don't think I'll ever finish the game. Culveig seems unbeatable at level 50 and I'm not really interested in grinding.
Any tips? Logy storyline.
Any tips? Logy storyline.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Grinding for levels isn't all that useful in this game. Levels matter surprisingly little, it's all about the alchemy, but you need to "grind" for good properties by getting relics after filling the search bar. This is only if you want to make really optimized items, you can probably do okay without worrying too much about properties.
For the big bird, just a few good items should be enough. Make an elixir, try to add properties like Perpetual Motion (infinite use), auto-use, but it's not strictly. I don't know if you use "Slag Essence", but it's an extremely useful item that gives you a bunch of support bar.
For equipment, if you don't have it already, make sure you get enough "increase skill damage" properties on Logy so that he gets at least +100% skill damage. This will make your items alot stronger. For accessories, Brother Call, Soul of Binding and Dragon's Crest are all extremely good options.
For damage focus on double draws. Start the item chain w/ Escha, run through your whole party with support attacks, then end the double-draw with a Tautzen Blitz. This should do a ton of damage to the enemy.
For the big bird, just a few good items should be enough. Make an elixir, try to add properties like Perpetual Motion (infinite use), auto-use, but it's not strictly. I don't know if you use "Slag Essence", but it's an extremely useful item that gives you a bunch of support bar.
For equipment, if you don't have it already, make sure you get enough "increase skill damage" properties on Logy so that he gets at least +100% skill damage. This will make your items alot stronger. For accessories, Brother Call, Soul of Binding and Dragon's Crest are all extremely good options.
For damage focus on double draws. Start the item chain w/ Escha, run through your whole party with support attacks, then end the double-draw with a Tautzen Blitz. This should do a ton of damage to the enemy.
dakkumauji
Member
So I assume I shouldn't fighting this Child of Terror when I first come across him.
It is blocking me from getting a gathering point though. Is there anything past this demon wolf?
Oh never mind that, looks like something open up after getting destroyed by him.
It is blocking me from getting a gathering point though. Is there anything past this demon wolf?
Oh never mind that, looks like something open up after getting destroyed by him.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
HAAH!! Beat her!! Thanks be to Rarutos!!
*chibi Miku dances*
*chibi Miku dances*
so she never hit you or what?HAAH!! Beat her!! Thanks be to Rarutos!!
*chibi Miku dances*
wow, just wow. Grats.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Everything she sent my way whiffed. I still lost some HP due to some environmental effects but those never kill you, just reduce to 1HP.
Its been a long time since I lasted posted here in GAF but I'd like to post my progress. Currently in my 2nd playthrough as Logy and the Final form of the Final boss is really really annoying. Its not really that hard tbh, its just that I think I'm not doing enough damage. All of my attempts are the same too, Reduce her life to 20% which is not really that hard, but during her Winter mode I'm completely defensive. I can survive her attacks but I can't deal damage either. And after a few minutes her life is back to 75%. Guess my biggest bottleneck are my bombs. I'm actually having trouble getting Jumbo Blessing but I think I'll try it next time and improve my Tauzent Blitz. I started my attempt at her with around 250+ days and now I'm reduced to 100+ because I accidentally overwrote one of my save files so I'm stuck with it. Also, I can fight her normal form just in case by selecting the first option right? Or will I still have to fight the true form since I broke the honeycombs?
Anyway, I think I'm going to try that dodge build, fighting the final boss several times and all attempts ending in failure is so stressful. Guess I'm going to love going to work for a while.
Anyway, I think I'm going to try that dodge build, fighting the final boss several times and all attempts ending in failure is so stressful. Guess I'm going to love going to work for a while.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Just make sure when you do you have a couple of very powerful bombs to Double Draw in her final form. (=ﾟωﾟ
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Notorious_Roy
Member
Thanks, I'll definitely try again next weekend! Where can I find the (recipe for) Tautzen Blitz?
Notorious_Roy
Member
Indeed, and it does work. I managed to double draw II twice before it began to attack three times in a row.
I'll try to upgrade my gear some more. Need more defense and ways to increase support build up. Also just found out about elixers. Those really help. Sometimes I wonder how I even got this far :lol
dakkumauji
Member
My word, that battle music during the
fight was the most amazing thing ever.
Gullveig
Best battle music in the game by far, which is saying quite a bit. They should have saved it for the final boss, but I'm just glad we got it.
Notorious_Roy
Member
I've reached the end of the game but got the bad ending. Never defeated Gulveig, when he's almost dead his healing and let-me-attack-six-times-in-a-row ruins the game for me.
Too bad.
Too bad.
I just got Evade Danger, Show Illusions, and Light Movement on my Armors and haven't done the dodge accessories yet. Also trying to find Jumbo Blessing and Cost Bonus properties. Its also a bit annoying that I have little free time right now and I won't be having my day off until Monday. I want to fight the Final Boss again! Because of that I'm currently addicted to Colony Collapse Disorder lol
Make a Knowledge Book next time, made that battle so easy
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
This plus Tauzent Blitz + Double Draw II = Awesome damage if you attach Super Properties/Jumbo Blessing/Cost Bonus on them (all cost lots of PP though so you'll need to attach a Traditional Soul to one of the items you use to make them.)
Give me tips for awesome Tauzent Blitz plz (I don't think I have enough time to make dodge armor stuff, I'm already in late Nov.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
When you get to the
Fallen Ruins
But you still need traditional soul to have enough PP to add all three traits to the Tblitz. Repeat the above steps but change the location where you use the Dowsing Rods/Lanterns to the Searing Wastes (the location that branches Left). Look for Melty Metal relics and try to get Traditional Soul. This will also likely take a few attempts.
Making a TBlitz takes 2 other Blitz Cores. I made two Wind Blitzs because both of those take a Jewel to make which a Green Crystal Qualifies for. As for the 3rd trait and Traditional Soul IIRC I attached them to a either a Moon Tablet or an Iron Clay (or to an Iron Clay so I could then attach to a Moon Tablet... I think. I won't be home for a while so I can't double check atm.).
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Good luck! I'll try to be online. Busy day at work makes it a touch more difficult. >>
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
If you can't find it, I think Cost Bonus can be crafted, iirc. Property enhance x Property enhance+ I think?
Jet Black Cubes have PE+
I'm not sure how to do that exactly D:
afreaknamedpete
Member
You know when you're crafting and at the bottom right hand of the screen you have a note sheet containing all the added properties from all the ingredients?
Well when you've finished crafting the game complies a humongous list of all your properties: the ones from your added ingredients, and the 5 ones intrinsic to the item (provided you reached level 5 on the property value). Out of this large list you select 3 properties to be carried over into the final item.
Any properties that can combine will do so in the big list. To make "Cost Bonus" all you need is to make an item with one ingredient containing "property enhance" and another with "property enhance+". The two properties will combine when you're done synthesizing, and you can select "Cost Bonus" from the final list.
Well when you've finished crafting the game complies a humongous list of all your properties: the ones from your added ingredients, and the 5 ones intrinsic to the item (provided you reached level 5 on the property value). Out of this large list you select 3 properties to be carried over into the final item.
Any properties that can combine will do so in the big list. To make "Cost Bonus" all you need is to make an item with one ingredient containing "property enhance" and another with "property enhance+". The two properties will combine when you're done synthesizing, and you can select "Cost Bonus" from the final list.
dakkumauji
Member
So I'm on the last assignment (the one that gives more than enough days to do whatever) and I finished almost every task expect one.
It's on the bottom right corner and it is still literally as a question mark. What on earth do I have to do to unlock it?
It's on the bottom right corner and it is still literally as a question mark. What on earth do I have to do to unlock it?
chrominance
Member
So, uh, you
fight any dragons
If you're not one for hints:
There are six boss dragons to fight in total--four dragons in each of the dungeons of the dragon's nest besides the head, the metal-eating dragon at the head, and then a final dragon that also appears at the head (I think). You'll need to kill the metal-eating dragon at the very least (even if you snuck past it the first time you got to its nest). You probably have to kill all five. When Duke tells you about that last dragon, the final task will unlock.
Also, I sat down around 9pm to get through another assignment in my Logy playthrough and ended up playing for seven hours straight. Also: putting all the dodge properties on Feather Ornament/Concealing Hood and armor? Totally works. My 93hp Lucille didn't get hit once during the longest battle ever with Child of Terror--the battle where I didn't bother to bring any items larger than one slot because of that "equip 50 search items" task. I don't recommend ever doing this.
dakkumauji
Member
Oh, so I guess I just needed to kill some time before the event popped up so I could clear off my last assignment board.
I decided to not attempt to reach level 99 or beat the powered up final boss out of laziness and I guess wanting to get Escha's exclusive items.
Got all the available endings I could on the first run so that was pretty neat.
Overall, I rather liked this game. Having a male lead didn't bring the end of the world to an Atelier game though I guess it did put Escha into the background (unless this is mostly a Logy route thing). I liked the upgraded graphics that came with the musou engine, the characters were all pretty fun and they fixed Ayesha's problems of your cast not being integrated into the main plot so that's good.
I'll probably want to wait for the DLC to come out before doing a New Game+ so I'll have something newish to look forward to.
I decided to not attempt to reach level 99 or beat the powered up final boss out of laziness and I guess wanting to get Escha's exclusive items.
Got all the available endings I could on the first run so that was pretty neat.
Overall, I rather liked this game. Having a male lead didn't bring the end of the world to an Atelier game though I guess it did put Escha into the background (unless this is mostly a Logy route thing). I liked the upgraded graphics that came with the musou engine, the characters were all pretty fun and they fixed Ayesha's problems of your cast not being integrated into the main plot so that's good.
I'll probably want to wait for the DLC to come out before doing a New Game+ so I'll have something newish to look forward to.
chrominance
Member
It is a Logy route thing, I think. I'm surprised at how well done each person's story is, despite 80-90% of the scenes being the same. I started with Escha first and felt her story was very much her own, and now that I'm playing through Logy you do see a different perspective. Even the way events occur change ever so slightly, though so far nothing that impacts the plot in any way. For example,
Escha's unique item she makes for Reyfer at the contest he has with Harry is different from Logy's, and you get a different alchemy recipe as a result.
TK put up a survey for Escha & Logy.
EU:
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/atelier-escha-logy_eu
NA:
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/atelier-escha-logy_na
EU:
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/atelier-escha-logy_eu
NA:
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/atelier-escha-logy_na