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August Wrasslin' |OT| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU-LY
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Sibersk Esto
Banned
No Anth0ny you don't get it. Malice implies competence.
The real scary thing? The terrifying reality of it all?
I think the Punk program was 100% designed to get him over. They thought that would work.
serenewarfare
Banned
Brock and Kurt immediately spring to mind.
But at the same time, Juice is gonna need a lot of people in front of him to disappear before he even sniffs that belt. And he needs more personality. He reminds me of pre-LIJ Naito at this point.
Yeah , AJ stlyes , Brock , Vader etc.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I hope Cormier demolishes Jones, fam.
Kurt actually Never held the IWGP
bean breath
Member
Bluekaveli or Speedy Blue Dude?
sf2fanatic
Member
I miss SoulPlaya
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Nah. I'm sorry. From the moment HHH got involved, this becomes extremely difficult to believe. From the moment Nash got involved, it's downright impossible. I can't do it, friend.
Dental Plan
Member
As long as the BIG DAWG is around, WWE will stay strong. Marks pay to boo him.
Now they do, other times naw.
The Brock run did not work at all.
serenewarfare
Banned
He is, but there's a difference between being over and being a top tier guy. I mean very few guys win that IWGP belt. Only four guys have held it at all in the last six years. It's extremely exclusive.
Like I said, Juice right now reminds me of old Naito. He's over and he can have a great match with anyone, but he's not top champ material. He needs something more.
He won it from Brock, but it's just not recognized by NJPW because they were in a dispute with Brock at the time. So technically yes, but also technically no. It's weird.
sf2fanatic
Member
serenewarfare
Banned
Can you imagine the matches he'd be having with Okada and Omega right now...
Such a waste.
As much as I'd love to see that, dude seems super happy right now and he has a job for life, so I can't be too mad at it.
Just look up his match against Okada from Dominion 2015 , it might be an best match.
Can you imagine the matches he'd be having with Okada and Omega right now...
Such a waste.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Pre-lims were pretty great too. Hope main card delivers.
excelsiorlef
Member
Seriously. For every guy that gets into being an indy wrestler to be an indy wrestler, five+ get into wrestling because there's a big company to make good money at the end of the rainbow
Also, for the women wrestlers other than WWE where else can you make good money?
Japan.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Heroman heromaning it up.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
At what point does a generation come along filled with people who don't want to be pro wrestlers?
serenewarfare
Banned
There's really not that much money in joshi.
Woodley fight will probably be boring but expect all the others to be great. Main Event feud has so much heat surrounding it.
Really want Cormier to pull it out of the bag.
SallyIsNow
Banned
excelsiorlef
Member
Not every North American woman wrestler jesus not even most
If that was true why did WWE just sign away the top talent of Stardom?
excelsiorlef
Member
When there's no big company on weekly TV.
Same reason why they sign njpw or roh or anyone top Talent.You can make good money in alot places WWE just pays better, hopefully.
By that same token there are just as many that turned down WWE based on contracts offered. The joshi scene isn't in a healthy spot, but if you're a top draw then you can do just as well staying in Japan. They'd be smart to know that there are only so many foreign female wrestlers that the WWE/NXT will give a genuine push.
It wouldn't be easy, but a female wrestler can make a name and make good money for herself if they hustle enough. It's certainly possible to make a good living outside the WWE, it's just rare and it has to be the right kind of talent. You just have to have the heart to be a true freelancer.
Arrowgigantic
Member
plenty of people wanted to be wrestlers when they grew up before the 80s WWF wrestling boom
pro wrestling doesn't begin and end with wwe
RecRoulette
Member
Remember when Io Shirai, Kairi Hojo, and Mayu Iwatani broke Pentagon's arm in Lucha Underground? Of course you don't, no one's watching Season 3!
excelsiorlef
Member
And without WWE as an option/motivator. The number of people who try to become wrestlers shrinks significantly
It's a terrible profession, that really isn't a bad thing.
SallyIsNow
Banned
>number of people that want to be wrestlers because of WWE decreases
>bad thing
Pick one, and only one.
>bad thing
Pick one, and only one.
It's hard to say how much of an impact it would truly have, but truth be told, you don't suffer the grind of making a living and reach the highest levels if your only goal is to get a call from papa Haitch. There's a special amount of mental illness needed to last and excel enough to even get to the point where you're on WWE's radar.
Sweeney Tom
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In terms of Main Reason they're not interested, I can agree.
In terms of Reasons they're not interested, this upcoming generation I can see having multiple reasons already, and if that happened it would just be the final nail.
Let's be honest, this upcoming generation of people growing up on wrestling and asking themselves "do I want to do this for a living?" have plenty of reasons not to. One, get it out of the way quick, Benoit happened. Two, CTE being a more major concern than ever has to be considered, especially with people like Bryan and McGuinness (and to a lesser extent Christian) having their retirements forced at least temporarily after a lengthy history of concussions*.
Another thing that has to be considered is people growing up wanting to be in WWE see themselves in Punk, AJ Lee, etc in that they also wanted to be wrestlers and wound up disinterested in/actively avoiding the entire business as a whole after their shitty experiences and time there. Really hard to ignore.
SallyIsNow
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