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August Wrasslin' |OT| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU-LY
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SallyIsNow
Banned
It's bedtime, gramps.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Be a man!
It would be a shame if some of those tag teams all of the sudden can't compete niñito..and what happens to them is on you.
Asuka burying the division only to have Ember Moon be the only one to possibly beat her was a mistake. They've done a poor job of building Ember Moon.
It's not about how they build her up, it's about Ember having the charisma of a dead fish
Agreed.
They should have pulled the plug on super human Asuka a while back and started having matches be alot closer with people like Cross and others as well as Moon.
She is obviously not going to go on a long smash streak on the main roster.
My honest fear about Asuka on the main roster is that she is going to injure someone, and it will not be her fault but that it is held against her.
serenewarfare
Banned
The decisions made with Ember have been perfectly fine. She just doesn't have the promo ability to carry those decisions.
But, despite that, she's super over and can go in the ring, so she's still the best choice of the available options to beat Asuka.
But, despite that, she's super over and can go in the ring, so she's still the best choice of the available options to beat Asuka.
Brian_FETO
Banned
excelsiorlef
Member
Yeah she's over so they should continue with her push but she's my pick for next NXT call up failure because her promos will be the end of her on the main roster
serenewarfare
Banned
I do disagree that Asuka has buried Cross. She gave her a lot in the Last Woman Standing match. Like a whole lot.
She is a worse promo than him, but I can see her getting over on the main roster for some of the same reasons Finn has gotten over.
She is a worse promo than him, but I can see her getting over on the main roster for some of the same reasons Finn has gotten over.
excelsiorlef
Member
I can't.
Balor is a mediocre promo Ember makes Bayley look like Ric Flair on the mic.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Eh, just didn't buy it. Shane has been a face since his return, what, 3 years ago and going. No one had in the back of their head that this feud would be cause for Shane to turn heel. There was no reason to even suggest it.
To be clear, KO framed it as 'careful now, remember what he did 19 years ago?!' during a time and incident that had nothing to do with either KO or AJ. It was so random.
excelsiorlef
Member
serenewarfare
Banned
There have only been five Takeovers since she debuted. She was on two of them, and would have been on a third if not for an injury. The injury derailed her. This would have been her third straight Takeover.
That's kind of out of everyone's control. No blame there.
Dude main roster crowds are superficial as fuck. She's got a cool entrance (relative to others) and a cool finishing move. And they are going to push her. Usually those types of people get over.
There's no good reason she couldn't have been on those other two shows. None at all. Fact is they dropped the ball when they didn't need to.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
To whom? To AJ? Why would AJ give a shit that Shane flipped and screwed Stone Cold over? He wouldn't and shouldn't . Didn't concern him.
To Shane? Why would he want to be an asshole to the referee he just accused of being impartial? Eager to get screwed?
serenewarfare
Banned
Takeovers are usually hard-capped at five or so matches. And Ember wasn't the focus of the division in Toronto or San Antonio. There was no need for her to be on those shows. A superficial squash against someone on those cards would have meant nothing in the long-term.
Like what would it have changed? It wouldn't have improved her promo ability or character work. And it wouldn't have helped her get more over, as she's already more over than most of the NXT roster.
sf2fanatic
Member
Short plz.
excelsiorlef
Member
To AJ because he was sewing seeds of maybe Shane will screw AJ.
It shows that he's had a history of being bias and AJ killed him in a parking lot blindside attack and then beat him in a match. Sure Shane it is all good but look he also said he was with Austin in 98 and look what happened so are you sure?
It's asshole mind games and a fun excuse to use old footage for continuity.
Honestly you're trying too hard to find this illogical.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Parappa is bad
Brian_FETO
Banned
No you
She's been there from the start. Without Pearl, Earth ain't got no Crystal Gems, period, brother.
SallyIsNow
Banned
excelsiorlef
Member
http://shop.wwe.com/alexa-bliss/
Btw I'd say Bliss is moving a lot of merch given how much they've made for her in the year she's been on the main roster.
Remember when she had nothing when she first was SD women's champion?
Now look at that stuff.
She's got 10 tees and tank designs now.
Crazy shit.
She was also the most over woman in Raw and all she did was make an entrances for guest commentary spots
Btw I'd say Bliss is moving a lot of merch given how much they've made for her in the year she's been on the main roster.
Remember when she had nothing when she first was SD women's champion?
Now look at that stuff.
She's got 10 tees and tank designs now.
Crazy shit.
She was also the most over woman in Raw and all she did was make an entrances for guest commentary spots
There's no good reason for the hard cap, there never has and never will. Extend your show 15 minutes, who cares, it's your own damn network. They don't even need to be squash matches, just a match to show to your widest possible audience why the person who ends Asuka's streak is her. Basic booking isn't supposed to be this hard.
I'm not even saying this was the crippling blow to her booking, but it is part of the larger issue. When the supposed end of one of the longest streaks of any kind in the company is a result of "ok I guess she's going up to the main roster", then people have fucked up. The booking as well as Moon herself share the blame.
half a moon
Banned
Lets bring in Kevin Nash to break the streak
I think the reason for her merch selling well is fairly obvious.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Alexa is like the one woman on the main roster who's been booked consistently strong and hasn't had anything dumb or affecting happening to her. I say good on her for managing to avoid that curse (usually because like with Bayley, she's on the delivering half of the stuff which ruins someone).
excelsiorlef
Member
Yep she's the promo workhorse of the division and one of the only obes who can make the frequently bad writing work... within reason.
I don't think there's anyone in the Women's Division who has a character even half as good.
Also, the cartoon character aesthetic is ace even if it was jacked from DC. Those shirts are fairly 'safe'.
Your fat ass is poor form
Quote me when you try to shoot on me you lily-livered, egg-sucking dog
BewareTheBatsie
Member
fucking amazing
Brian_FETO
Banned
I want to die
excelsiorlef
Member
I use to say Charlotte was close but Smackdown has basically lowered her stock a lot
Yeah I love her tees. She's approaching Kevin Owens level merch quality (KO still wins on grounds of how many city/tour/show specific stuff that he gets and gets right). (Incidentally I have 3 KO and 3 Bliss shirts which is most I have of any individual wrestler). I want to get horror movie poster Five Feet of Fury one next and maybe the art print and acid wash ones. Maybe the tank way down the road. Only one that sucks is the WWE x Nerds one but most of that line sucks anyway.
I think it helps that Bliss' tees are all really colourful and Bliss has a lot of good pun usages.
The newest Twisted Bliss Alexa shirt is probably my fav and it was actually the only shirt I ended up buying on my 3 day wrestling tour. Saw a ton of them being bought and worn on Raw, many little girls wearing the new one too.
She's probably up there in terms of recent NXT success stories.
I only need your salty tears to validate my righteous sense of superiority
One of these are Zach Jr
Brian_FETO
Banned
This Ospreay Assassin's Creed entrance at Chapter 20
Why
Why
half a moon
Banned
Cause it's too coo for schoo