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August Wrasslin' |OT| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU-LY
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I think putting Jordan with Angle and The Miz is showing a lot of faith in Jordan. As the story progresses they need to deal with the fact that Angle might be using him though. At some point Angle vs. Jordan either directly or with a stand in for Angle in the ring.
blackaroni
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Dumb can be entertaining.
Jason's mom is white, right? Even if she isn't, he kinda looks like Kurt. Kurt plays an authority figure for the company...Not in Jason's life. I don't see the issue.
It's basically he is only making it as he has a famous white dad. So instead of him making it (or being hyped) on his own he is only making cus of Angle. It a thing that is used way too much for PoC.
It's basically black man can't make it with out a white dudes help. That shit aint liked by many in the black community
excelsiorlef
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You have the weirdest talent level ratings.
For someone who loves NJPW you rate far too many people on IWGP Heavyweight Championship level.
bean breath
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Paul Heyman announces that if Brock loses at SummerSlam, both he and Lesnar will leave WWE.
This adds a nice little wrinkle to the main event but let's be honest, we all know what the main draw is:
How many Germans Reigns, Strowman, and Joe will each take.
I'm going to wager that Roman will take the most Germans for two reasons:
1.) He's easier to lift than Strowman
2.) It's easier to wrap your arms around him than Samoa Joe
I'm just gonna throw some numbers out off the top of my head and say
Roman Reigns - 8 Germans
Samoa Joe - 5 Germans
Braun Strowman- 3 Germans
This adds a nice little wrinkle to the main event but let's be honest, we all know what the main draw is:
How many Germans Reigns, Strowman, and Joe will each take.
I'm going to wager that Roman will take the most Germans for two reasons:
1.) He's easier to lift than Strowman
2.) It's easier to wrap your arms around him than Samoa Joe
I'm just gonna throw some numbers out off the top of my head and say
Roman Reigns - 8 Germans
Samoa Joe - 5 Germans
Braun Strowman- 3 Germans
blackaroni
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That's fair. I didn't see it that way. Part of wrestling tends to be putting people in positions to succeed with veterans when you want to give them a push. I see your point though.
This is nonsense. It's not that fucking deep, dude.
Aint that hard to see that shit man, you don't even have to look at it deeply.
I don't see anything.
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bean breath
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I think a total of 16 Germans isn't asking too much if he paces himself.
Then again, he's known for stringing together a few Germans in quick succession.
Professor Beef
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Jason Jordan needs all the character development he can get. Dude has no personality.
I think we can meet that quota.
He shouldn't be getting a push at all tbf. Vince just likes his body.
Dumb storyline Kills promotions.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think you're reading too much into it; particularly given that 100% of the audience that cares about that kind of thing knows that wrestling is fake and its all just a device to push Jason Jordan. If they were going out of their way to be racist they wouldn't push Jason Jordan at all.
John Cena is orders of magnitude more famous than anyone else in the locker-room. If he was seriously hurt at all there would be a million reports; Meltzer would literally be doing update specials on his condition, etc.
It's not exactly racist, it is a trope/ plot device that is used a lot for PoC.
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He's a good looking guy with a good skill set in the ring. He's lacking on the mic but that can hopefully be fixed. They are being a bit bold with him but I think he's deserving of a push. I think Gable needs a good one too on Smackdown.
They should have run with an on show segment between Bryan and Gable doing the whole "he's my son" thing while mocking RAW.
1. It builds up the rivalry between RAW and Smackdown Live
2. It lets Gable say what he feels about it on air and he should be a little pissed that his partner dumped him at the drop of a hat to be with his daddy.
blackaroni
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And that's actually Beefy's suggestion lol. Insane.
funkystudent
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Jesus Amgles neck is still like that huh?
I am not suggesting that at all.. So yeah insane!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It mostly felt to me like they just though they could get away with the, erm, angle because he looks a bit like Angle and because Jordan is half-white.
that's why I'm asking Grimace
If it was bad enough that they didn't even know someone would have reported it to a dirtsheet or Meltzer by now. I think it was one of those bumps that looks nasty but he just tucked and rolled.
FWIW I think that botch was on both guys, just a lack of communication about what move was going to happen there. That can happen in any match in any fed and I highly doubt that either of them are getting heat for it. Botching gutwrench exploder isn't the same thing as "intentionally doing a piledriver on Raw."
He the most talented wreslter NXT has produce.
blackaroni
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To be fair, a lot of people think that Gable is amazingly talented as a wrestler. Meltzer said so, and AJ did a fluff piece about him.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
For me that's going to be Charlotte Flair because Gable hasn't been given enough to do for me to agree with it.
This is a weird situation where Gable and Jordan are getting more spotlight as singles on the main roster than they have ever gotten before being split up (and not in a feud with each other, for once).
Also, I'm generally against pushing someone if the talent isn't worthy, both in-ring and character-wise, because I feel like it could lead to people getting fatigued on pushing them for the sake of it.
Especially, when you have great black talent like Big E and Woods just sat there in a stale tag team.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They're the tag champs and a total merch machine. Giving Big E a title run is one of those things I thought was just a joke because he's not great in the ring and he was nothing special at all until the New Day came out and gave him a platform for being a comedy guy.
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New Day needs a heel turn. I don't think much good will come of splitting them up. They work so well together.
bean breath
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The Raw Tag Team Division sure is stacked isn't it?
You have The Hardy Boyz, Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson, The Revival, Sheamus & Cesaro, and a potential Shield reunion with Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose.
I think emphasizing Tag Teams (along with splitting the roster between two shows) is a smart and efficient way to get more Superstars more TV time.
Take the match between The Hardys and Gallows & Anderson w/ Revival on commentary. You have 6 Superstars on TV, given ample time to shine in the ring, on the mic, and they even throw in a little free-for-all hardcore brawl at the end for good measure. All within the span of a few minutes.
You have The Hardy Boyz, Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson, The Revival, Sheamus & Cesaro, and a potential Shield reunion with Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose.
I think emphasizing Tag Teams (along with splitting the roster between two shows) is a smart and efficient way to get more Superstars more TV time.
Take the match between The Hardys and Gallows & Anderson w/ Revival on commentary. You have 6 Superstars on TV, given ample time to shine in the ring, on the mic, and they even throw in a little free-for-all hardcore brawl at the end for good measure. All within the span of a few minutes.
I get that but they were singles wrestlers with great talent at one point and TND won't last forever. I'm not saying it has to be now but at some point.
With all the great black talent out there, within WWE and outside it, there's no reason why there can't be a super-talented, super-over, face WWE Champion.
TND has shown me that Big E and Woods are good enough in the ring and on the mic to be successful singles wrestlers.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't know, let's ask the strawman who gave that opinion for his thoughts on it.
Giving Big E a title run is one of those things I thought was just a wrestling in-joke because he's not great in the ring and he was nothing special at all until the New Day came out and gave him a platform for being a comedy guy.
I am just saying it is a lazy ass trope, which cancels out them pushing a PoC for me.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I just can't buy the argument that it represents some an inappropriate racial trope when in reality they probably just want to push Jason Jordan because he's handsome, tall and buff. Honestly, this sounds a lot more like your complaint is unfortunate implications rather than actually abusing a dead-horse trope.
Blackaroni's a person. That's a mean thing to say.
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sf2fanatic
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But Braun and Rome are both heels
A worked fight.What is pro wrestling?
