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August Wrasslin' |OT| Make a.. make a good...uh...a good wrestling thread
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slightconfuse
Banned
Austin protecting his journalist best is the best
mariachi507
Member
Outside of some matches from Climax 23, and a few Wrestle Kingdoms I'm a complete NJPW newbie. I'm going to change this. Damn shame though that the first thing I hear when I load up WK10 is Matt Striker. I just finished the second season of Lucha Underground and I've decided that most of the time he is insufferable. On the other end, I love the Japanese commentary. I might not understand what all they are saying, but they can really put over a match with their tone and emotion.
blackaroni
Member
This is all I could think of when Finn was whispering his nursery rhymes from that booster seat:
This is all I could think of when Finn was whispering his nursery rhymes from that booster seat:
Yeah, I had no problem with him last week like some did, but that was such an awful segment. You have to introduce Finn, sure, but at least do it in a better way than that.
WWE Network is available on Android TV. I have it.
Why would you need to watch wrestling or anything in 4K?
JESUS YOU ARE RIGHT... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlbam.wwe_asb_app
When the fuck did this happen and why wasn't I informed?
Because it's 2016 and I'm not a goddamn farm animal, Recall! Jesus.
When the fuck did this happen and why wasn't I informed?
Because it's 2016 and I'm not a goddamn farm animal, Recall! Jesus.
Dean Ambrose is not real. I mean, he's clearly guarded and putting on a front, for whatever reason. It doesn't make for compelling interviews. And that last part was brutal. That was Dean's moment to fire up, knock the mic off the desk, and tell Austin the whole roster would pay for Austin's disrespect before storming off the set. Or something. But he just awkwardly sat there like a deer in the headlights. Jesus!
Anyway, I still like the guy fine, but I'd be surprised if this wasn't the death of his run. Or, if he's smart and realizes he looked like a buffoon, he actually throws caution to the wind and truly pushes the envelope. I don't think that'll happen based on him saying stuff like "but Stone Cold, I tryyy
"...
Anyway, as the kids say, it wasn't a good look for your world champeen.
Anyway, I still like the guy fine, but I'd be surprised if this wasn't the death of his run. Or, if he's smart and realizes he looked like a buffoon, he actually throws caution to the wind and truly pushes the envelope. I don't think that'll happen based on him saying stuff like "but Stone Cold, I tryyy
"... Anyway, as the kids say, it wasn't a good look for your world champeen.
Same.
I'm glad to hear Ambrose's thoughts about his WM match against Brock. Sad to hear he couldn't do what he wanted.
Fuck Brock.
whatevermort
Member
Dean Ambrose is not real. I mean, he's clearly guarded and putting on a front, for whatever reason. It doesn't make for compelling interviews. And that last part was brutal. That was Dean's moment to fire up, knock the mic off the desk, and tell Austin the whole roster would pay for Austin's disrespect before storming off the set. Or something. But he just awkwardly sat there like a deer in the headlights. Jesus!
Anyway, I still like the guy fine, but I'd be surprised if this wasn't the death of his run. Or, if he's smart and realizes he looked like a buffoon, he actually throws caution to the wind and truly pushes the envelope. I don't think that'll happen based on him saying stuff like "but Stone Cold, I tryyy
Anyway, as the kids say, it wasn't a good look for your world champeen.
I'm not sure shooting an angle with a retired wrestler who is egging you on to be unprofessional and actively work against what you are told to do is a good look.
UberTag
Member
This is the real crux of the argument right here.
Some guys WILL benefit from scripting... at least until they get their feet wet or get more comfortable in the skin of their characters and ad libbing and get improv training under their belt. There's no question about this. You shouldn't send someone like a Kalisto out to kill time in a segment for 60 seconds with no direction after being asked a stupid question.
But you need to have better writers behind the scripts and you should have dedicated writers for each performer instead of a stable of guys writing the same generic-sounding nonsense for two to three dozen guys. THAT mentality doesn't work.
For the guys that need scripting you should have one or two guys at most writing their material. And they should collaborate with the talent and involve them in the process to develop and establish what their characters are about, what motivates them, what makes sense, what doesn't make sense... actively engage them for their input so that when the training wheels come off and you don't script them so much they intuitively know precisely what makes their character tick. I'm pretty sure Bray Wyatt's promos are developed this way... but he's like an exception to the rule and that really shouldn't be the case.
slightconfuse
Banned
Finn's entrance will be really lame or really cool
blackaroni
Member
Either way, it's gonna take him like 10 minutes to get to the ring and he's gonna look dumb when the match starts.
I mean...true.
Didn't they try that with Sheamus as well at some stage?
Do they ever learn? Are the fucking stupid? Do they enjoy presenting most of their talents as goofy fuckheads?
I though the Finn segment was great, they're establishing his character for a new audience and used this to explain what his name means and what his demon persona entails. Good exposition with some cool graphics, perfect.
I also like that Finn's name actually has some meaning to it. Ask Dolph Ziggler to explain his name and see what you end up with.
I also like that Finn's name actually has some meaning to it. Ask Dolph Ziggler to explain his name and see what you end up with.
If Austin was in the wrong then he shouldn't be employed to do these sit-downs. The end result was still Ambrose looking like a schmuck, right or wrong, fair or unfair, professional or unprofessional.
FlammableD
Banned
I've got the app on Android TV, dunno about casting though.
Yeah, I honestly don't know how I missed that, was the release not advertised? Weird.
UberTag
Member
Yep, The Demon has to win. Hope Seth can drag a half-decent match out of him.
Do they ever learn? Nope.
Are they fucking stupid? I wouldn't say that. They are senile, though.
Do they enjoy presenting most of their talents as goofy fuckheads? Seems that way.
FlammableD
Banned
Nothing's advertised for Android TV
It's the OS on like half the TV's in the market now, so it's probably okay.
FlammableD
Banned
yeah, there's nothing really big I miss, especially with casting.
Dean is the WWE champion and he has to be the company man. This isn't Vince or Hunter who can say what the fuck they want or Big Show who is winding down. Dean's gotta tow the company line and Austin was being antagonistic and rightly so in my mind, expressing what everyone in this thread would want to happen with Dean. But Dean, as the guy with the title can't really say much beyond "Well shucks we are trying Steve! God bless this brand".
If providing the correct, company approved answer to that question needed Dean to look like a shmuck, well gah dang son, that's what he should do as an independent contractor fulfilling his obligations to the company. Anything else would have been irresponsible and poor brand optics.
Well, only Sony and Phillips TVs with Sharp to follow, so probably not half the TVs sold or anything like that.
At least, that's according to Google.
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Deleted member 47027
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The deal Austin has is that he does what he wants, that is worth having the show on the Network to WWE.
Yeah, I honestly have no idea what the TV market looks like.
Honestly, I only wanted a Philips TV because of Ambilight because it integrates with Philips Hue and I want my entire appartment to light up like a christmas tree when I watch TV so the neighbours wonder just what the fuck goes on in there at night.
blackaroni
Member
I worked late last night so I was falling asleep by the time I got to the podcast. Started off awkward as hell, I fell asleep before they got into any wrestling and then I sort of woke up for the last 5 minutes, which was also awkward as hell.
This morning I watched the whole thing and when Dean's talking wrestling it's pretty great. Definitely a must-watch, and I can't wait to see if it affects him at all tonight on Smackdown.
This morning I watched the whole thing and when Dean's talking wrestling it's pretty great. Definitely a must-watch, and I can't wait to see if it affects him at all tonight on Smackdown.
Bluekaveli
Member
I remember reading when he was down south putting the gimmick together, it was more Terminator like so when he got to the main roster, I guess they decided they didn't want it anymore because I never saw a thing that screamed terminator.
Dean Ambrose the character, the champion is a secondary concern to not talking shit about the company he is the current, theoretical top representative of.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
There's an old pre WWE interview that may or may not be kayfabe where Dean talks about living in a big stretch of government housing where he sometimes had to sell drugs before dropping out of highschool to pro wrestle.
I don't think the dude has much of a life outside the biz.
I don't think the dude has much of a life outside the biz.
He's taking the L, won't be clean though. I think it'll be a tremendous mistake to put the belt on Balor this soon.
The Elite
BOSS
Debut the demon and let Seth slay it for good.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Blue you've been rewatching a lot of RAWs, am I just wearing rose colored glasses or were lead ins to PPV not this heavily choreographed? I guess part of this is coming from PPV happening every 3-4 weeks now and in 96-99 you still had gaps between events.
Because a lot of writing feels like fan service right now?
another thing your WWE champ should probably not admit to doing in the past
Huh? Talking crap about the company? He did criticize certain things within the company. But that's not what I'm even talking about. He could've handled the Stone Cold Challenge better. But he just sat there like the proverbial lump on a log, daddeh. He should've shown fire, even if he changed absolutely nothing about his approach behind the scenes and/or in front of the camera afterward. The problem was him looking like a big, spineless nothing at the end. Y'know?
Barrage
Member
All im gonna say is you shouldnt have to say youre gonna "turn it up" when youre already the fucking WWE Champion.
Dean will be a transistional champion, most likely to Styles, and it will be an outcome that is entirely his fault after he was given the ball.
I also think Ambrose is like Y2J in that he os delusional when his work has fallen off. Its why the combination of them both resulted in the absolute shits.
Dean will be a transistional champion, most likely to Styles, and it will be an outcome that is entirely his fault after he was given the ball.
I also think Ambrose is like Y2J in that he os delusional when his work has fallen off. Its why the combination of them both resulted in the absolute shits.