Ninja Scooter
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The crowd was so dead their families have joined the class action lawsuit against the WWE
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August Wrasslin' |OT| Make a.. make a good...uh...a good wrestling thread
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The crowd was so dead their families have joined the class action lawsuit against the WWE
SallyIsNow
Banned
Vince probably jumped Austin in the parking lot for telling Ambrose to be edgier.
blackaroni
Member
Goddamn.
Jimmy King
Member
I think Rollins has reached X-Pac heat with me.
Reigns will be there too if he defeats Ru-Ru.
Reigns will be there too if he defeats Ru-Ru.
Jimmy King
Member
RUSEV MACHKA
Net_Wrecker
Member
The Austin/Ambrose interview was entertaining.
- Dean clearly does not want to dig through his old dirty laundry, and Austin pressing him on it for a little too long brought a lot to the interview. There's definitely a sob story there, but Dean ain't having it and has built up a wall of slight loner tendencies and (over?) confidence to compensate, neither of which are necessarily a negative.
- Dean opened up a lot more after that when the discussion shifted to wrestling, and went on decently long monologues and rants that help to put a lot of what we see into context. He's obviously a wrestling geek at heart and takes The Business™ seriously in some ways, but his upbringing and personality are at odds with that part of him. You can also start to see Austin get a little frustrated at his inability to pin down what Dean Ambrose is and how his mind works.
- Then the real interesting part of the interview: Austin prodding Ambrose to make sure he reaches his potential. I genuinely think Ambrose was offended when Austin said he's been resting on his laurels a bit, but similar to the story Ambrose told about the producer saying something that he never forgot, he reverted back to his tendencies and internalized the whole thing, refusing to give Austin the energy or response he wanted. If Dean ever fires back, it'll be in the ring. (although I also think part of what Austin was referring to was Ambrose's soft ring work. Austin constantly references the way he used to "lay in" his strikes and bring a tenacity to his moves, but he didn't want to directly call him out.)
- "Artistically, Brock didn't want to do anything." lmao, that's my Brock. Get your money, don't do anything, still be better than anyone on the roster.
I think it's a more interesting interview when reading between the lines. Sure Dean goes off on scripted promos or whatever, but the clash of personalities here is great.
- Dean clearly does not want to dig through his old dirty laundry, and Austin pressing him on it for a little too long brought a lot to the interview. There's definitely a sob story there, but Dean ain't having it and has built up a wall of slight loner tendencies and (over?) confidence to compensate, neither of which are necessarily a negative.
- Dean opened up a lot more after that when the discussion shifted to wrestling, and went on decently long monologues and rants that help to put a lot of what we see into context. He's obviously a wrestling geek at heart and takes The Business™ seriously in some ways, but his upbringing and personality are at odds with that part of him. You can also start to see Austin get a little frustrated at his inability to pin down what Dean Ambrose is and how his mind works.
- Then the real interesting part of the interview: Austin prodding Ambrose to make sure he reaches his potential. I genuinely think Ambrose was offended when Austin said he's been resting on his laurels a bit, but similar to the story Ambrose told about the producer saying something that he never forgot, he reverted back to his tendencies and internalized the whole thing, refusing to give Austin the energy or response he wanted. If Dean ever fires back, it'll be in the ring. (although I also think part of what Austin was referring to was Ambrose's soft ring work. Austin constantly references the way he used to "lay in" his strikes and bring a tenacity to his moves, but he didn't want to directly call him out.)
- "Artistically, Brock didn't want to do anything." lmao, that's my Brock. Get your money, don't do anything, still be better than anyone on the roster.
I think it's a more interesting interview when reading between the lines. Sure Dean goes off on scripted promos or whatever, but the clash of personalities here is great.
The problem with that interview was the difference of styles (listen to Ambrose on Jericho's podcast which is closer to Ambrose's style), Austin trying to get info on Ambrose's past which he didn't want, Austin having a blueprint to go by rather than being able to shoot the shit like his normal podcast and Ambrose's chill style. I know dudes like that. They're just always like that. Austin is more rapid fire and with a time limit they don't work well. Ambrose was himself out of kayfabe. That's how he always acts in these interviews when he's being real. He's not drunk or high, that's him.
As for the ending part, we will see a new Ambrose now. Even before that Ambrose said he was going to turn it up. Now with Austin's advice he's more fired up than ever. Can't wait to see SD tomorrow.
Great interview.
As for the ending part, we will see a new Ambrose now. Even before that Ambrose said he was going to turn it up. Now with Austin's advice he's more fired up than ever. Can't wait to see SD tomorrow.
Great interview.
PHOENIXZERO
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That was the worst post current brand split Raw from the awful opening segment to the wedding shit that went on for what felt like an hour, Lana looking hot didn't save it. Other stuff happened I guess. I'm sure there was good stuff too but I'm too damn tired to remember it.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Austin out for blood and a more open interview.
Brock being the reason the 'Mania match sucked sure explains a lot. So much wasted potential, smh.
That's the arm he had that bicep injury with, right? Explains why it looks kinda messed up.
Austin out for blood and a more open interview.
Brock being the reason the 'Mania match sucked sure explains a lot. So much wasted potential, smh.
YA DIDN'T SELL THE DDT SON
GAH DANG YA NEED MORE FIRE IN YER COMEBACK
WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO INSTEAD OF BEING A PROFESSIONAL
blackaroni
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From coli:
He did a tour in Puerto Rico and lost half his body weight while barely eating and doings mountains of drugs. When he came back to America he thankfully sobered up cos otherwise boy would be dead.
People talk about WWE not having interesting charismatic drug addled wife beating carnies anymore like back in the glory days but Dean is that (minus the wife beating so far) but THAT'S NOT WHAT THE WWE IS LOOKING FOR ANYMORE.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Ambrose's hair looks nicer when dry. When it's wet I can't stop thinking his hairline is receding. It's not Baron Corbin levels of "dude, please just shave bald" but still hard to not notice. I know it doesn't fit the character and well he'd lose a nickname if he did it but I wish he'd go back to slicking it back like he did during his Shield days.
Discotheque
Banned
From coli:
lol, saved. coli always coming through.
AmazingFrom coli:
Sooo if i hear Ambrose i would swear the guy is so talented and is giving sooo much but he's been limited by the laziness around him right ?? lol..
How many matches did i see where this guy was doing nothing and being carried by someone else..
The Lesnar match was bad cause he's just not tough enough to make us believe he will punish Lesnar at any point. It should have been the other story, where he was surviving. Even that horrible match with Jericho was only saved in the end by Jericho going the higher level in intensity.
Ambrose is like anti wrestling.
How many matches did i see where this guy was doing nothing and being carried by someone else..
The Lesnar match was bad cause he's just not tough enough to make us believe he will punish Lesnar at any point. It should have been the other story, where he was surviving. Even that horrible match with Jericho was only saved in the end by Jericho going the higher level in intensity.
Ambrose is like anti wrestling.
The AJ matches with Jericho sucked tbh
When AJ can't take you to at least a 3 and a quarter star match you got issues.
Not to lessen the blame on Ambrose for that travesty of a match though.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
The Lesnar match was bad because we were told it was a no holds barred street fight hyped up with Ambrose getting all sorts of weapons teased. In the end it barely left the ring and we got chairs and a stick. Nothing more. The match could have been a fun weapon spotfest which would be how Ambrose could get on even level with Brock but judging by that interview, Brock was having none of that. I'm not gonna blame Ambrose for being pissed off over it.
They had to go an extra 10-15 minutes 'cause a McMahon segment got cut. That extra time really showed how painful the match was as they had to drag it out.
Y2J has possible matches with AJ.
He had an all time shit show with Dean.
Like when Dean jumps off the cage for no reason
Austin is definitely challenging for Arn's title of King of the Disappointed Dad look
Fair enough. It was an inexcusable abomination of a match.
Fair enough. It was an inexcusable abomination of a match.
mariachi507
Member
Man oh man, raw was awful last night.
31GhostsIV
Banned
I'm a bit out of touch with the wrasslin' these days, and the G1 has passed me by completely this year. Have I missed anything of note? Any G1 matches worth viewing to catch up?
avengers23
Banned
Could Boots, Empyrean Heaven, or anyone post the list of essential matches from the G1? I'm going to make an effort to catch up this week.
Here's a nice list thanks to voicesofwrestling.com. I've bolded the ones I think are exceptional standouts but all the matches are well worth checking out.
Night 1 (July 18): Naomichi Marufuji vs. Kazuchika Okada (****1/2)
Night 1 (July 18): SANADA vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (****1/2)
Night 1 (July 18): Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Tomohiro Ishii (****)
Night 4 (July 24): Tetsuya Naito vs Michael Elgin (****1/4)
Night 5 (July 25): Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Naomichi Marufuji (****)
Night 7 (July 28): Tomohiro Ishii vs Naomichi Marufuji (****1/4)
Night 8 (July 30): YOSHI-HASHI vs EVIL ****
Night 8 (July 30): Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Yuji Nagata (****)
Night 8 (July 30): Michael Elgin vs. Kenny Omega (****1/2)
Night 8 (July 30): Katsuyori Shibata vs. Tetsuya Naito (****)
Night 10 (August 1): Tetsuya Naito vs. Tomoaki Honma (****)
Night 10 (August 1): Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tomohiro Ishii
Night 11 (August 3): Naomichi Marufuji vs. SANADA (****)
Night 12 (August 4): Michael Elgin vs YOSHI-HASHI (****)
Night 12 (August 4): Tetsuya Naito vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima (****)
Night 13 (August 6) Hirooki Goto vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan (****)
Night 13 (August 6) Tomohiro Ishii vs Kazuchika Okada (****1/2)
Night 13 (August 6) Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Naomichi Marufuji (****1/2)
Night 14 (August 7) Tetsuya Naito vs. EVIL (****)
http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1490
31GhostsIV
Banned
In Boots we trust. I look forward to catching up.
Do they still have the lame house show single camera shows for some of the rounds this year? Those productions didn't do the ringwork any justice.
EDIT: Thanks Klonere, I look forward to digging in this evening...
Who's likely to win? Apart from the always likely Tanadough, I mean. Naito's year?
It's down to Tana, Naito and Marufuji in my mind. I think on Friday its all down to whether Tana wins or loses his match, everybody else is relying on that to get through in the A Block.
31GhostsIV
Banned
It really wouldn't surprise me if Tana/Okada headlines Wrestle kingdom until the day one of them dies.
Looking forward to my catch up session, cheers again.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Creative being heavy handed with demon Finn.
avengers23
Banned
Thanks for the list. If there are any other matches from this year's G1 that must be seen, please feel free to suggest.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
So now that NMSis shipping and the insane fans are now getting angry, what would be the wrestling equivalent?
I think Dean is putting in his best work since the early Shield days since he won the title so I can understand why he was taken aback by the complacency accusation. Shit, dude helped make Dolph Ziggler look interesting last week. Dolph Ziggler! I would have understood that if this interview happened while he was toiling away in pointless midcard feuds but not now.
Overall I thought the interview was fine once it shifted to wrestling. Dean obviously isn't comfortable talking about his personal life and former demons so Austin shouldn't have prodded him so much on it.
People that watch wrestling.
Yup, totally agree. Once it went into wrestling it was a great watch.
slightconfuse
Banned
Another Ishii mvp run in the G1. Guy needs a pity run with the title
The Elite
BOSS
I thought he was a bit stiff but it's obvious the crowd likes him a lot more when he's not being pushed to the moon. This Rusev feud is right for him.
Haha...