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Aurora Theater Shooter Trial To Finally Begin

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DrForester

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/23/aurora-theater-shooting/26256359/

CENTENNIAL, Colo. — Nearly three years after police arrested James Holmes outside a suburban Denver movie theater where he shot and killed 12 people, prosecutors are set to lay out why they believe jurors should order his execution.

Opening arguments begin Monday afternoon in the slow-moving case against Holmes, who is also accused of injuring about 70 others as he rampaged through the movie theater during a midnight showing of The Dark Night Returns. Holmes, a former neuroscience graduate student, has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, and defense lawyers argue he was in the grips of a psychotic episode when he entered the theater and opened fire.


Prosecutors are expected to argue that Holmes planned and prepared for weeks if not months, accumulating ammunition, practicing with his weapons, and building explosives that he used to booby-trap his apartment.


Exactly what evidence and arguments will be made have remained largely a secret thanks to a gag order dropped on the case within hours of Holmes' arrest. Under Colorado law, the same 12-member jury that will decide Holmes' guilt or innocence also will decide whether he should be executed if he's convicted.

Barry Slotnick, a New York-based defense lawyer famed for defending clients such as subway shooter Bernhard Goetz, casino magnate Steve Wynn, and former Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, said the stakes could not be higher in this case. The pressure on both sides will be intense.

"The death penalty is extreme as you can get," he said.

The trial is expected to last as long as four months, as prosecutors call potentially hundreds of witnesses from police officers to first responders in their efforts to prove the more than 150 charges Holmes faces. The charges include one count of murder with deliberation and one count of murder with extreme indifference for each person killed.

Holmes' parents say their son suffers from mental illness and previously begged prosecutors to agree to a plea deal that would see him locked up for life and spared execution. Prosecutors declined, saying they believe only his death can bring justice for the victims and their loved ones.

"In this case, for James Egan Holmes, justice is death," District Attorney George Brauchler said in April 2013.

Holmes has undergone two formal — and still confidential — mental-health evaluations. His mental health will play a central role in the trial, but prosecutors, defense attorneys and Judge Carlos A. Samour Jr. all have warned jurors that they'll see terrible photos and videos and hear harrowing stories of death, loss and injury.

The court will make mental-health counseling available to jurors following the trial.


"They're in for a rough ride," said Max Wachtel, a Denver psychologist and mental-health consultant for KUSA-TV. "They're going to have a really hard time with this."


One of Wachtel's then-students, Alex Teves, was killed in the shooting while shielding his girlfriend from gunfire.

At a January 2013 preliminary hearing, prosecutors presented seemingly overwhelming evidence that showed Holmes methodically planning his July 20, 2012, attack at Aurora's Century 16 theater complex. He bought an assault rifle, shotgun, two semiautomatic pistols, more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition, bomb-making material and other gear for nearly two months before the shootings.

Photos from his cellphone showed he had staked out the rear of the theater and exit doors before the shootings. Aurora police arrested Holmes in the rear of the theater parking lot minutes after the attack.

Holmes' demeanor and appearance have changed since the attack. When arrested, he had bright orange hair and wore a red jail jumpsuit to court appearances. But to avoid tainting the jury, the judge has permitted Holmes to wear street clothes — usually a button-down shirt and khaki pants — to court.

His hair appears to have returned to its natural red-brown color, and he wears reddish tortoiseshell glasses and occasionally interacts with his defense team. Unseen by jurors, Holmes will be shackled to the floor for security reasons.

"You have to keep an open mind throughout the trial, remembering that Mr. Holmes is presumed innocent," Samour told the jury after it was sworn in earlier this month. "Folks, we are depending on you to uphold the oath you have taken."

Scott Robinson, a prominent Denver defense lawyer who has watched the case closely, said the trial likely will provide some answers, including about the kind of mental-health care Holmes had before the shooting and what might have been done to prevent the carnage.

"We will learn a lot about why," Robinson said. "We won't be able to understand it, I guarantee."


While not mentioned in this story, it was just announced on our local news that the judge has rejected one final attempt by the defense for a change of venue.

Also worth noting that even if he receives death penalty, he likely will not be executed anytime soon as our current Governor has no interest in dealing with the death penalty. He won't commute the death sentence, he'll just likely issue an indefinite delay until he's out of office as he did with one death row inmate who was to have been executed a few years ago.


Trial will be streams:

Here's two links. I think they are all streaming the same video feed, and there is no commentary so it doesn't really matter which you watch.

http://www.9news.com/videos/news/local/2014/07/07/5993325/ <- NBC affiliate
http://kdvr.com/2015/04/28/theater-shooting-trial-live-1st-day-of-witness-testimony/ <-Fox Affiliate
 

OctoMan

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Seems like him, hernandez, and tsarnaev took fucking forever to get to trial. And his hasn't even started. Come on.
 

Volimar

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I don't think the governor would have many qualms about this guy getting the axe, but it's moot. It'd likely take years anyway and it'll likely be a different governor by then.
 

DrForester

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I don't think the governor would have many qualms about this guy getting the axe, but it's moot. It'd likely take years anyway and it'll likely be a different governor by then.

I'm annoyed about him delaying Dunlap's execution. I'd honestly have a lot more respect for him if he commuted the sentence to life in prison if he is against it, rather than his really pathetic "Let the next guy deal with it" attitude. He says he has questions about if Colorado's death penalty is fair. It's not like we're in Texas, executing people every other day. Colorado has had four people on death row since 1977, only one of which has been executed. And there's zero question of guilt in the other three cases.
 
The jury will decide if he's executed or not once found guilty?

Is that normal in America? You would think a judge decides the sentence when a verdict is reached
 

Mohonky

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I don't think the governor would have many qualms about this guy getting the axe, but it's moot. It'd likely take years anyway and it'll likely be a different governor by then.

That is kind of his expression though. Dude doesn't look entirely there.
 
First day of trial was yesterday with opening statements.

Prosecutors revealed that two court-appointed psychiatrists both found that Holmes was sane when he opened fire, chasing moviegoers up and down the aisles, shooting at them when they tried to flee.

Holmes sat quietly throughout the first day, harnessed to the floor by a cable that ran through his pants leg.

Subdued and emotionless, his demeanor never changed, even as District Attorney George Brauchler showed jurors photos of his victims &#8212; two active-duty servicemen, a single mom, a man celebrating his 27th birthday, and an aspiring broadcaster who had survived a mall shooting in Toronto, and a 6-year-old girl whose pregnant mother lost her baby and was paralyzed.

"Through this door is horror," Brauchler told jurors, showing them a photo of the open back door of the theater, the ground bloodied by wounded, escaping victims.

Holmes has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. His defense hopes jurors will agree and have him indefinitely committed to a mental institution.

Prosecutors say he was sane and should be executed.

Defense attorneys countered that Holmes suffers from schizophrenia, thought Barack Obama was communicating with him through winks and nods in public speeches and held a bizarre theory that each life he took would somehow add to his own value. Behind bars, he sprinted into a wall while naked, cowered under a blanket and sucked his thumb and cried.

First witness testimony is today (Tuesday).
 

Hankodank

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Thanks for the update MachoMadness.

Defense attorneys countered that Holmes suffers from schizophrenia, thought Barack Obama was communicating with him through winks and nods in public speeches and held a bizarre theory that each life he took would somehow add to his own value. Behind bars, he sprinted into a wall while naked, cowered under a blanket and sucked his thumb and cried.

I understand that schizophrenia is a serious illness - and I have very little first-hand experience dealing with people that suffer from said illness - but doesn't the "Behind bars.." part seems a little theatrical? Sort of like, I need to do some crazy s**t if the insanity plea is going to stick.

I'd love to read thoughts from folks on here that have more experience/knowledge on schizophrenia...
 

DrForester

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If he was crazy, why did the defense try to make a plea deal for life in prison? They didn't pitch the crazy defense till after that was rejected.
 

Hankodank

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honestly if for some reason he gets found innocent, holy shit

why did it take so long for this to start

I don't think his innocence is even a matter of contention at this point.
Defense isn't going to argue his innocence in so far as the killings go; they're going for institutionalization over death penalty.
 
Wonder if they got a change of venue. Seems hard to fathom that they'd be able to get an impartial jury in Aurora.

Not that I really care, guy needs to shuffle off this mortal coil.
 

Eyeron

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He deserves to die, IMO, but I'd rather see him fester in ADX solitary for the remainder of his life. Good luck with the insanity claim. The amount of preparation involved is staggering. Piece of shit booby trapped his apartment with a potentially fatal device and cranked up the music, hoping that a neighbor would come around. Hope he rots.
 

DrForester

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Wonder if they got a change of venue. Seems hard to fathom that they'd be able to get an impartial jury in Aurora.

Not that I really care, guy needs to shuffle off this mortal coil.

The defense tried a few times. The Judge explanation was that in this day and age everyone has access to the information, making a change of venue a bit pointless.

Also the Trial is being held in Arapahoe County Court, so it's not just Aurora citizens.
 

DrForester

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you never know man, stupid insanity plea

he is guilty and should rot in jail but like i said, this trail should have happened ages ago, why the delay


Lots and lots of defense motions and several psych exams delayed it. I think the Defense was caught unprepared when the prosecution rejected their life in prison plea.
 

The Llama

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The jury will decide if he's executed or not once found guilty?

Is that normal in America? You would think a judge decides the sentence when a verdict is reached

Yeah, for death penalty cases it is. Normally the judge decides the sentence but you need a jury to decide whether someone gets the death penalty or not.
 

RiZ III

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He knew exactly what he was doing. The asshole planned it for a while, wore full body armor, and even dyed his hair to stand out.
 

Westonian

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The DA was never going to accept a plea, even if just to save time and money. It would have been political suicide given the emotions surrounding the case. Plus this is about as easy a slam dunk as you'll ever see from the prosecution.
 
Lots and lots of defense motions and several psych exams delayed it. I think the Defense was caught unprepared when the prosecution rejected their life in prison plea.
The defense has been delaying the trial since the beginning as their sole job is to save the life of the defendant. Every day that it takes to move forward is another day their defendant is alive.
 

Hankodank

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I still don't get how he was arrested unharmed.

Argument A: Cops are better trained to exercise restraint in Aurora, CO.

Argument B: He lacks the umm..."proper amount of skin pigmentation" that is commonly associated with the use of excessive force.
 

Raxus

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He had perfectly natural and normal interactions with others leading right up to the day of the murders. He might be insane now, but he wasn't then.

Defense is going to go hard on the insanity plea and testimony should bring to light his mental state up to the shootings. If the psychiatrists findings hold up then it should be a slam dunk for the prosecutors.
 

Mimosa97

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Sounds like a person who literally gives zero shits about human life and is literally incapable of having those shits in the first place.

Feeling no remorse or emotions in general, I guess.
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First time I hear about this. It doesn't exist in the laws of my country. Is this some new addition to american law after all those shootings occurred ?


Thank you for the link :)

I don't know, and I don't care.

I got you.
 
The defense tried a few times. The Judge explanation was that in this day and age everyone has access to the information, making a change of venue a bit pointless.

Also the Trial is being held in Arapahoe County Court, so it's not just Aurora citizens.

Uh... isn't this bad and could set a really bad precedent? Even if everyone has seen all the reporting done about it, the Aurora jurors are much more likely to act with their emotions rather than logically. For this case specifically, I don't think it matters much, but the precedent it sets is worrying.
 

Tenebrous

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Doesnt matter if he has schizophrenia. America wants it's blood and it will get it no matter what.

Which is wrong, in my opinion.

I know he's guilty of unbelievable atrocities, but he shouldn't be executed if he's genuinely insane. Hopefully the right decision is made, whatever that may be.
 
The defense tried a few times. The Judge explanation was that in this day and age everyone has access to the information, making a change of venue a bit pointless.

Also the Trial is being held in Arapahoe County Court, so it's not just Aurora citizens.

That's some BS reasoning. Though everyone knows about the incident, Aurora residents are the only ones that were directly affected by it. Even if the jurors don't have a direct connection to anyone that was injured or killed in the shooting, just living in the same town where something like that happens colors your opinion of it much more strongly than someone who hears everything from TV/Internet news. Trial should be held elsewhere.

Not that it would change anything in the outcome of course, but things should be done right.
 

bathsalts

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Didn't he just give himself up?

He surrendered without resistance and was actually mistaken for a swat member or something because of his attire iirc. Police probably couldn't even see the colour of his skin but I'm sure there will several complacent fools to step up and make it a race issue, ignoring all context of the situation and the thread which is about his trial and an insanity defense not to mention several orbiting issues such as America's neglect of mental disease, gun control and what the fuck causes someone to open fire in a damn movie theater.
 
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