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Oh man it's like Survivor.
Yes it is indeed.
AND
Remember beazley vs rudd?
Beazley according to the media was goign to romp it based on comments from MPs
Rudd destroyed him
if Rudd really really wants this job, he does the following
Challenges today and stipulates if he loses he wil lresign from parliament thus losing the labor majority
So many MPs would flip based on that i think. Some might also go the other way and call his bluff. But i can't see rudd sitting in the backbench, i just can't
not true, last newspoll, Abbott was ahead 40 - 37
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2012/02/13/newspoll-55-45-to-coalition-3/
its a moot point, they're both hated but oppositions don't win elections. Its usually a choice between the lesser of two evils.
Labor can't win an election unless their primary vote can be lifted to around 40 percent which is a marathon away atm.
the most telling sign is in queensland.
I think their primary vote was down to 23 percent last year and Kevin rudd would be the only mp standing in the entire state if that poll came true.
yet he can only garner the support of 3 votes (including his own) out of 13
fucking politicians >_<
OneMoreQuestion
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It got to brisbane quicker! Mine is currently Departed Facility in SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 12:22, sooooo it actually might not make it for delivery today
Your psn is the one in your profile? I'll add you tonight, hopefully on a vita
Yep, that's my PSN. I gave DHL a ring and the said that the odds of me receiving it today are slim to nil D:
EDIT: 5 minutes after the DHL guy convinced me, twice, that my parcel wasn't going to arrive today...
With delivery courier BRISBANE - AUSTRALIA 12:40
So yeah.
If the current numbers are to be believed its going to be 29 - 68 in favour of Gilard with 6 undecided.
According to SMH. How they got those numbers i'm not sure, its getting changed all the time.
SERIOUS SAM 3 is $13 on Steam.
It has 16 player online coop.
Everyone should buy this so we can play it over the weekend. It is a fantastic game.
Kritz SS3 Coop Settings:
Friendly Fire On
Infinite Lives
Infinite Ammo
200% Enemy Health
Enemies Scale per Player
How to play SS3 with Kritz Settings:
Press W
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It has 16 player online coop.
Everyone should buy this so we can play it over the weekend. It is a fantastic game.
Kritz SS3 Coop Settings:
Friendly Fire On
Infinite Lives
Infinite Ammo
200% Enemy Health
Enemies Scale per Player
How to play SS3 with Kritz Settings:
Press W
Press left mouse
Get Killed by Friendly Fire
I think newspoll is going to make a special concession and release their results on monday morning (rather than at night as usual)
Also Nielsen might have a result on sunday.
It'll be interesting to see how stupid the Labor party really is if Rudd still has support in the community.
Also Nielsen might have a result on sunday.
It'll be interesting to see how stupid the Labor party really is if Rudd still has support in the community.
OneMoreQuestion
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Let me know if you guys are gonna schedule a SS3 co-op fest, single player isn't doing anything for me.
Except why does it matter?
He has run a campaign to destabalise the government since he lost power, and he lost power for a reason, it wasnt the 'faceless men' it was 90% of the caucus.
It isnt, and shouldnt be, a popularity contest, because that popularity doesnt mean that the primary vote will rise all of a sudden.
It was the polls that scared them into ditching Rudd to begin with, he had lost QLD prior to being dumped and they were looking at losing the election.
Its a team game, not a one man show.
Not for the leadership of the party. You dont turn the tables over everytime a bad opinion poll comes out.
If Kevin wins, it will be a disaster, he needs to lose, and lose by so much that he cant even think of a 'comeback'. And if he resigns? Then it pretty much proves the point.
If Kevin wins, it will be a disaster, he needs to lose, and lose by so much that he cant even think of a 'comeback'. And if he resigns? Then it pretty much proves the point.
exactly ....and that is what happened.
the source of labor's woes.
Gillard is tainted fruit because of the way they got rid of a sitting prime minister.
the only way they can get out of this hole is to convince the electorate that they've made a mistake.
Not by being proud and staying the course.
Not by going the NSW route and installing a 3rd candidate.
They have to show remorse.
and its not just one bad opinion poll. its been going on for more than a year. Ask any pollster and they will say that hatred for gillard is concrete. Its not going to change.
Marshmellow
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Ask yourself, work choices aside where we better off under Howard or the Rudd/Gilard government?
Be honest now.
This post is coming from someone that voted Labour at the 2007 election.
Then this team will lose the next election to Tony Abott without Rudd.
then they should have let him go to the election and fall on his face.
Labor would have been better off.
Lindsay Tanner, their best minister resigned in disgust. Julia Gillard, a top performer too now tainted.
It is such an epic fail that movies will be made about it in 30 years.
It tells me that he's a douche but that the team is a bunch of idiots too.
I always got the impression the team had their egos bruised by him or something. Most of their complaints seem to be about him well.... actually leading. but i dunno
Star tracks phone holding is super annoying. Every 10 seconds or so you get a, thank you for holding - we look forward to assisting you and appreciate your patience. Every 10 seconds, it might even be sooner.
It's got to be the most annoying thing on the planet. Maybe it's designed to get people to just hang the fuck up after she says the message after the 5th time.
It's got to be the most annoying thing on the planet. Maybe it's designed to get people to just hang the fuck up after she says the message after the 5th time.
I think Rudd would lose the next election. You don't think his personal brand has been tarnished enough at this point? You'll basically have senior Labor MPs campaigning against their own party if Rudd is in charge.
The fact that so many of them seemingly are pushing aside personal ambition just to get rid of Rudd says everything you need to know.
I mean, politicians pushing aside personal ambition.
The fact that so many of them seemingly are pushing aside personal ambition just to get rid of Rudd says everything you need to know.
I mean, politicians pushing aside personal ambition.
i'm down with some SS3 co-op if someone would add me to the steam group (steam name: wonzo)
we're much better off without howard.
as slimy as he is, rudd is realistically the best chance the ALP has in beating abbott in an election (almost every major polling outfit has reflected this in their polling).
If it's a team game, not a one-man show, then the team should suck it the fuck up and deal.
i think it says more about the self importance and greed of the labor power brokers putting their obsession with holding onto power over what's best for the labor movement. the fact that john faulkner's backing rudd says quite a lot about this whole thing.
may well be true. Rudd is no sure thing......
but I think that he will make it competitive which is alot better for the party than the current situation (which is of Labor being in the wilderness for another decade).
He can nullify the attacks of his enemies by positioning himself as the reformist.
Similar to what happened to Peter Beattie: It was found that elements within his party were corrupt yet he still won the 2001 election by cleaning ship.
Labor has to choose: the status quo where factions can knock off sitting prime ministers or a new more inclusive party.
roosters93
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I'll be up for that, should be around all of Saturday day time.
it didn't cause this shitfight....but I think that newspoll you posted is old.....
http://www.newspoll.com.au/cgi-bin/...caller=latest&state=Any&mode=file&page=Search
31th of january.....
there was another a couple of weeks ago which doesn't seem to be up there.
http://www.newspoll.com.au/cgi-bin/...caller=latest&state=Any&mode=file&page=Search
31th of january.....
there was another a couple of weeks ago which doesn't seem to be up there.
Kevin back in the cuntry?
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