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Planet_JASE
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Miiverse designed to help people that run headlong into enemies.
"What do I do??? Every time I run into him I die! Help, Miiverse!"
Thank you, Nintendo!
"What do I do??? Every time I run into him I die! Help, Miiverse!"
Thank you, Nintendo!
viciouskillersquirrel
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Woo! GAF is back up!
I have a memory like an elephant... or something.
Edit: So Nintendo is announcing things in a conference that is before its conference to announce things?
reptilescorpio
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lol NeoGAF.
Epic bought Big Huge Games. BEST NEWS EVA!
Looks like a dead on replication of the 360 controller form which is fantastic! Best controller ever and services every age group. The sticks above the buttons though is a bad choice, will have to wait and see how it feels. Dpad looks a bit worrying too.
They did the right thing though, hopefully it is a pack in otherwise 3rd parties may worry about take up.
Also great idea to announce all this and then leave the conference for showing it in action with some games. Best way to make the most of it.
Epic bought Big Huge Games. BEST NEWS EVA!
Looks like a dead on replication of the 360 controller form which is fantastic! Best controller ever and services every age group. The sticks above the buttons though is a bad choice, will have to wait and see how it feels. Dpad looks a bit worrying too.
They did the right thing though, hopefully it is a pack in otherwise 3rd parties may worry about take up.
Also great idea to announce all this and then leave the conference for showing it in action with some games. Best way to make the most of it.
Nintendo is just showing off the Wii U and the basic idea behind it along with what it can do.
I didn't mind the 30 minute presentation. The typical white guy was fucking idiotic and just embarrassing but that sorta shit is what E3 is about.
The only thing I dislike is the bubble comments while you're in game, dying, on the screen for the mario map etc.
Everything else looked solid and well thought out. The MiiVerse seems interesting although probably pointless at the end of the day. Nintendo reinventing twitter is a good idea for friends lists.
It's still a shame it's probably going to be a weak console compared to next years offerings from sony and MS. If it had been more powerful and gotten mad support from 3rd parties, I couldn't see the point in owning a PS4 or 720 unless you wanted specific exclusives.
Now we wait for the games and how they look. Then the comparison shots to current gen consoles along with gifs and outrage. Dis E3 gunna be good.
I didn't mind the 30 minute presentation. The typical white guy was fucking idiotic and just embarrassing but that sorta shit is what E3 is about.
The only thing I dislike is the bubble comments while you're in game, dying, on the screen for the mario map etc.
Everything else looked solid and well thought out. The MiiVerse seems interesting although probably pointless at the end of the day. Nintendo reinventing twitter is a good idea for friends lists.
It's still a shame it's probably going to be a weak console compared to next years offerings from sony and MS. If it had been more powerful and gotten mad support from 3rd parties, I couldn't see the point in owning a PS4 or 720 unless you wanted specific exclusives.
Now we wait for the games and how they look. Then the comparison shots to current gen consoles along with gifs and outrage. Dis E3 gunna be good.
FallbackPants
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Yeah I do that too. It cuts out all the rubbish too.
So what was this Wii U online thing?
reptilescorpio
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Yeah I already turn that bullshit off on current games (like Twitter and Facebook integration) so that was a huge turn off for me.
I know other people will lap it up, Zynga style stuff, but that isn't what I am looking for in my games. I want to be immersed in the game, not reminded that it is just another licensed copy of a game that some other people are playing copies of too.
bodyboarder
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Yeah. I watched the first minute of the nintendo one and gave up.
Planet_JASE
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You missed the dramatised conceptualisation.
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tired
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Vita resistance didn't last long. Tried to sleep failed.
Buzz around Nintendo is HUGE right now, overheard a lot of people talking about it in the terminal
Basically feeling is Nintendo have just royally fucked sony and microsoft by going early and going direct to consumer rather then conf
conf wil ljust be games games games for ninty now, should be good.
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Vita resistance didn't last long. Tried to sleep failed.
Buzz around Nintendo is HUGE right now, overheard a lot of people talking about it in the terminal
Basically feeling is Nintendo have just royally fucked sony and microsoft by going early and going direct to consumer rather then conf
conf wil ljust be games games games for ninty now, should be good.
reptilescorpio
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That's awesome. Relieved.
I think it was a nice introduction and it stops them crapping on about the philosophy and other shit for 30 minutes. That way they can simply demo the machine, show off games, talk about the hardware along with getting our bodys ready for it's release later this year.
I now don't expect any megatons from Nintendo at E3. Unless they have some super secret exclusive 3rd party stuff to announce.
Best pad ever is the GC pad, so fingers crossed the pro controller has a good dpad and we can forget all about the abomination that is stuck on the 360 controller. Ruins an otherwise decent control pad.
Symmetric analog sticks is interesting and unexpected though. Might be an ergonomic decision.
Why?
Because it looks actually usable and decent. 360 dpad is poo, so its one less function you need to use. A working dpad just complicates things.
codswallop
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Could be worse, they could be in the same place as the ones on the Dual Shock.
I think the in-game messaging system on Wii U is going to be all sorts of horrible, if you can't control who the messages are from. However, seeing things like others' achievements/high scores/best times on each level, sort of like Burnout Paradise, on any game seems worthwhile to me.
Just waiting for Microsoft to allow people to bet their Gamerscore against each other on multiplayer games/challenges.
ClivePwned
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is Choc the only one at E3 this year?
I have a tip. Get there first thing on Day 1 of the show and after lining up and going through security, head DIRECTLY to the Nintendo booth to have a hands-on play with the Wii U. I'm going to predict really, REALLY long, multi-hour queues for that based on what happened in 2006 with the Wii.
I have a tip. Get there first thing on Day 1 of the show and after lining up and going through security, head DIRECTLY to the Nintendo booth to have a hands-on play with the Wii U. I'm going to predict really, REALLY long, multi-hour queues for that based on what happened in 2006 with the Wii.
I dont get the hate for dualshock. OK, the analog sticks are too loose, but ergonomically its fine. Dpad ruins fingers (or it did mine when learning tekken throw combos back in 96). I like a symmetric controller, but I also like good resistance in the sticks like GC controller. Which also has superior shape to hold too.
I can see the abxy placement might be a bit weird, but given my fingers already rest in a comfy spot over the face buttons, it makes some kind of sense to me at least. Maybe it might even make a good pad for southpaw gamers given it is a L-R mirror image?
Anyway, like all controllers it doesnt matter until you hold it and find out yourself what its like.
I can see one other problem:
Wii U: clockwise from top goes xaby
360 goes ybax
I think that will confuse a few people with games that have colour prompts on screen. Imagine if the Wii U controller returned to the old SNES colour mapping too. CoD would be competitive for a change.
I can see the abxy placement might be a bit weird, but given my fingers already rest in a comfy spot over the face buttons, it makes some kind of sense to me at least. Maybe it might even make a good pad for southpaw gamers given it is a L-R mirror image?
Anyway, like all controllers it doesnt matter until you hold it and find out yourself what its like.
I can see one other problem:
Wii U: clockwise from top goes xaby
360 goes ybax
I think that will confuse a few people with games that have colour prompts on screen. Imagine if the Wii U controller returned to the old SNES colour mapping too. CoD would be competitive for a change.
EatChildren
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The dual shock 3 is the most uncomfortable controller of the current generation. It's an ergonomic nightmare as far as I'm concerned. Both Microsoft and Nintendo produced controllers that melt to your hands. Sony made a lump of plastic with analogue sticks.
I do like their sticks though. Not where they're positioned, but the size and motion.
I do like their sticks though. Not where they're positioned, but the size and motion.
They showed off some online social stuff too. This summary does a decent job: http://www.push-start.co.uk/all/art...s-miiverse-and-the-concept-of-together-better
Built in tv remote functionality, curtains you can put up on the tv so you can browse to a video then surprise open the curtains for your friends!
Oh and an iOS app.
Nemesis_
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It's probably going to be web based, not a platform specific app.
FallbackPants
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Maybe I just have weirdly big hands, but I always feel like I'm daintily gripping the Dual Shock while the 360 controller fits into my hand better. That's pretty much my only point of difference though. Generally they are both good controllers.
And with the button layout, isn't that the same as the layout in the Nintendo-Sega days? I could be wrong but I thought the Xbox just copied the old Sega layouts?
The button layout (order of abxy) is different. See these two photos:
SNES had and Wii CC had the same layout too as the Wii U Pro. GC did too except for the odd shaped buttons.
For my money, the comfiest controller is still the wavebird. Dualshocks are fine but it always takes me a small adjustment time going from 360 to ps3 and back again. Neither are bad controllers (except for dpads and analog stick durability) though.
reptilescorpio
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The WiiU dpad just looks a little too recessed for my hands. Won't be able to tell until I get hands on impressions as I said. Just going by the released PR material it is something for me to look at in the future. The stick position is more of a worry.
I'm a big fan, I just ran through Max Payne 3 with it and had a blast. Only issue is I'm not as great with the sticks as the 360 one. Also I don't like the triggers, 360 ones are much better for my hands and accuracy. It has a worthwhile Dpad compared to the 360 too! I like the placement of the sticks on both controllers though, the main thing is having the aiming stick down the bottom as it is easier for me to bring my thumb UP to the buttons rather than going down to the buttons.
The dpad itself though is fine - its not a new design. Ignore its position (for now since its an unknown til you hold it). It's basically the same dpad as the wii classic controller/ccpro have. Which is leagues better than the 360/ps3 dpads. My assumption that the Wii u pro dpad is superior is based purely on this.
Obviously hands on time will make it clear or not, and as you say - positioning and the overall shape of the controller will have an impact.
Saturn dpad is still undefeated though.
Obviously hands on time will make it clear or not, and as you say - positioning and the overall shape of the controller will have an impact.
Saturn dpad is still undefeated though.
shanshan310
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If the size is comparable to the 360 controller, I'm going to have trouble reaching those waggle sticks =/
BananaArnie
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SOMEONE FIND ME JAMBO QUICK
Amazing they lasted this long really.
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