Elaugaufein
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The list of things you aren't allowed to be on Anzac Day is pretty long and pretty much identical to "Anything John Howard wouldn't like"
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The list of things you aren't allowed to be on Anzac Day is pretty long and pretty much identical to "Anything John Howard wouldn't like"
Candescence
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Meanwhile, Wespac Bank rules out financial support for new coal mines, further reducing the chances of Adani's proposed Carmichael mine going ahead due to an increasingly dwindling list of potential investors.
Adani's response is thinly-veiled seething rage.
One of the upsides of the state of the environment in this global political climate is that coal is dying and neither Trump nor Turnbull can do anything to save it.
Adani's response is thinly-veiled seething rage.
One of the upsides of the state of the environment in this global political climate is that coal is dying and neither Trump nor Turnbull can do anything to save it.
bobnowhere
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Your metadata will be safe with us they said...
The AFP has "accidentally" accessed the metadata of a Journalist without a warrant and still won't tell said journalist due to reasons.
At least they self-reported, late on a Friday afternoon, I suppose.
The AFP has "accidentally" accessed the metadata of a Journalist without a warrant and still won't tell said journalist due to reasons.
At least they self-reported, late on a Friday afternoon, I suppose.
Elaugaufein
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Your metadata will be safe with us they said...
The AFP has "accidentally" accessed the metadata of a Journalist without a warrant and still won't tell said journalist due to reasons.
At least they self-reported, late on a Friday afternoon, I suppose.
This is the kind of thing where it really shouldn't be technically possible for someone to access this data without a warrant or some kind of appropriate clearance / training (and thus culpability). LEOs and NatSec agencies have a long history of this shit which means it's something that is easily foreseen to happen.
Candescence
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Welp, due to incompetence as usual, One Nation risks de-registration in Queensland due a botched incorporation and non-compliant constitution, all because One Nation's top dogs wanted to avoid individual transparency and accountability:
Hahahahaha. On top of the shit they've gotten into concerning the plane that Four Corners revealed, this is delicious. If Hanson gets sent to jail again over these issues or something even worse, it'll be even more hilarious.
Hahahahaha. On top of the shit they've gotten into concerning the plane that Four Corners revealed, this is delicious. If Hanson gets sent to jail again over these issues or something even worse, it'll be even more hilarious.
Elaugaufein
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I don't think any of this would qualify for jail time unless it was done to defraud the state (eg taking electoral reimbursements while not being a valid party). It would just require them to reregister after fixing the issues at worst and it seems unlikely Queensland Labor would call an election soon enough for that to matter.
(Except maybe the plane but even then as long as things were paid back it doesn't seem likely except as a grudge thing given how often others get away with it).
I wondered if he would given all his rhetoric about it being a money sink and why he gutted it.
Fingers crossed.
Morrison has proclaimed victory in the housing affordability battle, the governments scalpel has worked!
http://www.smh.com.au/business/fede...-scalpel-already-working-20170501-gvw363.html
This achievement is especially impressive as they haven't released their budget yet!
http://www.smh.com.au/business/fede...-scalpel-already-working-20170501-gvw363.html
This achievement is especially impressive as they haven't released their budget yet!
But Labor's proposed NBN somehow *wasn't* "good debt".
Fuck off is right, and fuck all the people who voted these economic and social ignorami in.
I wonder if the Easter long weekend has anything to do with those results? No house sales during that weekend, maybe it affects the numbers somehow.
Anzac Day was basically a long weekend too.
It was the first drop in 18 months, so it covers a few other long weekends. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...-first-time-in-18-months-20170428-gvuezo.html
The changes from the regulators (APRA and ASIC, not sure who did what) are good and should have an affect. The idea of a ghost house tax seems like a good idea to me too. No need to downplay these things because of the partisan rhetoric it comes attached to.
bobnowhere
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I thought the meager/statistical noise drop in House prices was mostly the Banks realising the bubble could soon burst and dialing back interest only loans for investors? Good to know it was ScoMo on his own!
Nothing needs to be done about the 12x wage prices the highest or 2nd highest in the world, wage growth being stagnant, job growth mostly being from full-time to part-time/casual and an increase in education fees. Mission Accomplished.
Even Queensland is going 52-48 to the ALP, Mr Potato Head is getting itchy feet right about now as his seat is one of the first to go.
Nothing needs to be done about the 12x wage prices the highest or 2nd highest in the world, wage growth being stagnant, job growth mostly being from full-time to part-time/casual and an increase in education fees. Mission Accomplished.
Even Queensland is going 52-48 to the ALP, Mr Potato Head is getting itchy feet right about now as his seat is one of the first to go.
It was the regulators. So it's technically closer to the truth to say that it was ScoMo on his own than to say the free market magically started self regulating at the expense of short term profits.
Can we just enjoy the moment of the liberal party talking up regulation for a bit?
bobnowhere
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ScoMo also saying that Government can build better, cheaper infrastructure than private sector. I suspect he is talking about a certain rail line in Queensland that happens to go to a mine that no bank worldwide will touch but you never know!
Up is down, left is right, black is white... Might be the last hurrah for the wets.
Elaugaufein
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I suspect he's talking about the Melbourne to Brisbane railway the Nats really really want.
Just as with the US it seems people here are better going to Germany to get their degrees.
Anyone planning to check out John Safran's book on Australian extremists?
Also I've been reading a bit about the reactionary movement behind Trump and Brexit etc, and I had a shower thought that maybe the fact that our rural population is fairly small percentage wise that it might hit us less than the US? I haven't thought about that too hard though, and obviously the counterpoint is Queensland exists.
Also I've been reading a bit about the reactionary movement behind Trump and Brexit etc, and I had a shower thought that maybe the fact that our rural population is fairly small percentage wise that it might hit us less than the US? I haven't thought about that too hard though, and obviously the counterpoint is Queensland exists.
Aarglefarg
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I am currently reading Murder in Mississippi, John Safran's book about white nationalists and the investigation into a murder of one.
Aarglefarg
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I've only read one-seventh so far but the set up is interesting. Safran interviewed Richard Barrett, the white supremacist who was later murdered, and played a 'prank' on him for one of his TV series...but was forced to not broadcast it as Barrett threatened legal action. Barrett was also homophobic.
Then a year or so later, he was found dead and Vincent McGee (a black man who worked for Barrett) confessed and claimed gay panic upon Barrett making an advance.
But now in the book Safran is interviewing another supremacist who knew Barrett and hopefully that pays off since that part isn't too interesting insightful so far.
I think that's a pretty common theory, especially as the US electoral system is highly gerrymandered in favour of rural areas. Look at almost any country (France and Russia spring to mind) and there will almost always be a divide between the urban and rural populations. We're lucky that ours is so centralised.
Way too centralised imo. But then I'm not a capital city dweller, and for the most part like most others are totally annoyed by how folks outside the capital cities are ignored. Its probably part of why I'd probably rather see the states done away with in favour of regional councils.
Of course that probably would be tough on some regions providing services.
Candescence
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Well, we're centralised because most of the damn country is desert, to be fair. Terraforming can't come fast enough.
Elaugaufein
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Also we never really did anything that much works in medium population centres. We've always relied on primary industry and/or service industries. Neither have much use for well distributed medium sized population centres. Admittedly with first world manufacturing going all to hell, this has been something of a good thing so far.
Well if we're not employing them we might as well not train them either #innovationnation
Elaugaufein
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So this is what they mean by a spiral of decay.
Marx would agree apparently. I just came across this from the Communist Manifesto about the positives of capitalism: "The bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life."
My bolding obviously.
bobnowhere
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ftfy
Hope you enjoyed your dogpile!
Elaugaufein
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Yup, when it comes to farmers and graziers they make Labor look like Anarcho-Capitalists. But only when mining and gas isn't on the other side for some reason (money, the reason is money).
bobnowhere
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And Turnbull heartily congratulated him on destroying the ACA and replacing it with Ryan/Trumpcare which hangs out the elderly and those with preexisting conditions to dry. Now Obamacare was pretty crappy, probably the best he could do, but the replacement is half-arsed at best.
And Turnbull heartily congratulated him on destroying the ACA and replacing it with Ryan/Trumpcare which hangs out the elderly and those with preexisting conditions to dry. Now Obamacare was pretty crappy, probably the best he could do, but the replacement is half-arsed at best.
He just wrote Labors entire electoral ad campaign yeah.
bobnowhere
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Cory's suffering from Media Attention Deficit Disorder (MADD) now that he is on the crossbench.
What Cory doesn't realise is that the story was whether the maverick sentator was going to try and bring down the government from within not what he actually said. Now that he's on his own, no one but the angry ranty white man radio/TV actually give a shit about him.
What Cory doesn't realise is that the story was whether the maverick sentator was going to try and bring down the government from within not what he actually said. Now that he's on his own, no one but the angry ranty white man radio/TV actually give a shit about him.
That's actually pretty funny now I think of it. AHCA is basically "let them eat cake" in health care bill form and Turnbull, whose party is fighting off accusations of wanting to guy Medicare?
Really not the best optics, especially after your previous cabinet smoked cigars after pushing their budget through.
Elaugaufein
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Cory timed things really badly. Hanson is effectively sucking up all non-major party attention, and she can be relied on for every eyeball grabber Cory can, the only point they differ on is that Hanson is canny enough (after a little prompting) to pretend she doesn't share most of Cory's economic policy which is appealing to no one except the intersection​ of the super rich and sociopath circles on a Venn diagram.
He's also fighting with Abbott for formerly important Liberal chucking bombs at current Liberal leader and a former leader / PM will always win that one.
He's completely redundant anywhere he's not actively hurting his chances to be relevant. He jumped to late, if he'd gone independent in 2013 and rode the Conservative wave in, he might be in Hanson's position now but it would have been death or glory.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1370143
are other country's voting systems that bad they can't even be bothered protest voting, or is that just general human nature?
UK going to hell in a handbasket and people still being like 'why vote, what'll it do'? I live in the north shore, the liberal stronghold from now until eternity, and i still throw my votes at the local greenies if for no other reason than to let the blues know one stubborn dumbass here isn't happy with their shit
/edit i do understand that thanks to runoff voting we don't actually have that bad a system when it comes to 'wasting votes' tho
are other country's voting systems that bad they can't even be bothered protest voting, or is that just general human nature?
UK going to hell in a handbasket and people still being like 'why vote, what'll it do'? I live in the north shore, the liberal stronghold from now until eternity, and i still throw my votes at the local greenies if for no other reason than to let the blues know one stubborn dumbass here isn't happy with their shit
/edit i do understand that thanks to runoff voting we don't actually have that bad a system when it comes to 'wasting votes' tho
Elaugaufein
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The UK voting system is super fucked because people vote like they have a preferential system when its FPTP. Seats and government can be won with below 40% of the vote or with the clear majority going to the other side of politics. Watching the Libs win with 26% of the vote due to a 25/25/24 Democrat / Labor / Green split would make me want to throw myself of a cliff too. The your votes genuinely irrelevant seats are nice by comparison since you're at least knocking points of margins and still count for our proportional systems.
Aarglefarg
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And they had that referendum in 2011 to change it...but it failed with 67.9% of voters going with keeping FPTP.
Elaugaufein
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And they had that referendum in 2011 to change it...but it failed with 67.9% of voters going with keeping FPTP.
They should have done a preferential vote there for FPTP / Single member Single Transferable Vote / Proportional STV / etc instead of what they did which effectively pitted Single Member STV against proportional but that was probably deliberate.
D.Lo
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Yeah at least Americans KNOW and behave they are FPTP, even the Simpsons made the jokes about throwing away your vote etc.
Australia really does have a great electoral system, no matter how shit the parties are.
Elaugaufein
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To be fair the only way you'll get incumbent players in an FPTP system to change it is for either the system to become a parody of itself (like what happened with two early Senate systems which tended to elect farcically huge majorities of one party) or to cause them to suffer by losing due to vote splintering. Incumbents won't change from FPTP while people vote in the optimal fashion for FPTP because they are the beneficiary.
Yeah, New Zealand's​ system might be better , but there's very few others that are even close.
Elaugaufein
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World news bump: Le Pen got slaughtered.
She picked up less than 15% of the vote from the 56% available from the elimination of the other candidates.
She picked up less than 15% of the vote from the 56% available from the elimination of the other candidates.
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