I'M FINANCIALLY COMFORTABLE WITHOUT SERIOUS DEBT OR SUPERFLUOUS WEALTH GIVE ME MORE MONEY
I AM POOR, REALLY. I DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS IN MY WALLET SO I MUST BE POOR.
NOT LIKE THOSE DIRTY POORS ON WELFARE THOUGH, THEY JUST WANT HANDOUTS
:/
I'M FINANCIALLY COMFORTABLE WITHOUT SERIOUS DEBT OR SUPERFLUOUS WEALTH GIVE ME MORE MONEY
I AM POOR, REALLY. I DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS IN MY WALLET SO I MUST BE POOR.
NOT LIKE THOSE DIRTY POORS ON WELFARE THOUGH, THEY JUST WANT HANDOUTS
:/
In minor party news, Sex Party are far to the right of the Liberal party economically and Wikileaks put the Nationals ahead of the Greens in their prefences. http://onlythesangfroid.wordpress.co...s-base-auspol/
Despite listing no economic policies on their website, the Sex Party have outed themselves as libertarians in the process of explaining why they preferenced One Nation ahead of the Greens and ALP: http://www.sexparty.org.au/news/1629...-problems.html
The Wikileaks crap could wind up giving us a coalition run sentate, which is a fucking scary thought, worse than Abbott winning: http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/...he-senate.html
Now I just need that ballot editor so I can spend an evening looking at the Group Voting Tickets.
Australian Voice Party
Liberal Democrats
Smokers Rights
Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party
Shooters and Fishers
Palmer United Party
Katter's Australian Party
Sex Party
The Wikileaks Party
Australian Christians
Rise Up Australia Party
Family First Party
Stable Population Party
One Nation
No Carbon Tax Climate Sceptics
Stop The Greens
Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party
Australian Labor Party
Liberal
The Nationals
Australian Sports Party
Australian Democrats
Australian Independents
Australian Fishing and Lifestyle Party
Animal Justice Party
Socialist Equality Party
Secular Party of Australia
The Greens (WA)
Awesome, thanks for the heads up.Looks like http://senate.io/news/2013/08/ballots-for-2013 is up and running.
Actually, I've just had a look through the WA Senate ticket (party list only, removed the individual candidates). I have broken the list up into my reasoned categories.
First off, the Right Wing Fruitloops
The Left Wing Fruitloops
The 'Surely this is just a Troll Party'
The 'How could you betray our trust' category
Christian nutcases
Racists
People who are anti science
The 'Have a Cookie, but not too many you good hearted people' party
The Lesser Evil
The Eviler Evil
The No Idea What You Stand For Category
My preferred options:
Had a read through the Animal Justice Parties policeis the other night, they're not too bad, just looking for more humane practices, they're not telling us to be vegan or anything. seem a good bunch
Middle class votes are important. That's why. It is logically against the main thrust of almost all their other policies, but middle class welfare wins elections.
So is there some explanation for this difference between perception and reality? I suggest six reasons, all somewhat speculative (establishing causes for perceptions is tricky), but all plausible.
First, is the political beat up. The Coalition and the Murdoch press have missed no opportunity to add to the din of complaint, particularly in relation to the carbon tax...
Third, we get frequent reminders of some price rises. They grab our attention. For example, the real cost of driving a car has been falling for many years, mainly because cars have been getting cheaper, easily offsetting higher fuel prices. But we don’t buy cars very often, while we may buy fuel a few times each month. Similarly, while we replace our electrical appliances only every 10 years or so, our electricity bills come quarterly, and we often fail to distinguish between price effects and our own changing consumption.
Guess I'll get married and have a bunch of kids now.
Middle class votes are important. That's why. It is logically against the main thrust of almost all their other policies, but middle class welfare wins elections.
Gotta get that 150k job first.
New life plan: drop out of uni, join the mining industry, get pregnant ASAP.
Malcolm teeing off on current asylum seeker policies of both parties, saying both are 'cruel and harsh'. But not willing to disendorse the horrid LNP policy, carefully worded his answer.
there's no one i want to vote for.
can't i just vote for wikileaks and NOT have my votes counted after a first count. stupid system
If you vote below the line don't your votes go where you want them to?
i dont want them to go anywhere.![]()
The Left Wing Fruitloops
The inoffensive and maybe just quite reasonable parties
Socialist Equality Party
At least they're open about their economic policies, unlike the Sex Party who advertise all of their reasonable social policies but hide the unpalatable lunatic economic ideals out of view.
Secular Party above the line or donkey vote are the only reasonable choices. Most of the options are such granular variations of shit that voting below the line is a waste of time for everyone involved.
Is it really surprising that a party called the "Sex Party" leads towards hardcore libertarianism?
Weren't they founded precisely in response to the internet filter threat?
Can it really be assumed? Of course not.
You might be thinking of the Pirate Party?
surely I'm not the only one?
I think they came much later after the filter was dropped.
What is so good about the Secular Party.
It is entirely possible for a party to have their social policies and not have libertarian economics.
against hallal logos and want us to be a republic.
A Liberal candidate in the northern Adelaide seat of Wakefield has admitted he does not know anything about the Coalition's climate change policy.
In a debate between Liberal candidate Tom Zorich and Labor member Nick Champion, mediator Peter van Onselen asked Mr Zorich to explain how the Coalition's Direct Action plan would work.
Mr Zorich told the audience he was not across the issue and did not have an answer.
"I will say to you as the candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate and a businessman I'm not across everything. My opponent has already acknowledged that. I'm sorry Pete, I haven't got much to tell you about that," he said.
Mr Zorich's response was met with jeers from the crowd.
He was then asked to explain why the Coalition had changed its policy from an Emissions Trading Scheme to Direct Action, and repeated he "did not have an answer for you here."
Mr Zorich was challenged about whether he should have understood his party's policy.
"I'm in a different sphere to where Nick Champion is and I will say to you now [I'm not] across all the issues Peter, and I will leave it at that," he said.
Opposition climate change spokesman Greg Hunt will be in Adelaide tonight to discuss the Coalition's Direct Action plan.
Well he's definitely got Tony's stutter and rambling down pat.Why are they all clowns?
Liberal candidate unable to explain Coalition's climate change policy
As a candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate, as a candidate, oh, and as a busineman, I have no idea.
against hallal logos and want us to be a republic.
also, a lot of their policies are just "we recognise a need for a fix!" but not stating which way their fix leans...
Welp
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FWIW Today's Essential had it at a clean 50:50 and some pretty unsurprising figures on media outlet trust:More like![]()
UPDATE 2: Essential Research bucks the trend in having Labor at 50-50, up from 51-49 a week ago. Both major parties are up a point on the primary vote, Labor to 40% and the Coalition to 44%, with the Greens steady on 8% and others down two to 8%. There is also a question on most trusted media outlets for election coverage, which as usual shows public broadcasters far more trusted than commercial ones, and papers which had traditionally been broadsheets more trusted than tabloids. Four times as many respondents (28%) had no trust at all in the Daily Telegraph as a lot of trust (7%). The Australian, recently heard hectoring the ABC for being too biased to be trusted as a host of leaders debates, scored well below the Fairfax papers. Also featured are results on firmness of voting intention and party and leader attributes, which you can read all about here.
Are you saying we shouldn't be a republic?
against hallal logos and want us to be a republic.
and I like Liz. she's cool.
Yeah, i know its weird but i dont mind having the queen as our technical head. The system works alright as is.I would not like us to be one, but obviously that's up to the general population!
we'll just lean even further towards america if we become a republic is my view
and I like Liz. she's cool.
What about Chuck?
I'm not a monarchist, but I have no faith in the electorate deciding on a good alternative. I would much prefer the status quo to a popularly elected president.