Speculation on the radio this morning is that it was intentional. I hope that's the case, because it's the only way it'll register with people.
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Yeah, I might be giving the Age editors too much credit but I hope it wasn't accidental.
It would be more honest.
I love how when Labor sets aside money for things to improve education etc it's a horrible white elephant. But as soon as they set money aside to buy unspecified future jets it's all steam ahead on the dodgy project they can find.
By all means get the first order and hope it works out, but it makes no sense to put all your fighter eggs in the F-35 basket at the moment.
Wow.
I wish Australia didnt just gobble up US crap for military stuff.
That plane is a disaster >.< And the last Howard government bought those old US helicopters that didnt work, and those other fighter jets that didnt do what we needed.....
Its funny though, in the Canberra Airport, you actually see big ass advertisements for this plane. (And all sorts of US defence contractors)
That plane is a disaster >.< And the last Howard government bought those old US helicopters that didnt work, and those other fighter jets that didnt do what we needed.....
Its funny though, in the Canberra Airport, you actually see big ass advertisements for this plane. (And all sorts of US defence contractors)
gotta prepare for when refugees discover long distance hot-air balloons
"Hey guys, remember me?!?"
it's the only logical conclusion!
Elaugaufein
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I feel that the scope could be improved. If we transfer the elder, the infirm and the disabled to immigration detention centers first , we can save even more money by wiping all these groups out at the same time.
Elaugaufein
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Look on the bright side: They are nowhere near as secure as Howard was. Looking at the polls they could theoretically lose a national election held tomorrow, let alone 2.5 years down the track after unveiling their actual plans. And this is with the ALP being about as inept as they were in Howard's early days too.
Though it still amazes me that anyone at all believed the majority of those promises let alone all of them.
viciouskillersquirrel
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It had been six years since anyone had actually seen Coalition governance at a national level. People forget and (perhaps foolishly) assume that parties change.
And it gets EVEN more worse!
http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/university-funding-possible-target-of-coalition-shake-up/x1sqfgn
http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/university-funding-possible-target-of-coalition-shake-up/x1sqfgn
Elaugaufein
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But think of how much university education will improve when people have to cripple themselves financially by taking out private loans with exorbitant interest rates in order to enter higher education. It'll keep the riff raff where they belong.
Labour would be smart to be saving images like these.
Hilariously odds are every single one of these promises are going to be broken -- where's the JuLIAR-esque outrage?
That is a terrible photoshop effort....
Meanwhile. On refugees and Manus Island.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2014/04/28/3991401.htm
Meanwhile. On refugees and Manus Island.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2014/04/28/3991401.htm
Presented with
comment.
http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...e-budget-deficit/story-fncynjr2-1226898849819
At least the drop out dole is finally going.
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http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...e-budget-deficit/story-fncynjr2-1226898849819
At least the drop out dole is finally going.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I'm actually quite surprised at the imposition of the debt levy and how it will work. My first instinct was that they'd use the debt monster to scare down services and then use the savings as an excuse to cut taxes or enact some pet project. They're straight up actually collecting revenue to pay the debt.
Of course, the way they're framing it is designed to poison the well against any form of future deficit spending. They're literally calling it a debt levy, the better to remind voters in two years' time of Labor largesse and its consequences when they're doing their tax returns. Don't be surprised if the next Federal election is called to coincide with the beginning or end of tax time.
Of course, the way they're framing it is designed to poison the well against any form of future deficit spending. They're literally calling it a debt levy, the better to remind voters in two years' time of Labor largesse and its consequences when they're doing their tax returns. Don't be surprised if the next Federal election is called to coincide with the beginning or end of tax time.
Surplus at any cost! Surplus surplus surplus!
Wow, that's damning as hell. Was thinking/hoping it'd be the sort of thing that'd get torn to shreds on Media Watch, until I saw the comment advising on the submission of the article to them. God, I hope it makes it on there.
Here is a report for the teachers out there... enjoy?
http://www.cis.org.au/images/stories/target30/t30.09.pdf
http://www.cis.org.au/images/stories/target30/t30.09.pdf
Australia is so weird.
If we just ignore the whole breaking a promise thing, Abbott, a conservative prime minister comes in and in order to reduce a deficit, introduces a progressive tax on only the upper middle class and wealthy, and the supposed left parties get really angry at him.
I mean, I actually agree with the Greens about the whole "wait we can't have a mining tax but we can have this?" but once again they are the absolute masters of cutting of their nose to spite their face.
If we just ignore the whole breaking a promise thing, Abbott, a conservative prime minister comes in and in order to reduce a deficit, introduces a progressive tax on only the upper middle class and wealthy, and the supposed left parties get really angry at him.
I mean, I actually agree with the Greens about the whole "wait we can't have a mining tax but we can have this?" but once again they are the absolute masters of cutting of their nose to spite their face.
I think the left parties are actually being pretty consistent on this, it may be a progressive tax, but it is for an economic goal they disagree with.
All the rhetoric about "everyone helping with the heavy lifting" while trying to kill the carbon and mining taxes is really disingenuous. Politicising tax increases like this is also rather ridiculous, especially since it's paying for investments that (ideally) provide large economic gains in the long-term.
Aarglefarg
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Abbott spent years cementing the standard he should be judged by.
Maybe the left parties are finally actually acknowledging leftist economics.
Elaugaufein
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From a left political point of view this levy could be argued to be a negative (even assuming that deficits are critically important). It is a progressive tax increase, but as far as disclosed so far it's relatively small, the steps are large , and the difference between the upper and lower brackets effected is tiny. It's also directing a tax the upper middle class while assiduously avoiding taxing companies, giving out a fair amount of free money disguised as direct action and it kicks in at a lower tax bracket than Tony Abbot's PPL scheme caps out*.
It's also got an explicit sunset clause that will happen before the budget after the next election, it's designed so only the Coalition can take advantage of it. Essentially its major effect (and very likely its intent) may just be to poison the well.
*I think a Paid Parental Leave is an excellent idea, but I'm a terrible person who'd tie it to the minimum wage.
bobnowhere
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I surprised this "though bubble" hasn't been better handled. For a team that was so disciplined during opposition they are going full retard now that they are in government.
I fully expect a similar government funded advertising campaign to what is going on in Queensland and an attempt by the government to relabel this levy/tax/whatever as the Labor Tax and use it to bash the opposition from here on. It's not our fault, you the people dared to elect a Labor government and now you have to pay a tax for it as punishment.
I fully expect a similar government funded advertising campaign to what is going on in Queensland and an attempt by the government to relabel this levy/tax/whatever as the Labor Tax and use it to bash the opposition from here on. It's not our fault, you the people dared to elect a Labor government and now you have to pay a tax for it as punishment.
Wouldn't have such a massive fuckoff debt if we weren't spending it on fighter planes we don't need.
Little infographic from the Australia Institute:
And that is before getting to the planes.
You forgot that its all for a non made up emergency, while gutting the shit out of everything else, closing down everything they can, firing thousands of public servents, with many more to come, talking about lifting the pension age and wanting us to work to death, buying more planes that are so bad the US is only still making them cause they have no choice, introducing a stupidly generous paid maternity scheme....
I could go on.
Levys are stupid.
Governments need to raise revenues, not with a levy for fake emergencies. And not while going on an ideological cutting spree through everything they can because of that 'emergency'.
I dont give a crap about his lie, most people dont, but coming from juliar and someone who spent every last minute of the last election speaking about 'liars' in government?
He spent the last 3 years trying to convince us the carbon tax was the root of all evil, born of a lie between a gay green and a red haired woman. That this evil would be smitten through the courage of himself, his upright ways, his knowledge of power, the adults would be back in charge. And whats he do first budget?
It makes it pretty blatant - if it wasn't already - that the right only care about cutting spending that they don't like, ie, spending that improves the bargaining power of labour.
"Treasurer" should've been put in quotation marks.Little infographic from the Australia Institute:
And that is before getting to the planes.
True, but reaching 100% gdp to debt ratio is the apocalyptic scenario for non reserve currencies.
And a meteor hitting Earth is bad.
Guess we better starting living 12km under ground. finally a use for all those mines.
http://theconversation.com/the-truth-behind-our-dangerous-public-debt-levels-13245
Guess we better starting living 12km under ground. finally a use for all those mines.
http://theconversation.com/the-truth-behind-our-dangerous-public-debt-levels-13245
The yen is not held in reserve that much more than the AUD yet with a debt to GDP ratio of over 200% they have a problem with deflation, not the inflation that deficit hawks always carry on about.
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