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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?
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Basically - "Hey Palmer, we'll look the other way while you do your things, so help us out OK?"
Boom - everything passes in the Senate.
For a bit of a laugh - http://www.news.com.au/technology/o...n-fairfax-strike/story-fnjwmwrh-1226911683795
bobnowhere
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First they fucked us and now...
First they fucked us and now...
Lol.
But I think the picture is a non issue. I mean, if one was the health minister then sure but in this case it's not a big deal.
That picture's gone viral because it fits into a growing narrative. Government for the boys. They're working for a small group of business elites who match the stereotypical men in suits smoking cigars.
It's not a good look to be celebrating cuts to pensions, raising the retirement age, medicare levys, fuel excise levys etc.
A doctor doesn't smoke a cigar after amputating a leg.
It's not a good look to be celebrating cuts to pensions, raising the retirement age, medicare levys, fuel excise levys etc.
A doctor doesn't smoke a cigar after amputating a leg.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Dr House might...
reptilescorpio
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That's uncalled for Jintor.
Joe wishes he was the moon.
If Joe was the moon he would have already snuffed out tidal power and as much solar power as he could fit his big moon butt in the way of.
Aarglefarg
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I am sure Link is doing his best to stop this.
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A More Normal Bird
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I wonder who they've got lined up for the mint.
Also, just heard on the radio that the reason the Defence Housing Association does so much developing itself (and consequently makes so much money) is that the private sector wasn't able to fulfil its specific needs, so it took matters into its own hands. Clearly a prime candidate for privatisation.
Also, just heard on the radio that the reason the Defence Housing Association does so much developing itself (and consequently makes so much money) is that the private sector wasn't able to fulfil its specific needs, so it took matters into its own hands. Clearly a prime candidate for privatisation.
Elaugaufein
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I remain confused about how privatization is a good economic maneuver for the government in the long term except in a handful of specific situations (largely those where a government simply does not have access to the expertise to run these facilities at near peak efficiency but a private party does).
If something is profitable than privatizing it is a net long term loss, if something is not profitable then you shouldn't get any private buyers because the private market isn't in it to lose money unless the private buyers are planning to essentially pull a fast one on the public via an IPO, which seems bad for society (and thus the government) in the long term.
Dastardly Jerks
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AWRH BOY CARN WAIT FAH STROIKAH YEWREEKA.
It's going to be absolutely no surprise to anyone here that I like free markets and private enterprise....
But privatisation is a sham. It's just shuffling the ownership from a government monopoly to a private one. All that happens is that 95% of the time, service improves slightly, and fees rise significantly.
But privatisation is a sham. It's just shuffling the ownership from a government monopoly to a private one. All that happens is that 95% of the time, service improves slightly, and fees rise significantly.
Obviously. Sell public assets, ZOMG LOOK AT ALL THIS EXTRA MONEY WE HAVE! NO MOAR DEFFESIT!, watch said assets turn to complete shit.
BUT SIRPLUZ
Dastardly Jerks
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The privatisation of Trankslink in QLD is working out really really well.
bobnowhere
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It was very nice of Joe and Tony to knock back their pay rise this year so the could share the pain with the rest of us. They of course forget to mention that their yearly pay rise was knocked back by the independent commission in April.
mobile.news.com.au/finance/economy/...-public-servants/story-fn84fgcm-1226914847040
mobile.news.com.au/finance/economy/...-public-servants/story-fn84fgcm-1226914847040
No way. Really?
Filthy fucking pig-scum.
I'm almost completely over just how much our country is going to suffer because of this government just so I can sit back and laugh at what happens. Thankfully I don't have a house/mortgage and I'm single so many things don't affect me whatsoever (or minimally). Maybe next time the general public will think twice about voting a government out rather than voting one in.
And those hard-right conservative voters. Fuck them, too.
I'm almost completely over just how much our country is going to suffer because of this government just so I can sit back and laugh at what happens. Thankfully I don't have a house/mortgage and I'm single so many things don't affect me whatsoever (or minimally). Maybe next time the general public will think twice about voting a government out rather than voting one in.
And those hard-right conservative voters. Fuck them, too.
reptilescorpio
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My bosses boss called me today since my boss is away at the moment and was fucking wet with excitement over all this privatisation. He has already created drafts for the Defense Housing stuff and is rabbiting on about how much we can bleed out of government contracts.
So glad I don't work a government job. They are so fucked. Been a rough couple of years for them
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Eh. I have zero faith in Australian society as a whole after this, unless there's a moment of collective absolute clarity and a colossal turnaround come next election or whatever. For all the shit Australians loved to give the United States after the likes of George Bush, this is the pot proven to be black. Their win is indicative of how dumb this nation is.
WINNAR!
My bosses boss called me today since my boss is away at the moment and was fucking wet with excitement over all this privatisation. He has already created drafts for the Defense Housing stuff and is rabbiting on about how much we can bleed out of government contracts.
So glad I don't work a government job. They are so fucked. Been a rough couple of years for them
He should get that checked out - might be a sign of affluenza.
Yep.
So when is the AusGAF migration to Malaysia/Philippines?
Malaysia has 50mbps fibre, Philippines is cheaper to live in.
Before I'd have said Japan, but that radioactivity man...
The MP is.. for once right. Yep, I agree for once with the Liberal MP. The amount of productivity we get per $ is crap as a whole nation. The solution in the short-term is a freeze (Not a cut, that has really bad long-term effects); but a long term solution is increasing capital infrastructure (Like the NBN) that would increase our productivity.
Elaugaufein
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Will never ever happen*, because both sides of Politics are knee deep in it. They only do these things when they either have no choice or they think they'll get scalps from the other side (and then they inevitable get caught in the fallout because it turns out corruption has bipartisan support).
*Unless Labor manages a string of screwups as bad as the WA senate reelection and manage to drive their vote share down enough make it look like the Greens are a viable major party i.e Never.
Blacker than black. This is the pot proving there's a colour darker than black, to be precise.
reptilescorpio
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Probably New Zealand before any other country tbh.
Similar country, cheaper housing, good economy, great people. Have been tempted for years now but at the end of the day this is my home, I love it even through the bad times.
Hard to come up with positives over NZ right now though. I'll get back to you later >.>
Not too black though or else someone will put it on a lifeboat heading north.
I'm genuinely concerned we haven't seen the social bottom of this trend. Australia is becoming a nasty, spiteful, racist, elitist and socially Darwinian society.
Economy > people apparently.
Elaugaufein
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This is always a danger when people forget that Capitalism is a means to an end, not an end in itself , and a lot of our employment problems with automation actually stem from that, with a lot of automation post World War II having gone into profit margins instead of increased leisure time.
I'm struggling to figure out how privatizing the mint could be in any way beneficial except in the extreme short term.
Like, the government is paying for the maintenance of the mint and employment of workers right now. if it's sold, I'm assuming there would be some kind of monthly or yearly fee paid to the new owners to continue to print money for the treasury. But the new owners would need to maintain the mint, employ workers and turn a profit. So I can only imagine that the fee paid to the new owners would likely be greater than what the government is paying now to run the mint itself.
So I can't think of any way the privatization of the mint wouldn't be a long term financial burden on the government. Am I missing something?
Like, the government is paying for the maintenance of the mint and employment of workers right now. if it's sold, I'm assuming there would be some kind of monthly or yearly fee paid to the new owners to continue to print money for the treasury. But the new owners would need to maintain the mint, employ workers and turn a profit. So I can only imagine that the fee paid to the new owners would likely be greater than what the government is paying now to run the mint itself.
So I can't think of any way the privatization of the mint wouldn't be a long term financial burden on the government. Am I missing something?
Box of Bunnies
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Privatisation isn't about the long term, it's about being able to say "see, we have money! SURPLUS!" in the short term and letting other people worry about the long term fallout.
See my post on who the advisors to the government are - then it'll make sense. It's not a conspiracy if they admit it in the about us Page!
it's Rothschild
It's basically a bad idea each way you look at it.
AdventureRacing
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Every day i come on here i feel like i read another terrible thing about this government. The swings against them in terms of public support mean nothing as well. Sure they would probably lose an election right now but they still have so much support considering they are just going to screw up our countries for decades to come (if we ever recover fully).
Amanda fucking Vanstone was on the commission? Jesus christ we are fucked. Don't even know why i read political stuff anymore, this country is fucked and everything i read just makes me more depressed.
I've said it before but as someone who works in an emergency department this just pissed me off to no end. It's one of those things that might bring in a few million dollars in the first year or 2 but in the long term it will cost the country tens of millions of dollars and who knows how much in lost productivity from people being sick.
It's entirely based on dumb logic. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense can tell you why they're position is illogical.
Amanda fucking Vanstone was on the commission? Jesus christ we are fucked. Don't even know why i read political stuff anymore, this country is fucked and everything i read just makes me more depressed.
I've said it before but as someone who works in an emergency department this just pissed me off to no end. It's one of those things that might bring in a few million dollars in the first year or 2 but in the long term it will cost the country tens of millions of dollars and who knows how much in lost productivity from people being sick.
It's entirely based on dumb logic. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense can tell you why they're position is illogical.
You just know the blowout was from Vanstone's lunch budget.
IPO is all I can think of.
bobnowhere
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