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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?

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wonzo

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Fredescu said:
Can someone explain the appeal of @Rudd2000 and the whole imagen kevern thing? I took a long break from Twitter after the election, and I see they're launching the book based on the account today.

So I read through the timeline a bit today, as I've attempted to do in the past, and I still don't get it. It's going way over my head.
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@Rudd2000: Scot Moreson finally kill he tamagotchi it been fifteen years he try to starve that thing of everything it need

@Rudd2000: Dog fucking guy (allegedly) Chras Kenny really miss Twitter he go out on street throw rocks at strangers it almost the same

@Rudd2000: Keven Andrew see World Vision sponsor starving African kid ad he call 1800 number tell them tell kid get a job

@Rudd2000: Erica Betz watch YouTube channel children fall down stairs he just could watch it forever

it's hit n miss but when it hits
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e: plus

Both editions will ship in mid-October ahead of the official launch on October 29 (event details coming soon). After covering production and distribution costs, all proceeds will be donated to the UNHCR under the name ‘Scot Morensen’
 
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Fredescu

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wonzo said:
it's hit n miss but when it hits
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Ok, true, the sheer volume is daunting, seems like he tweeted alot, but there are some good ones in there.

@Rudd2000 Peter Cradlin refuse let Tone Abort wear sheriff badge to terror law press conference he sulk

@Rudd2000 Bell Shirton's wife ask him what his favourite colour out of purple and orange 10 minute answer later Bell still take no position on matter

@Rudd2000 Toney Abot can’t log into computer he keep putting in wrong password on purpose just can’t help telling lies

@Rudd2000 Daved Ljjejjjenhejjjjjelm know lots about applying for jobs when he apply for job he say to boss “I got my job application here” tap holster
 
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ConstructMe

Banned
good as you have to admit, they planned to cut 1bil of red tape hurting our small buisnesses, and instead they cut 2.1bil! gotta be happy with that.
 
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hidys

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The whole rudd2000 thing is actually a homage to seinfeld2000 who is a parody of Modern Seinfeld and imagens what it would be like if Seinfeld was still on tv using "modarn referances." Like rudd2000 it is also hit and miss.

Weird Twitter is weird.
 
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Dryk

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Apparently self-imposed regulation is costing businesses over twice as much as government regulation. I never knew.

In what it believes is the first assessment of red tape in both Australia's public and private sectors Deloitte Access says government regulations cost about $27 billion a year to administer and cost businesses $67 billion a year to comply with.

But it says red tape imposed by businesses themselves costs $155 billion a year - $21 billion to develop and administer and $134 billion a year to comply with.
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http://www.smh.com.au/business/busi...n-red-tape-20141028-11d17q.html#ixzz3HVBKmznn
 
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Arksy

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Yeah, it's pathetic. I still put the blame majorly on the government though, because without the ridiculous amounts of red tape a competing and more efficient business would have taken over.
 
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A More Normal Bird

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Arksy said:
Yeah, it's pathetic. I still put the blame majorly on the government though, because without the ridiculous amounts of red tape a competing and more efficient business would have taken over.
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Are you saying that you think the existence of government regulation creates an environment where only businesses prone to excessive self regulation can succeed?
 
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Arksy

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A More Normal Bird said:
Are you saying that you think the existence of government regulation creates an environment where only businesses prone to excessive self regulation can succeed?
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lol no.

I'm saying that the government barrier is preventing a more efficient competitor from entering the marketplace to begin with.
 
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Fredescu

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Arksy said:
I'm saying that the government barrier is preventing a more efficient competitor from entering the marketplace to begin with.
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Did you read the article? It is comparing compliance with self imposed rules with compliance with rules imposed by government, and putting the cost of the latter much higher.

In other words, big business has a habit of being highly inefficient by its nature. The notion that big business is inherently more efficient than government is fantasy.

Small and medium business on the other hand can definitely be more efficient than the government, but largely due to size. I think smaller governments would be more efficient, and I don't mean the anti-welfare state type "small government", but a government whose jurisdiction is smaller. The main reason we band together in large groups is for defense, but it makes us make stupid decisions.
 
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Arksy

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Fredescu said:
Did you read the article? It is comparing compliance with self imposed rules with compliance with rules imposed by government, and putting the cost of the latter much higher.

In other words, big business has a habit of being highly inefficient by its nature. The notion that big business is inherently more efficient than government is fantasy.

Small and medium business on the other hand can definitely be more efficient than the government, but largely due to size. I think smaller governments would be more efficient, and I don't mean the anti-welfare state type "small government", but a government whose jurisdiction is smaller. The main reason we band together in large groups is for defense, but it makes us make stupid decisions.
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Yes yes, I agree with you....the corollary of having less government regulation, and more competition is that you'd get a lot more players in the marketplace. Cost of compliance hurts the smallest guys the hardest while the biggest companies just shrug them off because their power basically becomes entrenched by it.....and in an environment where there's little competition it doesn't matter how inefficient they are except towards their own shareholders/owners.

Getting rid of government regulation would also have a spill on effect as businesses become threatened by upstarts. I doubt this will happen, every time there's a good new idea government reacts pretty strongly against them...Uber and Tesla are two examples that come to my mind immediately.
 
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Dryk

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To be fair government has problems with excessive internal regulation as well. All the study shows is that businesses are more to blame for the red-tape they get caught up in than government is though they do share it.

It's been put forth that the reason it's getting this bad is because nobody's bothering to do audits as often as they need to. Leaving them with redundant or no longer necessary regulations that people have long since stopped questioning.
 
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Arksy

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Dryk said:
To be fair government has problems with excessive internal regulation as well. All the study shows is that businesses are more to blame for the red-tape they get caught up in than government is though they do share it.

It's been put forth that the reason it's getting this bad is because nobody's bothering to do audits as often as they need to. Leaving them with redundant or no longer necessary regulations that people have long since stopped questioning.
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My point was, without government regulation pushing out all of the smaller operators and preventing them from starting up with obscene fees, compliance costs, licenses, applications and everything else, we never would have gotten to this point because a business that is operating poorly would have gone bust trying to compete with a leaner meaner greener fighting machine.
 
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Fredescu

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Arksy said:
Getting rid of government regulation would also have a spill on effect as businesses become threatened by upstarts.
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Honestly, I think this is a fantasy. I don't buy the notion that lack of government regulation will result in all these new players in various industries, because the only thing that was stopping them before was... legal compliance. It seems like a real stretch.

I don't believe that competition is a natural state. Consolidation of power is the natural state, and the power goes to those with the deepest warchest. Government regulation is necessary to foster competition at all. I don't think we have sufficient such regulation currently.

And I'm saying all this in the hope for a debate on the subject, because there's every chance I'm wrong.
 
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Jintor

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Obviously compliance costs affect smaller players to a disproportionate degree compared to larger ones, but I doubt it's compliance costs alone that shut them out of a market compared to consolidated power players. And it seems that proper (well, okay, biased... targeted...) regulation would be capable of actually encouraging growth in an industry rather than by necessity stifling it while checking the power of conglomerates/big players.
 
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Jintor

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lol brandis. 'it's entirely false that this new law will allow prosecution because the A-G will never allow it by the way I'm the A-G and my party introduced this law I don't intend to use'
 
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DrSlek

Member
Fredescu said:
Mr No New Taxes just introduced another new tax. Surveillance tax, yay.
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Hungary proposed an internet tax recently.

Here is the result of that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/30/w...gainst-proposed-tax-on-internet-use.html?_r=0
Hungary’s leadership is under pressure to drop plans to tax Internet use, a move seen as a way to cut off public debate by limiting information not controlled by the rightist government of Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

Tens of thousands of Hungarians gathered in the streets of Budapest this week to protest the plan.

“This is limiting free access to the Internet and information,” said Balazs Gulyas, 27, a former member of the Hungarian Socialist Party who set up a Facebook page last week that inspired the protests. “It is an attempt to create a digital iron curtain around Hungary.”
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I imagine good old Australian apathy will result in no such demonstrations here.
 
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Quasar

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so Brandises data collection bill got introduced with one excuse raised being to go after downloaders.

good news for vpn service shareholders I guess.

Now to ponder whether I can still use services like iview when within a vpn. I assume not.
 
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ConstructMe

Banned
Omi said:
Parliamentarian had a relationship in shock revelation.
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Just imagine the conversation tho.

"ok nova, im gonna ditch the existing lady senator and pre select you- a celebrity aboriginal for probably cynical reasons, just two questions"

"1. do you have any political experience or anything of real worth to bring to this table?
2. You wont funnel money off to support your sexual partner will you"

"ohh i wont....i promise...."

Julies legacy right there.
 
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Dryk

Member
Fredescu said:
Did that actually happen?
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Athletics Australia needed an athlete to help promote Jump Start to London. She offered up a guy from the US and told him it was so she could fuck him while he was here.

It's cronyism and there are some comments in those emails that could tank her career (she's a black woman in politics who has had an affair, even without the corruption she's probably done). It's not really misuse of public funds, but I guess that all depends on how a proper selection process would've gone down and if/how much cheaper it would be.
 
D.Lo

D.Lo

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ConstructMe said:
Just imagine the conversation tho.

"ok nova, im gonna ditch the existing lady senator and pre select you- a celebrity aboriginal for probably cynical reasons, just two questions"

"1. do you have any political experience or anything of real worth to bring to this table?
2. You wont funnel money off to support your sexual partner will you"

"ohh i wont....i promise...."

Julies legacy right there.
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Perfect.

Gillard was a political infant sometimes. Truly useless at certain things.
 
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Elaugaufein

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So did anyone else make Scott Ludlam's session on data retention at PAX? A friend of mine had audio I could probably borrow and upload if anyone is interested.
 
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Shaneus

Member
Elaugaufein said:
So did anyone else make Scott Ludlam's session on data retention at PAX? A friend of mine had audio I could probably borrow and upload if anyone is interested.
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Absolutely interested. Somehow managed to miss out on it (lost track of time) but would love to have heard it.
 
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Dryk

Member
Why didn't I notice this two weeks ago?

The new head of the CSIRO knows exactly what it's like to have dry, thirsty dams.

Dr Larry Marshall grew up working on farms and his family run a property in drought-affected Queensland.

It's why he isn't afraid to talk about what he describes as an 'out-there' vision for agricultural research, on top of what's already being done at the premier science organisation.

He's interested in the development of technology that would make it easier for farmers to dowse or divine for water on their properties.

"I've seen people do this with close to 80 per cent accuracy and I've no idea how they do it," he said.

"When I see that as a scientist, it makes me question, 'is there instrumentality that we could create that would enable a machine to find that water?'

"I've always wondered whether there's something in the electromagnetic field, or gravitation anomaly."
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-20/nrn-csiro-ceo-water-divining-dowsing/5822472

The best part is that we already have satellites capable of this
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D.Lo

D.Lo

Member
Brandis is actually killing it on the Islam topic?

I'm genuinely impressed. Actually answering questions with a good understanding of context and everything.
 
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