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Welcome to the Austrian Legislative Elections 2017 OT!
Shamelessly copied/stolen from Xando! Thank you!
I'm sorry if this is a bad thread, it's my first one!

The election is on October 15th!

The Parties:

Liste Sebastian Kurz (ÖVP)

Sebastian Kurz

The Austrian People's Party (German: Österreichische Volkspartei; ÖVP) is a Christian democratic and conservative political party in Austria.
A successor to the Christian Social Party of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it is similar to the CDU/CSU of Germany in terms of ideology, with both operating as catch-all parties of the centre-right.
The Austrian People's Party was founded immediately following the reestablishment of the Republic of Austria in 1945, and since then has been one of the two largest Austrian political parties with the Social Democratic Party of Austria (SPÖ).
In federal governance, the ÖVP is currently the smaller partner in a coalition government with the SPÖ since 2007, with the ÖVP party leader as Vice-Chancellor of Austria.

As of 2013, with regard to economic policy, the Austrian People's Party advocates economic liberalization, endorsing the reduction of Austria's relatively large public sector, welfare reform, and general deregulation. With regard to foreign affairs it strongly supports European integration.[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People's_Party



SPÖ

Christian Kern

The Social Democratic Party of Austria (German: Sozialdemokratische Partei Österreichs, SPÖ) is a social-democratic political party in Austria.
It succeeds Austria's original Social Democratic Party (German: Sozialdemokratische Arbeiterpartei Österreichs, SDAPÖ). The SPÖ has ties to the Austrian Trade Union Federation (ÖGB) and the Austrian Chamber of Labour (AK).
Currently, the largest party in the National Council and second largest in the Federal Council, the SPÖ forms the federal government in coalition with the Austrian People's Party (ÖVP). The SPÖ's Chairman is Christian Kern who became Chancellor of Austria on 17 May 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria



FPÖ

Heinz-Christian Strache

The Freedom Party of Austria (German:Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs, FPÖ) is a right-wing populist and national-conservativepolitical party in Austria.
The party, led by Heinz-Christian Strache, is a member of the Europe of Nations and Freedom group in the European Parliament, as well as of the Movement for a Europe of Nations and Freedom.
Under Strache's leadership, the party has again attracted an increase in its popular support. In the 2013 legislative election the FPÖ won 20.5% of the vote and, more recently, it came ahead either of the SPÖ or the ÖVP in some state elections, entered in a SPÖ-led government in Burgenland and gained more than 30% of the vote in Vienna. Finally, in the 2016 presidential election, FPÖ member Norbert Hofer won the first round, receiving 35.1%, but was defeated by The Greens' candidate Alexander Van der Bellen, 53.8% against 46.2%, in the final run-off (an earlier run-off was invalidated).

Among other things, the party supports the unification of South Tyrol (Italy) with Tyrol (Austria), and, therefore, the South Tyrolean secessionist movement, which notably includes its South Tyrolean sister party Die Freiheitlichen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Party_of_Austria



DIE GRÜNEN

Ulrike Lunacek
Picture soon, can't right now

The Greens – The Green Alternative (Germanie Grünen – Die Grüne Alternative or Die Grünen, also called the Austrian Green Party) is a political party in Austria.
Apart from ecological issues such as environmental protection, the Greens also campaign for the rights of minorities and advocate a socio-ecological (ökosozial) tax reform. Their basic values according to their charter in 2001 are: "direct democracy, nonviolence, ecology, solidarity, feminism and self-determination".
In the 2016 Austrian presidential election, Alexander Van der Bellen won the election with 50.35% of the votes and defeated Norbert Hofer the Freedom Party of Austria politician who received 49.65% of the vote. Van der Bellen will become the first president from the Greens. On 1 July, the Constitutional Court overturned the result of the election and ordered a re-do because of irregularities during the counting process. On 4 December 2016 Van der Bellen won the re-run of the second round with 53.79% of the votes to Hofer's 46.21%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens_–_The_Green_Alternative



NEOS – The New Austria and Liberal Forum

Matthias Strolz

NEOS – The New Austria and Liberal Forum (German: NEOS – Das Neue Österreich und Liberales Forum) is a liberal political party in Austria.
The party, founded in October 2012, contested the 2013 legislative election on a joint electoral list with the Young Liberals Austria and Liberal Forum. In the election held on 29 September 2013, NEOS received 4.9% of the vote and 9 seats in the National Council.
The party supports more direct democracy using referenda and the ending of conscription, opposes increased property taxes and public financing of political parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEOS_–_The_New_Austria_and_Liberal_Forum



Liste Peter Pilz

Peter Pilz

Pilz resigned from The Greens after he had failed at the party's federal congress in a contest vote around the desired fourth place for the national election, and he had been rejected for another candidacy for the sixth list. Subsequently, Pilz formed his own electoral list.
The political party, including Peter Pilz, has four members in the National Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pilz's_List



KPÖ-PLUS

Mirko Messner

KPÖ Plus, also stylized as "KPÖ+", is an electoral alliance between the Communist Party of Austria and the Young Greens. The alliance was formed in May 2017, after the Young Greens were expelled from The Greens. The alliance focuses on issues such as affordable housing and a better living standard for all Austrians. KPÖ+ sees itself as an "interactive platform for all those who are committed to a solidarity and democratic society and want to become active themselves."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Austria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPÖ_Plus



And the rest, tiny and mostly extreme parties. I may elaborate later:
FLÖ - Freie Liste Österreich
EUAUS - The EU Exit Party
CPÖ - Christian Party of Austria
G!LT - My Vote Counts! [Editor's Note: The name is a joke.]
Männerpartei - Men's Party [Note: No English wiki entry exists.]
NBZ - New Movement for the Future
ODP - Homeless People involved in Politics, "Austria's christian-liberal Satire People's Party" [Note: No wiki entry at all. Link has a rant about it]
SLP - Socialist Left Party
Die Weißen - the Whites



2013 Results:

Additional Information:
General information about elections in Austria
Wikipedia article about this election
Details about the last election

Polling information:
https://neuwal.com/wahlumfragen/


Thank you Flips360 for the title, and thanks to everyone else for suggesting stuff

 

[Bedameister]

What are the most recent polls?

 

[Zatoth]

This will be depressing.

 

[Westbahnhof]

What are the most recent polls?

Just added a link, it goes 33 ÖVP, 26 FPÖ, 24 SPÖ, 6 NEOS, 5 Greens, 4 Pilz, or something around there.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I'm loving the jokes on Kurz's behalf, too bad he'll probably still win and we'll get Black Blue.

I kinda made a promise to myself that when the FPO became part of the government again I'd leave the country.

Is Pilz' slogan just a yes we can rehash?

 

[Westbahnhof]

I'm loving the jokes on Kurz's behalf, too bad he'll probably still win and we'll get Black Blue.

I kinda made a promise to myself that when the FPO became part of the government again I'd leave the country.

Is Pilz' slogan just a yes we can rehash?

Ohrwaschlkaktus Kurz almost got me for a second, before I realized the biggest change about "Liste Kurz" were name and color scheme.

Same about the FPÖ, but at the same time, I don't want to just give up and let Austria become what Simba found when he returned home.
I don't want to leave the place to THESE people:

And yeah, Pilz is copying Obama's slogan while copying the green party program.
Very original.

 

[Bedameister]

I'm loving the jokes on Kurz's behalf, too bad he'll probably still win and we'll get Black Blue.

I kinda made a promise to myself that when the FPO became part of the government again I'd leave the country.

Is Pilz' slogan just a yes we can rehash?

Did the ÖVP say that they'll form a coalition with FPÖ? If so then fuck them.

 

[Westbahnhof]

Did the ÖVP say that they'll form a coalition with FPÖ? If so then fuck them.

Who else would they form a coalition with? Black-Red seems very unlikely, with everyone so riled up.

And a little cross-posting:

Is Kurz that bad? He's stolen almost all of the FPO's momentum, and I'd think the OVP is a little less extreme, no?

25-26% FPÖ right now. I don't see that stolen momentum, sadly.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Ohrwaschlkaktus Kurz almost got me for a second, before I realized the biggest change about "Liste Kurz" were name and color scheme.

Same about the FPÖ, but at the same time, I don't want to just give up and let Austria become what Simba found when he returned home.
I don't want to leave the place to THESE people:

And yeah, Pilz is copying Obama's slogan while copying the green party program.
Very original.

That Liste Kurz was just a rebranding of the OVP more than a reboot was made apparent when they blocked a vote on gay marriage.
Their program is also particularly more xenophobic than before and Kurz has been a populist for ever. He talks big on the smallest issues when it involves minorities and it works, got into many fights with my mother as a result.

Pilz is just cannibalizing the green vote, he's free to do that but it doesn't accomplish much.

 

[Bedameister]

Who else would they form a coalition with? Black-Red seems very unlikely, with everyone so riled up.

And a little cross-posting:


25-26% FPÖ right now. I don't see that stolen momentum, sadly.

So you say there aren't any other options right now? Depressing.

 

[Zatoth]

That Liste Kurz was just a rebranding of the OVP more than a reboot was made apparent when they blocked a vote on gay marriage.

That was when Kurz finally lost me. Not that I saw myself voting for the ÖVP. But a 30something year old having such a backwards stance? Shame.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Few parties actually put the FPO off the table w/r/t coalition like in the past. Since Kurz is projected to win it's either going to be Blue Black or Blue Red, neither outcome is very promising.

 

[Ac30]

Who else would they form a coalition with? Black-Red seems very unlikely, with everyone so riled up.

And a little cross-posting:


25-26% FPÖ right now. I don't see that stolen momentum, sadly.

They were polling at near 35% in March, though - at least they won't be the largest party :/

 

[Westbahnhof]

That Liste Kurz was just a rebranding of the OVP more than a reboot was made apparent when they blocked a vote on gay marriage.
Their program is also particularly more xenophobic than before and Kurz has been a populist for ever. He talks big on the smallest issues when it involves minorities and it works, got into many fights with my mother as a result.

Pilz is just cannibalizing the green vote, he's free to do that but it doesn't accomplish much.

Yep. ÖVP isn't an option for me. It has been in the past, but we all grow, right?

And I agree about Pilz. It's just stupid.
My mother called me and asked me who I'm considering giving my vote to. She usually goes green, but now, she's utterly stumped. Torn between red, green, and other green. Or KPÖ.

So you say there aren't any other options right now? Depressing.

I'm actually not sure if there are any other options. I'm just in the process of finding out all that stuff, a bit late, but hey, 2 weeks to get properly educated.
I'm not a very political guy, I just needed a place to discuss because I avoid doing so at work.
A place to vent, when I see stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0LowKamQfw

 

[Liha]

I just hope that the Greens will fail to enter the parliament. It's a disgrace that Julian Schmid got more votes than Peter Pilz at the party conference. I voted for the Greens last time but this time I will vote for Peter Pilz.

It's not even a race anymore, Kurz will win by a landslide and form a coaltion with the FPÖ. Kern had his chance and failed miserably and his party is in serious trouble, especially in Vienna.

 

[KingSnake]

Hopefully FPÖ in the government will end up in the same way as last time, showing how incompetent they actually are and bringing them much less votes for at least one round until the short memory span kicks back in.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Voting SPÖ. Obviously not voting for right-wing extremists and not voting for the conservative cause they´re in the lead anyway. And the rest might as well be a waste of my vote.

Hope that in the end it comes to a Red-Black coalition (ugh) just to not have Strache and his ilk in power.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Voting SPÖ. Obviously not voting for right-wing extremists and not voting for the conservative cause they´re in the lead anyway. And the rest might as well be a waste of my vote.

Hope that in the end it comes to a Red-Black coalition (ugh) just to not have Strache and his ilk in power.

The good old devil you know, I'm with you also gonna go with Red but I'm not optimistic.

 

[Gurgelhals]

This is going to suck badly. Can't see any other result than an ÖVP-FPÖ government and that already was a clusterfuck the last time.

It's a shame about Kern as well. He actually seems decent to me. But I guess there's only so much you can do if you inherit an already moribund party in a coalition government that is already on the ropes :-|

 

[Maximilian E.]

Great thread! Moved to Austria a month ago but have not caught up with the politics of the country yet.

Subscribed!

 

[Westbahnhof]

Anyone try https://wahlkabine.at/ ?
Wondering what results you get.
Here's mine:

...guess I'm more of a dirty lefty than I thought?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Anyone try https://wahlkabine.at/ ?
Wondering what results you get.
Here's mine:


...guess I'm more of a dirty lefty than I thought?

get on my level

I really do not like the OVP. Does that mean Wahlkabine has the OVP further right than the FPO?

 

[Red Arremer]

It's telling that in the last few days, I've heard people be openly xenophobic in public transport, and that the FPÖ actually seems like a more reasonable and less rightwing choice than the ÖVP.

The biggest problem is that, the ÖVP is set to win, if not in this round, then they will win big in the next round if Red-Blue happens.
Black-Blue may be absolutely terrible short-term, but there's a good chance that coalition blows up before the 5 year legislation period concludes, and push the SPÖ into a much stronger position (positions would obviously be reversed if we get Red-Blue).

Either way, I'm concerned, and am seriously considering leaving the country, as well.

 

[Deleted member 98878]

☭

I‘m mentally preparing for a black-blue coalition. It will be a shit show.

 

[Green Yoshi]

Faymann was a joke, but what's wrong with Kern?

Kurz sounds like some of the AfD politicians here in Germany. I hope he won't be the big winner of the election.

 

[Westbahnhof]

Faymann was a joke, but what's wrong with Kern?

Kurz sounds like some of the AfD politicians here in Germany. I hope he won't be the big winner of the election.

I think the problem isn't Kern, it's that the SPÖ remains stagnant, or at least appear to do so.
People are not happy with the world as it is, and I think they feel like the SPÖ doesn't have the power or will to change anything.

I don't know if he's AfD level bad, but yeah. Not a fan.
Kurz and his ÖVP will 100% be first place, but I don't think they'll be "winners".
In almost all recent elections, the only real winners, sadly, seem to be the FPÖ.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

The SPO has been the ruling party since gusenbauer 11 years ago now and we've only gone from 1 problem to another, the coalition only held up once for an entire legislative period.

The leading party is penalized. Kurz unlike Kern was able to rebrand the OVP successfully and reignite their base, take some of it back.

Kurz is going to be the youngest chancellor Austria ever had he took a party that was in the absolute gutters and will probably take their first win since 2002. If he's successful we might look at a 'Vatti' situation of political dominance, the thought fills me with dread.

 

[Red Arremer]

The ÖVP, the party that has been in power in Austria for over 30 years, is just as stagnant if not more so - especially given that Kurz is Schüssel's creature - but a "new" face and coat of paint as well as being one note by only talking about migration/Islam apparently are enough to trick everyone into thinking that suddenly everything changed.

Kurz also is more extreme than the AfD in some positions - just recently the last part of their program came out and it contains 0 social support for refugees unless they work charitable work such as cleaning, something to my knowledge not even the AfD has been demanding.

 

[Hammer24]

What are the chances on a red-blue coalition? Red-black seems to be out of the question, and black-blue not necessarily a given.

"Die Österreicher wollen was Neues"

 

[Endorphineforeverybody]

Whats with Grüne: Lunacek? Also Wahlkabine is just an KPÖ site ^_~

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

What are the chances on a red-blue coalition? Red-black seems to be out of the question, and black-blue not necessarily a given.

"Die Österreicher wollen was Neues"

The winning party will get the mandate to build a government and red is currently projected to make 2nd or 3rd place. While Kern hasn't put the option off the table the program of SPO and FPO is not nearly as reconciliable as it is between FPO and OVP.

So even if polls were completely off I wouldn't bet on it happening.

The ÖVP, the party that has been in power in Austria for over 30 years, is just as stagnant if not more so - especially given that Kurz is Schüssel's creature - but a "new" face and coat of paint as well as being one note by only talking about migration/Islam apparently are enough to trick everyone into thinking that suddenly everything changed.

Kurz also is more extreme than the AfD in some positions - just recently the last part of their program came out and it contains 0 social support for refugees unless they work charitable work such as cleaning, something to my knowledge not even the AfD has been demanding.

The OVP was about to collapse, Kurz was literally their last straw and about the only popular politician on the national scale they had left. They made a gamble and it paid off with dividents.
And yes it's disconcerting how much the OVP has moved to the right with Kurz.

 

[Zaru]

Anyone try https://wahlkabine.at/ ?
Wondering what results you get.
Here's mine:


...guess I'm more of a dirty lefty than I thought?

get on my level


I really do not like the OVP. Does that mean Wahlkabine has the OVP further right than the FPO?

☭

I‘m mentally preparing for a black-blue coalition. It will be a shit show.

Look at all these commies

Anyway, I might actually vote SPÖ for the first time at the national elections.
Kurz feels off on a fundamental human level, Strache's brown soup can go fuck itself and the smaller parties are either too extreme or can't be taken seriously at the moment.
I'm not fond of warming up the grand stagnant red/black coalition yet again, but the realistic alternative is the FPÖ joining the government.. and we all know how that turned out last time, we're STILL paying for that. I mean, even if you hate foreigners and minorities, the corruption and economic exploitation during black/blue was unbelievable.

Any other coalition is uncharted territory.

 

[Endorphineforeverybody]

Fix the OT please: Lunacek ist Spitzenkandidatin. Felipe ist Bundessprecherin.

 

[Red Arremer]

The OVP was about to collapse, Kurz was literally their last straw and about the only popular politician on the national scale they had left. They made a gamble and it paid off with dividents.
And yes it's disconcerting how much the OVP has moved to the right with Kurz.

Oh yeah, this definitely was a stroke of genius when it comes to marketing. But you can tell Kurz is Schüssel's creature because everything is just like the power grab from Schüssel back in the late 90s, only worse. The fact we also have fantastic politicians like Wolfgang "Gackerlgate" Sobotka using their minister positions to field a personal crusade for strong-arming human rights and the split of powers out of the constitution is of course ignored by the voting population, just as much as the fact that Kurz has been caught blatantly lying on TV several times already, and also has been blatantly lying on his website.

Everything about this whole thing is utterly disgusting misdirection, and I really wish the UWG would also apply to political adverts, and lying on TV.

The mere fact that Kurz claimed he doesn't want a "Schnüffelstaat" while saying that there are no alternatives to Sobotka's surveillance program is utter insanity, and I can't believe people are stupid enough to not immediately drop the ÖVP. Not even to mention the fact he's insanely one note and brings up Islam and migration within seconds of beginning any topic of your choosing.

 

[spidye]

Fuck Strache as always but fuck Kurz even more. That guy is seriously a dangerous two faced liar. I really fear the worst if he‘s going to win.

Austrians learned nothing from sleazy schwiegersohn politicians in the past

 

[Fliesen]

I'll be voting SPÖ for strategic reasons as well.

Previously, you were able to pretty much able vote for whomever you wanted (i did vote ÖVP, Grüne, NEOS before, never FPÖ ofc), knowing that - mathematically - we'll be getting a grand SPÖVP coalition anyways.

Now, more than ever, i cannot throw away my vote by voting greens, neos, pilz or anyone because we need a strong SPÖ now, more than ever, to prevent another right wing government.
After everything that's happened within the last years, i can't take refuge in the "well, it can't be THAT bad..." or "well, gotta give em a chance" sentiment.

I'm very disappointed by everyone who honestly believes that Kurz represents anything 'new' or 'progressive'.
And i deny everyone voting ÖVP to pretend they've not been a direct accomplice to having the FPÖ being part of our government. That's gonna be on your hands.

Fix the OT please: Lunacek ist Spitzenkandidatin. Felipe ist Bundessprecherin.

I am so sad that the Grüne are such a loser party. But that's what you get by always priding yourself on your non-successes (our best election result ever!) and constantly doubling down. The fact that now we have green politics split up among the greens, Liste Pilz AND the KPÖ+ (the plus being the young greens) is just ridiculous. In the worst case, they'll all cost one another their seats in the Nationalrat.

 

[Red Arremer]

The problem I see is that even if the SPÖ wins and gets a chance to form a government, it's gonna be a minority government or a coalition with the FPÖ.
A minority government is not going to work, because FPÖVP are going to blockade everything and profit from getting even more votes cause "See, SPÖ can't get anything done".
If SPÖ forms a red-blue government with the FPÖ, it will likely break apart within a few years at most, because the FPÖ knows they're going to be the ones who are really in control, just like the ÖVP has been knowing in the last 30 years. And you can take bets on the ÖVP not supporting anything the SPÖ does. And knowing the tactics that work in this country, the FPÖ will brush themselves off going "Yeah well we tried doing stuff, but the SPÖ was so evil and stopped any reforms we wanted", and it'll work.

Either way, FPÖVP are the ones to gain significantly from any SPÖ government, unless we get a left coalition of SPÖ with any of the 3 smaller parties, if they even make it into parliament.

The only way I see out of this dilemma is if there really is a black-blue government that shows how much of the right parties are nothing but theatrics, and hope that their infighting will cause the coalition to break.

In other words, we're going to have to take the hit and live through our own Trump administration.

 

[Fliesen]

The problem I see is that even if the SPÖ wins and gets a chance to form a government, it's gonna be a minority government or a coalition with the FPÖ.
A minority government is not going to work, because FPÖVP are going to blockade everything and profit from getting even more votes cause "See, SPÖ can't get anything done".
If SPÖ forms a red-blue government with the FPÖ, it will likely break apart within a few years at most, because the FPÖ knows they're going to be the ones who are really in control, just like the ÖVP has been knowing in the last 30 years. And you can take bets on the ÖVP not supporting anything the SPÖ does. And knowing the tactics that work in this country, the FPÖ will brush themselves off going "Yeah well we tried doing stuff, but the SPÖ was so evil and stopped any reforms we wanted", and it'll work.

Either way, FPÖVP are the ones to gain significantly from any SPÖ government, unless we get a left coalition of SPÖ with any of the 3 smaller parties, if they even make it into parliament.

The only way I see out of this dilemma is if there really is a black-blue government that shows how much of the right parties are nothing but theatrics, and hope that their infighting will cause the coalition to break.

In other words, we're going to have to take the hit and live through our own Trump administration.

That's wishful thinking, honestly. We were lucky once, i won't hope for lightning to strike twice.
Also, let's not fool ourselves thinking we can predict party and voter dynamics.
Just a year ago, would you have expected that we'd be looking at the ÖVP of all parties polling at 33% - a party people thought all but dead just months ago.

Kurz' ÖVP is too smart - we're not looking at a Trump administration here - we're talking about the likes of Orbán.

And i rather have political standstill from a SPÖ that is pretty much wingclipped in some kind of weird minority government than a black and blue government. There's no tug of war between the FPÖ and the ÖVP. They'd cooperatively be pushing further right.

I don't want the SPÖ to shape the next 5 years. I just don't want FPÖVP to ruin them.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I've talked to a friend of mine today that's a bit weird, don't know if he's on the spectrum but he's at least a bit socially inept, and he's apparently going to vote Kurz.

When I asked him why he spouted a bunch of right wing propaganda about losing our culture, being outnumbered by foreigners, losing the church, our welfare state being taken advantage of and similar.

Upon inquiry he didn't have any basis for any of it just something he heard or read.
When I asked him what he previously voted it was left leaning though.

What really frightens me is that his reasons to vote Kurz were all reasons to vote FPO in the past. That's telling how far right Kurz swerved the OVP.

 

[Zatoth]

Incredible what a mess the SPÖ campaign is.

Could they even end below 20%?

 

[Mivey]

Somehow the left and center-left parties seem to have knack for sabotaging themselves this election. The Greens self-sabotage was a more involved, ongoing affair, but I think the Socialdemocrats made up for it with excellent timing, a huge scandal just two weeks shy of the election.
It's like they are handing the ÖVP and FPÖ a victory on a silver platter.

 

[JimmyRustler]

I'll probably be voting SPÖ as well, although I like Kurz and think a bit younger blood would do well in our politics.

Why still vote SPÖ? Well, life here is great so the current government must be doing something right. So I see no reason to shake things up.

Hope FPÖ looses big time. Can't stand those guys.

 

[Violet_0]

Austria deserves a Kurz/Strache government
RIP Austria

I can't vote, so whatever

 

[Deleted member 98878]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/jKtyppi.jpg[/IMG]

http://de.muvs.org/museum/presse/fragen-ohne-tabu/

it says:
free birth control for juveniles
free birth control for women with low income
sex education for juveniles
(completely) decriminalize abortions
absorption of costs for abortions

green=yes yellow=to some extent red=no

 

[Bedameister]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/jKtyppi.jpg[/IMG]

http://de.muvs.org/museum/presse/fragen-ohne-tabu/

it says:
free birth control for juveniles
free birth control for women with low income
sex education for juveniles
(completely) decriminalize abortions
absorption of costs for abortions

green=yes yellow=to some extent red=no

So the slogan from the ÖVP should be "Fuck Women", right?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

So the slogan from the ÖVP should be "Fuck Women", right?

Fuck women, poor people and foreigners.

 

[Deleted member 98878]

It‘s the „Volks“partei after all...

 

[Westbahnhof]

Anyone remember the song "Valerie, Valera" by the EAV?
We haven't learned a damn thing.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Anyone remember the song "Valerie, Valera" by the EAV?
We haven't learned a damn thing.

wir sind die Krone der EU lmao

 

[Deleted member 57681]

It's gonna be depressing, just like this whole election battle has been. Kurz has shown his true, big-eared face these last few weeks, and still the question is just by how much of a landslide he's going to win this. Usually I'm a Grün-Voter, but this Kasperltheater for the last two years or so really doesn't deserve any votes. I always liked Pilz, but hey, turns out he'd even kill his old party (and that's what he did) to get a bit of publicity and maybe a seat or two in the Parlament I guess.
I just hope there's enough votes spread out over the small protest-parties to make a far right coalition impossible. Looks like I'll go SPÖ, really the only acceptable option for me. But I'm not getting my hopes up for them to surpass 25% or the FPÖ.