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[ZehDon]

Watched this today, and was every bit as spectacular as I remembered it being in the cinema. I’ve watched my 3D blu ray a half dozen times, and the big screen is just that much better.

For the unsure, this is the standard theatrical cut. No extra or extended scenes from the special editions. There are two alterations:

Spoiler

At the end of the movie, when the column of humans is leaving Hells Gate, Giovanni Ribisi now speaks to Jake. He says “You know this isn’t over.”

Instead of “I See You” playing directly after the title exit, we now get an extended score piece. When the rendered background credits end, there is a scene from Avatar: The Way of Water. This scene is the one where the child helps a whale like creature get a harpoon from its fin. I believe this has been screen to previews at the most recent Disney expo. After the scene, the regular credits resume and the song begins properly.

There is no post credits scene.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm seeing it in IMAX on thursday. My tickets says IMAX 3D HFR.

I can't find anywhere advertising HFR where I live, just IMAX 3D.

 

[sol_bad]

Watched this today, and was every bit as spectacular as I remembered it being in the cinema. I’ve watched my 3D blu ray a half dozen times, and the big screen is just that much better.

For the unsure, this is the standard theatrical cut. No extra or extended scenes from the special editions. There are two alterations:

Spoiler

At the end of the movie, when the column of humans is leaving Hells Gate, Giovanni Ribisi now speaks to Jake. He says “You know this isn’t over.”

Instead of “I See You” playing directly after the title exit, we now get an extended score piece. When the rendered background credits end, there is a scene from Avatar: The Way of Water. This scene is the one where the child helps a whale like creature get a harpoon from its fin. I believe this has been screen to previews at the most recent Disney expo. After the scene, the regular credits resume and the song begins properly.

There is no post credits scene.

No footage of the sequel?

 

[ManaByte]

No footage of the sequel?

Yes. As a mid credits thing.

 

[scoobidoo112]

I can't find anywhere advertising HFR where I live, just IMAX 3D.

In my country our theater chain is Pathe. Tickets are sold as follows:

 

[ZehDon]

No footage of the sequel?

The answer is in the spoiler tag for those who'd prefer to not know.

 

[Aggelos]

Avatar on Instagram: "It’s time to see Avatar the way it was meant to be seen. Experience it back in theaters now with a special surprise 👀 Get tickets now: Link in Bio."

17K likes, 176 comments - avatar on September 23, 2022: "It’s time to see Avatar the way it was meant to be seen. Experience it back in theaters now with a special surprise 👀 Get tickets now: Link in Bio.".

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[Stuart360]

Its on track for a $10mil US weekend, and a $35mil worldwide weekend.
Not bad to say Disney seem to be trying their best to derail it lol (No full A2 trailer with it, not telling people A2 footage is with it, only 1800 screens, etc).
Its also miles ahead of all the post pandemic re-releases so far. It could very well add $100mil to its worldwide total, if they extend it past 2 weeks.

 

[Trilobit]

Playing in my country in 3D. Think I might actually go and see it. Long time since I saw anything in 3D.

 

[SirKicksalot]

It shits all over the vast majority of post-2009 movies, and then there's a scene from the sequel that shits all over it.
IMO the only CGI that's as good or better than Avatar is in The Hobbit (mostly the first one) and young Will Smith in Gemini Man.
Valerian and Alita are almost there too.

HFR was fantastic. I now expect more HFR remasters in the future, the technology works seamlessly.

 

[Jaybe]

Its on track for a $10mil US weekend, and a $35mil worldwide weekend.
Not bad to say Disney seem to be trying their best to derail it lol (No full A2 trailer with it, not telling people A2 footage is with it, only 1800 screens, etc).
Its also miles ahead of all the post pandemic re-releases so far. It could very well add $100mil to its worldwide total, if they extend it past 2 weeks.

Solid weekend. What’s the next movie that would take the IMAX screens, Halloween Ends on Oct 14th? Followed by Black Adam Oct 21st? Until then, smart to used them for Avatar 3D.

 

[SlimySnake]

I got lucky and the IMAX theater at OSU had it in HFR. What an incredible experience. Ive seen the movie dozens of times on bluray, 3d bluray (bought that Sony playstation 3d TV for it), streaming and even on a plane back in June but this felt like I was back in 2009 experiencing it for the first time all over again.

What was impressive was how clear it looked. I will get into HFR impressions later, but this is one of the better remasters ive seen. I dont know if its 4k but it looked way sharper and every face and especially the marine briefing shots with hundreds of people on screen looked crisp and clear. I dont think the CG sequences got a big boost though. It was mostly the real-life shots of characters.

Now HFR. I mostly hated it in the hobbit except for some tracking shots. I think Gemini Man and that Ang Lee war movie look laughably bad, but this oddly did not have the soap opera effect. The post credit scene had the national geographic 60 fps fake movie feel, but the first movie still retains that cinematic feel in HFR scenes. And man, there are so so many of them. I was surprised that he chose to use HFR in even slower character moment shots. I figured they would only look good in wide action shots like in the Hobbit, but here when Jake and Netiri first meet and explore the jungle, it feels magical. The 3D didnt have ANY ghosting effect whatsoever.

The action scenes look good, but I dont think they had that big of an effect like they did in the slower moments. The post credit Whale sequence though OMG. At first I was like oh no, not the soap opera effect, but then he goes underwater and it smooths out to a perfect image. Crystal clear movement, Its like switching between 30 and 60 fps in a game. I couldnt believe what I was watching. Mind you, it still has that national geographic effect, but it wasnt as bad as Hobbit. The characters dont look like they are walking in fast forward. It was just smooth as silk. Breathtaking.

P.S Avatar still rules. Cant believe Hurt Locker won over this movie. So what if its a generic pochantas rip off. Hurt Locker is also the same Soldier addicted to combat trope we've seen in war movies. Oscars really went downhill after this. Not a single blockbuster movie has won best picture since.

 

[SirKicksalot]

then he goes underwater and it smooths out to a perfect image. Crystal clear movement, Its like switching between 30 and 60 fps in a game. I couldnt believe what I was watching.

Turns out variable framerate is manipulating emotions better than any other cinematic trick.
I caught a regular HFR screening with the kids swimming footage. Whenever they came out to breathe it switched to regular framerate. I had an instant reaction - I wanted to go back underwater! And when they went back, it felt just right, like being in the most pleasant environment... I don't know how to describe this feeling but I needed to go back underwater.

 

[Stuart360]

Turns out variable framerate is manipulating emotions better than any other cinematic trick.
I caught a regular HFR screening with the kids swimming footage. Whenever they came out to breathe it switched to regular framerate. I had an instant reaction - I wanted to go back underwater! And when they went back, it felt just right, like being in the most pleasant environment... I don't know how to describe this feeling but I needed to go back underwater.

Its cool tech but i'm not sure i like the sound of the switching between framerates, it sounds too jarring. Imo the whole film should be HFR, or not at all.
I have visions in my mind of old games using double buffered vsync, and the framerate instantly swapping bewteen 30fps and 60fps as the gpu maxes out.

 

[Lasha]

This re-release sems such a weird situation to me. First off its the standard editon, not the special edition, why?.
A 2 week run, only in 1800 cinema's, no full AVATAR 2 trailer with it (talk about a missed oppotunity).

I mean i get it, its a re-release for the hardcore fans, but this could of been a nice push to 3bil but instead its probably going to make very little money.

There is a trailer for way of the water after the credits.

 

[Stuart360]

There is a trailer for way of the water after the credits.

Its just a scene from the movie. I'm talking about the actual full trailer. We have only had the teaser trrailer so far.

 

[Lasha]

Its just a scene from the movie. I'm talking about the actual full trailer. We have only had the teaser trrailer so far.

Your criteria are unclear. There was a trailer for Way of Water ahead of the film and a pretty long preview after. What more do you want?

 

[Stuart360]

Your criteria are unclear. There was a trailer for Way of Water ahead of the film and a pretty long preview after. What more do you want?

The full trailer?. The film releases in a little over 2 months and we still havent had the actual trailer yet.
My point was this re-release would of been the perfect oppotunity to release the full trailer with it. I mean it probably would of brought a few more people to the cinema too.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Its cool tech but i'm not sure i like the sound of the switching between framerates, it sounds too jarring. Imo the whole film should be HFR, or not at all.
I have visions in my mind of old games using double buffered vsync, and the framerate instantly swapping bewteen 30fps and 60fps as the gpu maxes out.

Kek that's exactly what it looked like.
But it was fine in the remaster. So I think it was jarring on purpose in the sequel scene.
I also believe some scenes of the remaster only had part of the image at a higher framerate, like fast arm movements.

 

[Lasha]

The full trailer?. The film releases in a little over 2 months and we still havent had the actual trailer yet.
My point was this re-release would of been the perfect oppotunity to release the full trailer with it. I mean it probably would of brought a few more people to the cinema too.

The trailer I saw made it pretty clear what the movie is about, pregnant Navi and all. It was like two minutes long. What is the difference between the current trailer and a "full" trailer. The other preview was pretty cool. It's all underwater stuff

 

[SlimySnake]

Its cool tech but i'm not sure i like the sound of the switching between framerates, it sounds too jarring. Imo the whole film should be HFR, or not at all.
I have visions in my mind of old games using double buffered vsync, and the framerate instantly swapping bewteen 30fps and 60fps as the gpu maxes out.

Nah, it works perfectly here. At least in Avatar 1. Avatar 2 its a little more noticeable, but I have seen movies with HFR in 100% of the scenes and they look laughably bad. Everyone at my theater burst out laughing when the hobbit started and we saw Elijah Wood walking around in fast forward. The whole movie felt like it was a cartoon. All to enhance maybe 3-4 action scenes. You can watch the 60 fps Gemini Man scenes on youtube. Even the action scenes look off. Nah, this is perfect. You switch scene by scene. I get that shot by shot might be a bit too much, but the way Cameron does it is as close to perfect as you can.

The only time it felt kinda jarring was when they switch to HFR during my favorite shot of the movie.

There is a slight judder here as the camera starts moving fast and it felt kinda off despite being in HFR, but other than that it never felt egregious like when the framerate dips below the VRR range in games. It was just an awe inspiring experience that I might go watch again on Tuesday.

The full trailer?. The film releases in a little over 2 months and we still havent had the actual trailer yet.
My point was this re-release would of been the perfect oppotunity to release the full trailer with it. I mean it probably would of brought a few more people to the cinema too.

Avatar got an amazing 3.5 minute trailer like a month from release. I think you will see one for this movie as well. IIRC, Avatar had the biggest marketing budget of all time at roughly $150 million, almost half the cost of the production budget. The movie is like 95% CG so they are probably still finishing the CG in post so the trailer guys are likely waiting on the finished product.

I don't know how to describe this feeling but I needed to go back underwater.

lol YES! Same here.

The opening shot of him waking up on the whale definitely felt like HFR, but I think the camera might have been handheld so it made it made it feel a bit juddery. The underwater shots had very little camera movement and combined with 3D it felt like I was there in the water.

Cameron is a God among men.

P.S It's crazy that a 13 year old CG movie looks better than Marvel movies of today. I think Kevin Feige is a genius but man the way they churned out these movies at a high clip really made them feel cheap despite costing hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

I watched it in 3D for the first time ever. I actually don't think I watched this movie in theaters when it came out, but if I did it was on a discount tuesday. The 3D effects are pretty great I must say and didn't feel like a gimmick to me. The preview for Avatar 2 also had some great 3D in it. Only other 3D products I like are those shows on Universal and Disney world. That said I don't think watching it in 3D is required viewing, but it does bring something new if one is interested.

 

[RaduN]

Saw it again, after 13 years (and most likely for the last time on the big screen in glorious 3D).
Pristine IQ, and overall juat as impressive as the first time back then.

I have no idea what to actually expect from the 2nd, but knowing Cameron's track record with sequels, it'll most likely be mind blowing.

 

[Punished Miku]

Nah, it works perfectly here. At least in Avatar 1. Avatar 2 its a little more noticeable, but I have seen movies with HFR in 100% of the scenes and they look laughably bad. Everyone at my theater burst out laughing when the hobbit started and we saw Elijah Wood walking around in fast forward. The whole movie felt like it was a cartoon.

I loved it. It feels like watching a play on stage, because the actors look real. For make believe movies this can sometimes have the effect of cheapening the look of it, because you literally see them on screen like you were watching them perform the scene on a movie set. You perceive more of the flaws in the acting, make-up, sets, etc because it just looks like you're there on a set.

This focus on realism heightens most action scenes, martial arts, sports, etc.

Personally, I'd rather watch everything in HFR. They are on a set. Might as well watch it like it's actually happening. Stage plays are fine.

 

[pauljeremiah]

I went to the Avatar re-release at the weekend, and they had a post-credit scene from the new film, and the quality of 3D from the first film to the second is enormous. I asked the few people who were with me did they notice anything different about the 3D in the post-credit clip, and they all said it looked better.

 

[ShinFuYux]

Is this the extended cut?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I went to the Avatar re-release at the weekend, and they had a post-credit scene from the new film, and the quality of 3D from the first film to the second is enormous. I asked the few people who were with me did they notice anything different about the 3D in the post-credit clip, and they all said it looked better.

Wait a minute. Is this being shown in cinemas in 3D?

I thought it was only 4K/HDR

EDIT: Oh fuck. I was wrong. It is indeed 3D lol. Okay, fuckit, tickets booked.

It shits all over the vast majority of post-2009 movies, and then there's a scene from the sequel that shits all over it.
IMO the only CGI that's as good or better than Avatar is in The Hobbit (mostly the first one) and young Will Smith in Gemini Man.
Valerian and Alita are almost there too.

HFR was fantastic. I now expect more HFR remasters in the future, the technology works seamlessly.

That's why I can't understand when people say Avatar looks like a cartoon. The fact that a 13 year old movie still stands toe to toe with the best CGI movies today speaks volumes.

That's terrible! Biggest movie in the world - shouldn't be a gamble to give it a short re-run.

I'm taking a friend along who hasn't seen it in 3D or the big screen. Can't wait to see their reaction to it. No time like the first time.

I was wrong. They are screening it here in NZ and in 3D. Just saw the ad up at my local cinema. I must be going blind or not paying attention cause I missed the ad.

Going to see it this Saturday. Excited AF

 

[Hawking Radiation]

double post.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

fark

 

[ZehDon]

Hawking Radiation 's excitement is palpable Enjoy it man, it's such a great cinema experience!

 

[Aggelos]

 

[RiccochetJ]

Just got back from seeing it in 3D and I loved it. It's been over 10 years since the last time I saw it and I'm amazed at what a great job they did with the remaster and the CGI is honestly better than some effects I've seen in the past couple of years. However, some parts of the 3D didn't feel to hold up as well. Hard to describe, but sometimes it felt like you were looking at multiple flat layers while other times it felt fine as in there was proper depth and 3D.

Regarding the preview at the end, I definitely got the impression that the 3D will have improved quite nicely but it's kind of hard after watching an entire movie and then trying to compare a single scene. However, what they did show completely convinced me to be at the theater with 3D glasses on day 1.

 

[Chronicle]

What a dumb ethnocentric pile of shit this movie is.

 

[sinnergy]

What a dumb ethnocentric pile of shit this movie is.

Thanks for giving James Cameron more money !

 

[SirKicksalot]

Hard to describe, but sometimes it felt like you were looking at multiple flat layers while other times it felt fine as in there was proper depth and 3D.

IIRC about a quarter of the live action footage is converted from 2D. All the close-ups and other things that are close to the camera.

 

[Husky]

The viewing experience was spectacular. I loved that even computer monitors and printed photographs had full 3D depth. I thought the CGI must've been totally remastered, since they looked completely state of the art, but it turns out the visual remastering was all in the resolution and color grade. The effects are just the same as they were before, they've always been that good.
I can't wait to see the sequel.
When I emailed Cinemark to ask about HFR, they told me the re-release would only be presented in 4K HDR 3D, but the sequel will be available in HFR. My theater was able to project The Hobbit movies in HFR, so I'll probably be able to catch The Way of Water the way I'd like
But some of you guys were able to see the re-release in HFR? I'm jealous!

IMO the only CGI that's as good or better than Avatar is in The Hobbit (mostly the first one) and young Will Smith in Gemini Man.

I remember young Will Smith's face looking a bit dodgy, but I still had a great time with Gemini Man, and with the multiple Will Smiths (and fuck, that choreography man, those action sequences are some of the best ever shot). The HFR in that movie (and in Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk) kicked ass. Native HFR deserves more love.

 

[Chronicle]

Thanks for giving James Cameron more money !

I didn't. Pure download.

 

[scoobidoo112]

Just got out of IMAX, had a great time and the HFR scenes looked amazing.

We even got a special look at an Avatar 2 scene, which looked beautiful as well. December can't come soon enough.

 

[TVexperto]

Just got out of IMAX, had a great time and the HFR scenes looked amazing.

We even got a special look at an Avatar 2 scene, which looked beautiful as well. December can't come soon enough.

Did you know Avatar(2009) is the top grossing movie of all time at $2,847,246,203? I mean I know I’ve seen it, I can say you’ve probably seen it yourself, but I can’t name a single character from that movie. I’ve watched it once and all seem to remember is that I watched it. This year in 2022, James Cameron, the creator of Avatar is planning on releasing a second movie in December. Not just that but two years later James Cameron is expecting a third, and in another two, a forth. Avatar became the highest grossing film in history in 2009, 13 years later, James Cameron is coming out with three more all within a four year period. For Christ's sake two of them are going to cost over $1 billion to make. James Cameron knows the power he’s holding, he knows that no matter what he puts in those movies, we’re going to watch them. He’s going to take over the world somehow and we won’t be able to stop him. James Cameron will have all the money, and we’ll be stuck watching those damn movies.

 

[sinnergy]

I didn't. Pure download.

You are so 90s

 

[Chronicle]

You are so 90s

Born in the 70's and sex drugs and rock n roll in the 90's. Grunge forever!

 

[Punished Miku]

My theater didn't have HFR. Went to IMAX 3d. Movie started and it was busted. They have to recalibrate the whole projector. They gave us free tickets and played the movie in 2D. Gigantic bummer.

The movie is still a complete masterpiece though and looks like its from the future.

Will try to see the sequel in IMAX 3D and see what happens. Have free tickets for it now.

 

[Aggelos]

Is he implying that us, the human race of the future, are the invaders of an alien world, the Na'vi, and instead of cherishing and protecting that minority, we choose to destroy them and strip them down for parts?
Hence the motto "Blue lives matter"...

 

[HoodWinked]

Is he implying that us, the human race of the future, are the invaders of an alien world, the Na'vi, and instead of cherishing and protecting that minority, we choose to destroy them and strip them down for parts?
Hence the motto "Blue lives matter"...

holy shit this man does not give a fuck.

 

[RJMacready73]

Took the kids to see this in 3D Imax and it blew them away, gotta say i fucking loved it as well and man some of those special effects are still lightyears ahead of anything Marvel has ever produced, some of the scenes where just pure photo realistic and the close ups of Neytiri's face is truly mindboggling.. also loved the wee snippet from the next movie afterwards, cannot wait for it definately a proper cinema movie