jakonovski
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Trump is going to facilitate a war because he wanted to get praised on a matter he understood nothing about.
Jesus.
Jesus.
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Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and others cutting diplomatic ties to Qatar
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There is no war related to this, chill dude.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Kuwati Emir went to SA to ease tension but failed
update on the Morocco flights
yeah people thinking
a) a war will happen
b) Qatar will abandon the GCC entirely and join close relations with Iran
are likely to be disappointed
only a 2 hour meeting
update on the Morocco flights
yeah people thinking
a) a war will happen
b) Qatar will abandon the GCC entirely and join close relations with Iran
are likely to be disappointed
Nah it won;t get that far, this is basically a family feud that is being played out in public, although I have to say that Saudi and UAE have planned this trap very well indeed.
Jordan getting in on the action too:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/qatar-diplomatic-crisis-latest-updates-170605105550769.html
And of course Al Jazeera is the main target again.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/qatar-diplomatic-crisis-latest-updates-170605105550769.html
And of course Al Jazeera is the main target again.
Shogmaster
Member
The $100B was already existing deal that Trump just took credit for, just like the Ford and Carrier thing earlier. Saudis allow that to make the $100M gift to Ivanka and thus Trump, more palatable and less suspicious.
In any case, Trump is definitely in Saudis' pocket.
Thanks For the clarification.
Btw I haven't heard of former president Saleh for a while now, he was once described in the nytimes as the biggest liar on the face of the planet by one of the people in his clan. lol
TheRealTalker
Banned
we will likely know what the conditions are in the coming hours
if they basically get the 10 conditions then it will be one step closer to the GCC being just one big single bloc
Saleh and his men/soldiers is currently allied with the Houthis who he use to fight against when in power
TheRealTalker
Banned
Sorry for the double post but things got even more weird
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/russian-hackers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html
They're talking about that News hack a week or so ago
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/russian-hackers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html
They're talking about that News hack a week or so ago
TheRealTalker
Banned
This list is pretty big
especially AJ being abolished
24 hours to do those? Crap, do you want Qatar to build a fully functional space station while they are at it?
Regginator
Member
I'm not a huge expert on these Middle Eastern affairs, but why would you consider this option B to be unrealistic? I mean, Qatar is literally cut off from every GCC member except for Oman. Why would they want to remain in this union? You'd think a pact like that should mean friendly relations to each other, not cutting off diplomatic ties...
You Are Viewtiful
Member
They're overreacting big time. Cutting off food supplies? Wow.
TheRealTalker
Banned
economically, socially, militarily, etc...relations with Qatar and the GCC are entwined as a family region
even the citizens of each country have family from the other
Iran wouldn't ever be a substitute
rather Qatar has relations with them to even the playing field
naweednrahman
Member
Any confirmation Russia hackers did that? I feel everyone is using Russia as a scapegoat too lol.
Plot twist - maybe Saudi hired russian hackers so they could stronghold Qatar into doing what they want...
vonStirlitz
Unconfirmed Member
Any chance this could backfire?
Aside from the Janus like Saud discourse on terrorist financing (which looks unlikely to be an issue given Trump looks like he is in their pocket), I wonder how this will impact the region more widely. A number of Gulf countries have diversified into finance, but this is only sustainable if the region can maintain a fiction of stability and financial standards. If this conflict gets deeper (even if just diplomatic) and the veil is lifted just slightly on what goes on financially in the region, does the house of cards start tumbling for all the players?
Aside from the Janus like Saud discourse on terrorist financing (which looks unlikely to be an issue given Trump looks like he is in their pocket), I wonder how this will impact the region more widely. A number of Gulf countries have diversified into finance, but this is only sustainable if the region can maintain a fiction of stability and financial standards. If this conflict gets deeper (even if just diplomatic) and the veil is lifted just slightly on what goes on financially in the region, does the house of cards start tumbling for all the players?
TheRealTalker
Banned
idk does the FBI count?
Cosmo Clock 21
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Qatar has no chance to get out of this, they will essentially be taken over. If anything happens to the US base Trump will declare war on them too. They are royally screwed.
Actually they are only allowing food to cross the border.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Their only chance is negotiating with Egypt on the side and somehow getting them to normalize relations in exchange of the Muslim Brotherhood people then accept Turkey's and Russia's help.
All that is a long shot tho, Qatar will end up bowing down to big brother Saudi Arabia.
gulfamashraf
Member
Heyooooo
iPaul93
Member
WOW.Just wow.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I'm really starting to think that there is something serious that is hidden in the background that Qatar and the others now but we as the public haven't yet.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
God damn the Saudi leadership ! No wonder they want Al Jazeera banned but what a shameful way to do this. Of course, it's also in the interest of the West so they won't do anything to stop that.
Al Jazeera English produce one of the best shows and documentary out there. I hope they will find a solution but i doubt it. GrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Al Jazeera English produce one of the best shows and documentary out there. I hope they will find a solution but i doubt it. GrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
This crossed my mind.
There was an incident that happened in Yemen that resulted in the death of over 40 Emaratis soldiers.
Someone gave a way their location and Qatar was part of the Arabic coalition.
Could this be it?
There was an incident that happened in Yemen that resulted in the death of over 40 Emaratis soldiers.
Someone gave a way their location and Qatar was part of the Arabic coalition.
Could this be it?
Just like every president before him.
The kind of law that a lot of right wing western politicians would love to have.
Saudi Arabia forces a tiny Muslim country to shut down their news media? This is deja vu....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-arabia-mecca-visa-hajj-economy-a7404616.html
This happened in Nov 2016.
My home country of Brunei is small but KSA managed to force the hand of our Sultan to shut down our independent newspaper because they published negative news about Saudi.
Most people here won't understand this, but Saudi Arabia increased the visa price for pilgrimage to The Holy mosques making it harder for some to do Hajj which is a pillar of Islam.
Saudi Arabia can fuck off.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-arabia-mecca-visa-hajj-economy-a7404616.html
This happened in Nov 2016.
My home country of Brunei is small but KSA managed to force the hand of our Sultan to shut down our independent newspaper because they published negative news about Saudi.
Most people here won't understand this, but Saudi Arabia increased the visa price for pilgrimage to The Holy mosques making it harder for some to do Hajj which is a pillar of Islam.
Saudi Arabia can fuck off.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
I didn't heard about this. Damn that sucks. They are really the worst.
I think getting up in arms over the hack in and of itself as some kind of smoking gun is mostly missing the forest for the trees. SA was just looking for an excuse to do this in light of Trump being Trump over there. The hacked story just gave them a little more gas on top of the timber so they could set ablaze this fire they've been building for years now.
Now if SA and Russia actually colluded on getting the story inserted, that's kind of interesting.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Boss★Moogle;239474359 said:
Wow. An actual supporter of the qatar blockade.
Muslim brotherhood is not a terrorist group and it's the main reason AS is going after them.That and Al Jazeera openly criticizing Bahrain and Saudi Arabia crackdown on political opponent.
Hamas have a terrible history of using terrorist methods, but so does FATAH, which is supported by Saudi Arabia. If you think that Saudi Arabia is making this because of terrorist methods used by Hamas you are really deluded. It's all about the ideological ties to Muslim Brotherhood.
Hamas officially cut the ties with the MB early this year to avoid those conflict with Egypt and SA.
Not the only time the Saudis have blatantly interfered in another country's affairs.
Though not as drastic as getting a nation to shut down a news outlet, a few years back the International Islamic University of Islamabad was having an Islamic cultural week and the President of the university invited the Iranian ambassador to take part. The Saudis did not like this and got the president fired and installed their own stooge as president. He's still the president as of this day: http://www.iiu.edu.pk/about-iiu/administration-collaboration/president-office-2/
1st Course
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Steve Herman‏Verified account @W7VOA 14h14 hours ago
World's largest shipping line @Maersk tells customers to effectively forget about trying to ship anything to or from #Qatar.
World's largest shipping line @Maersk tells customers to effectively forget about trying to ship anything to or from #Qatar.
The Greek Freak
Member
I hope I get to see the scum SA royals beg for their lives before their citizens hang them like the trash they are before I die. Really the worst group of people on planet earth since the fucking 40s.
Every bomb that we threw at Iraq and Afghanistan should have landed on their golden fucking heads instead.
Every bomb that we threw at Iraq and Afghanistan should have landed on their golden fucking heads instead.
If you look at the London terrorism thread, there are a lot of people arguing that all ISIS sympathizers should be jailed right away.
Also,
Oh, one of my friends is in the UAE right now.
Working on an arms deal. No joke.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
I hope you mean prosthetic limbs
L0st Id3ntity
Member
I don't know about that sum of money, but I had 2 friends among the people who were kidnapped. They were gone for almost 2 years and came back looking malnourished.
What the fuck?!
Not that surprising actually. You know they passed a law that fines and imprisons anyone caught using a VPN regardless of their intention right?
