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beerbelly

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Boras is looking for a 5-7 year deal worth about 14 million a year...No way the Jays will sign him. But you never know with J.P.'s persuasion skills. He DID get Wells and the once-hot Hinske to sign extensions shortly after their incredible outtings. And for surprisingly low money contracts too (especially Wells). Anything can happen.
 
WTF? Who is gonna give Ordonez a 5-7 year deal? I have heard his knee injury described as similar to the way Bo Jackson fucked up his hip. It was so bad he had to go have some experimental surgery in Germany. I'd stay the fuck away from him unless its a 1 year deal.
 

Joe

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It's been two weeks since George Steinbrenner summoned Alex Rodriguez to Tampa for a private meeting, but the ramifications of that summit linger. The Boss' words were designed to startle A-Rod, whose 2004 numbers were respectable but failed to elevate him to Reggie or Mattingly or even Derek Jeter-status.

A-Rod is so committed to delivering on that promise, he declined an invitation to Jeter's celebrity golf tournament in Tampa last week, even though the guest list included Michael Jordan, Roger Clemens, Reggie Jackson, Wayne Gretzky and Lawrence Taylor. Rodriguez's absence didn't go unnoticed, as his handlers said the third baseman didn't want to interrupt his workout schedule.

Rodriguez's decision to skip the event indicates he and Jeter are indeed on separate paths now. He has equally distanced himself from Barry Bonds, despite having made a much-publicized appearance in New York with the Giants' slugger. For $7,500 apiece, fans were given the chance to chat privately with A-Rod and Bonds, netting the two nearly $2 million.

The difference, however, is that A-Rod donated his proceeds to the Boys and Girls Club of Miami. Bonds reportedly used the cash to decorate his new home. Rodriguez now concedes he made a mistake appearing with Bonds.

"I made the commitment a year ago, and I wasn't going to back out," he said. "But if I had to do it again, I would've made the appearance by myself. But I would've still done it."

A-Rod has spent the winter immersed in football-like workouts six days a week at the University of Miami, where he trains with the Hurricanes' strength coach, Andrew Swasey. There, Rodriguez lifts weights, runs 200-yard sprints and pushes sleds in 100-yard intervals with the school's varsity players, working out for three hours at a time before breakfast.

It's a massive, if not masochistic regimen. But Rodriguez is proud of the fact that while he's out of his house by 7 a.m, "there are 650 or 700 other players who are sleeping, or taking their kids to school. But there's no way they're going to be running the stairs or doing what I'm doing."

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Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
In the meantime, the Cubs, had been assembling a shopping list of potential right-field replacements for Sosa.


Besides Burnitz, Chicago looked into free agent Magglio Ordonez, one executive who has spoken with the Cubs told Stark. But the Cubs are believed to have no interest in giving Ordonez a deal longer than two years.



Detroit and Ordonez exchanged proposals last week, and Texas has expressed interest.


The Cubs also are expected to explore what it would take to trade for Tampa Bay's Aubrey Huff and Oakland's Eric Byrnes. But they're said to be less than optimistic about matching up with the Devil Rays and unsure whether Byrnes would provide the kind of production they're looking for.


The Cubs are offering reliever Kyle Farnsworth as the centerpiece of any deal, an official of one team that has spoken with Chicago told Stark.


The Mets' Cliff Floyd and the Reds' Austin Kearns also have shown up on the Cubs' list at various points this winter. But Floyd has two years left on his contract and wouldn't seem as attractive if he weren't being swapped for another big contract like Sosa's. And there have been no indications the Reds are hot on moving Kearns, despite nonstop rumors -- particularly within their own division.

Burnitz? Interesting.
 

Cubsfan23

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The Cubs are offering reliever Kyle Farnsworth as the centerpiece of any deal, an official of one team that has spoken with Chicago told Stark.

Long overdue

Burnitz would be a horrible move, Sosa is even better than him. kearns would be nice though.
 

Mrbob

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WTF is Hendry doing this offseason? He has been solid since he got here and he is making some head scratching deals this offseason! He is having a bad offseason. We get rid of Sosa and now are on the cusp of signing Burnitz? Oh fucking great. So instead of having a right hand batter who hits 35 home runs/100 rbi and strikes out 300 times we'll have a left hand hitter who hits 35 home runs/100rbi and strikes out 300 times, BUT SLOWER. Good show, Jim! I believe he has some ulterior master plan brewing!

Send The Farns packing!!!

Don't forget about Magglio, Hendry. FUCKING MAGGS, SIGN HIM DAMN IT.

Cubs with Burnitz = 100 wins
Cubs with Maggs = 145 wins

DO THE MATH.
 

beerbelly

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Source: Sportsnet.ca

-SkyDome will have an official name change tomorrow. Two words. One of them will be 'Rogers'.

-Rogers willing to increase payroll for future seasons

-should Barry Zito be available in the summer, Marlins are willing to trade for him
 

Joe

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only a few weeks til pitchers and catchers report and only 2 months until opening day. WOW.

im assuming we gotta have drafts by mid-march so that means we should start REALLY organizing this pay-league by the end of feb. or very early march.

and why is the yanks/red sox opener on espn2? what could espn be showing that is bigger than a yanks/sox opener on a sunday night (not to mention it could be unit vs. schilling)?

$10 says its womens billiards.
 

Shinobi

Member
beerbelly said:
Source: Sportsnet.ca

-SkyDome will have an official name change tomorrow. Two words. One of them will be 'Rogers'.

-Rogers willing to increase payroll for future seasons

What's the point of a new name? Everyone's gonna keep calling it Skydome anyway.

And it's lovely that the Jays payroll is going to increase in future seasons...wish they'd started that in the current off season.
 

beerbelly

Banned
The name will be Rogers Centre.

They will also announce that they will be converting to field turf.

Official announcement this afternoon :D

Edit: From 53 million payroll (this year) to 70 million each of next 3 years :)

Source: Sportsnet.ca

"TORONTO (CP) -- SkyDome is getting a facelift with new scoreboards, new playing surface and a new name -- Rogers Centre.

Owner Ted Rogers also pledged more money for players -- $210 million US over three years.

"That represents about a 40 per cent increase on the payroll in the past year," the communications mogul told a news conference Wednesday.

"We have the resources now to go out and do some things that we would like to do," said GM J.P. Ricciardi. "We're going to take it and look at all the avenues available to us going forward."

"We pledge to you all our fans that we will investigate any and all ideas that will improve this building and the fan experience," Jays president Paul Godfrey said Wednesday.

The stadium will also receive several upgrades, including new video scoreboards to replace the aging JumboTron and a new playing surface designed by the Montreal-based FieldTurf Inc, replacing the rock-hard artificial turf.

The main screen will be the same size as before: 33 feet high by 110 feet wide (10 by 33{ metres). Two other screens, 10 by 65 feet (three by 19.8 metres) will also be installed.

"No longer will the Blue Jays be the only team in major league baseball to play on AstroTurf," Godfrey said.

Instead a new FieldTurf surface will be installed.

"This is our start, but by no means is it our finish," Godfrey said, saying the baseball-friendly stadium makeover will continue." :D :D :)
 

Kuroyume

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N, money wasn't a factor for Beltran. Playing on a contender was his concern and the METS were a lock for the WS (thanks to Pedro) even before he signed. Would he rather be a wild card champion for the rest of his life or a WS champ? Think about it.....
 

Iceman

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You know what? I predict 3rd place for the Mets.

(You can thank your lucky stars that I'm horrible at predicting the NL East)
 
Haha I know they never would have gotten Beltran

But an extra 20 million is a LOT of money

they could have overpaid for matt clement, signed koskie and still have enough money to sign another good player
 
I think the Mets will finish 4th in the NL East. The Braves, Phillies, and Marlins have better talent. They really do.

And I can't believe you think the Mets were a World Series bound team as soon as they signed Pedro. They only won 71 games last year!!! :lol One player doesn't add 20+ wins.
 

Mrbob

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Kuroyume said:
N, money wasn't a factor for Beltran. Playing on a contender was his concern and the METS were a lock for the WS (thanks to Pedro) even before he signed. Would he rather be a wild card champion for the rest of his life or a WS champ? Think about it.....


:lol :lol :lol :lol

It is funny to see the biggest sports flip flopper on this board talk about the mets and think they are a WS lock. :lol
 

Mrbob

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Hey, lookee, the Cubs signed Burnitz. Hoorrrrrfuckingraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Blah.

But with BorAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS making the deal there is no way we are getting Maggs without signing a 2 year, 6000 billion dollar contract.
 

beerbelly

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J.P. talked to another team about a potential player 5 days ago. Nothing happened but he seems pretty optimistic that a trade will happen in June to get that player.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Man the NL Central has gotten worse :( Its always been the top divison in baseball imo,and this off-season the top three teams have gotten worse or havent done jack shit to improve their ball clubs.

But we all know it doesnt matter cause the Mets are winning it all anyway.
 

Mrbob

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Maxwell House said:
I disagree about the NL Central being a strong division for a while. It has been one of the weaker divsions in baseball over the past decade.



Last two years, three out of the four teams in the NL championship series have been central teams.

Don't worry NL Central fans, the Cubs won't let the division down. The World Series run in 2005 is still on!
 

Joe

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not only do they sound like an all-star team, they look like one too!

the hat's pretty cool though.
 

Shinobi

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Kuroyume said:
N, money wasn't a factor for Beltran. Playing on a contender was his concern and the METS were a lock for the WS (thanks to Pedro) even before he signed. Would he rather be a wild card champion for the rest of his life or a WS champ? Think about it.....

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
Kuroyume said:
N, money wasn't a factor for Beltran. Playing on a contender was his concern and the METS were a lock for the WS (thanks to Pedro) even before he signed. Would he rather be a wild card champion for the rest of his life or a WS champ? Think about it.....


what is your fucking major malfunction man? seriously.....

Man the NL Central has gotten worse :( Its always been the top divison in baseball imo,and this off-season the top three teams have gotten worse or havent done jack shit to improve their ball clubs.

oh great. your dad know you're on drugs now? sheesh....
 
When your division has the likes of the Pirates, Reds and Brewers, your division isn't that strong. It is easier to rack up wins in the NL Central than most other divisions. The past decade, the NL Central's combined win-loss record has been 2nd worst in baseball, only trailing the AL Central for that dubious honor.

I think this year the toughest division top to bottom will be the NL East. I expect it to have the best win-loss record of all the divisions. Here is how I think the top divisions will lineup this year in terms of combined win-loss:

1. NL East
2. AL West
3. AL East
4. NL Central
5. NL West
6. AL Central
 

Kettch

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The Burnitz signing is just for one year, so I don't have any problem with it. There isn't anyone better left, unless Ordonez drops his demand for a multi-year deal. Hopefully we can fill in our outfield a little better next year though with Sosa gone.

As for this year, I see the Cardinals winning the division with ease once again. Mulder was a really big pickup, and easily makes up for losing Renteria. The Cubs should still be able to compete for the wild card though, assuming Prior can pull it back together.
 

theo

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Kuroyume said:
N, money wasn't a factor for Beltran. Playing on a contender was his concern and the METS were a lock for the WS (thanks to Pedro) even before he signed. Would he rather be a wild card champion for the rest of his life or a WS champ? Think about it.....

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
 

Joe

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the yankees signed a stud left handed reliever.

``I just compare him to what we have,'' Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said. ``Is he better than some of our insurance? Yes, he is.''

who could cashman be talking about?

BUDDY FUCKING GROOM
lefties hit .330 off him in 2004!
 
speshylives said:
Don't you worry, Stottlemeyer will have them hitting .430 by the time he's done.

Kinda makes you want Felix back.


i'm gonna pretend you didnt say that. we both know he'll have him on his way to columbus before spring training is out. :D
 

beerbelly

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A picture of what Rogers Centre will look like with the new screens:

bluejays_500.jpg


Putting 2 screens where the wall paddings are is a bit bizarre. If a player ran into it wouldn't they get injured from the hard impact? (not to mention the damage and extra $$ to fix). Stupid idea.
 
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For $7,500 apiece, fans were given the chance to chat privately with A-Rod and Bonds, netting the two nearly $2 million.

The difference, however, is that A-Rod donated his proceeds to the Boys and Girls Club of Miami. Bonds reportedly used the cash to decorate his new home. Rodriguez now concedes he made a mistake appearing with Bonds.

Man, I hate Barry Bonds. I'm not a fan of A-Rod either, he's a little bitch, but at least here he shows class. But Bonds just takes the cake as the asshole of baseball. He also charges kids for signed baseballs. I guess those millions just aint quite enough to cover his roid fees
 

Fifty

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beerbelly said:
A picture of what Rogers Centre will look like with the new screens:

bluejays_500.jpg


Putting 2 screens where the wall paddings are is a bit bizarre. If a player ran into it wouldn't they get injured from the hard impact? (not to mention the damage and extra $$ to fix). Stupid idea.


Sounds pretty stupid. Looks pretty stupid. Typical Rogers :p
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
Thaedolus said:
Man, I hate Barry Bonds. I'm not a fan of A-Rod either, he's a little bitch, but at least here he shows class. But Bonds just takes the cake as the asshole of baseball. He also charges kids for signed baseballs. I guess those millions just aint quite enough to cover his roid fees

yeah, wtf is that? fuck bonds
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
damn. that's a shame.



CHICAGO -- Ken Williams woke up Monday morning with a copy of a Chicago Tribune article dealing with Magglio Ordonez's personal criticism awaiting in his e-mail inbox.
The basic message from Ordonez was that the White Sox general manager "buried" him in terms of offseason negotiations, stating that his twice surgically repaired knee still "was not OK." These quotes came from Ordonez on the verge of signing a five-year, $75 million deal with the Tigers, the second highest free agent haul of the offseason behind Carlos Beltran's deal with the New York Mets.

Ordonez believes the White Sox talked down his condition to other organizations, a sentiment he expressed once again during Monday's press conference at Comerica Park.

"They did. I don't know why they talked about that," Ordonez told the Detroit media, when asked about the White Sox. "I did my best over there, played hard every day in Chicago. But when I didn't sign over there, they started talking about me. Now I'm a Tiger."

oh blow me you fucking baby. what a prick.
 
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