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Batman: Arkham Origins |OT| Justice from the head of Prototype And Hulk: UD
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Messypandas
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Yeah I agree. I must admit I only played the story missions primarily (on hard, and it took me a good few play sessions) and tackling the side stuff now. Maybe short was the wrong word, but I guess I felt the end didn't really deliver on the promise the game was building. I think it could have been stronger as to not feel so abrupt in the narrative.
Yeah I agree with all you said too
Over-saturation would definitely do more harm than good, and fleshing out the he DC universe would be a welcome change considering how under-valued the other characters feel in the medium. If I could be cheeky, I'd ask that Montreal stay on, give me an Arkham Origins sequel set on a long Halloween and Rocksteady light a trail for another character. Also, I didn't pick up on any of those references, nice one.
If I could add one more criticism, its that Gotham never really felt like Gotham. I know they alluded to curfews and snow blizzards but it just felt like a cop-out to me. If its Xmas eve, make it Xmas eve. Have the mayor address the city, have cars stuck in traffic trying to get home, carol singers on the streets and drunken bums ambling from the pubs. The whole game felt oppressive because I already believed this was Arkham City, not a city worth fighting for.
Ephemeris
Member
No smiles! It's a war out in these streets!
(Let that be an option for Nightwing though)
You get that for getting 100% in the game, which means doing all story and side mission stuff plus riddler collectibles on both saves. IATN is a separate mode not needed for 100%. You only get an achievement for beating it.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
So the game is more difficult than Arkham City? So I shouldn't put it on hard mode?
Did you play AA and AC on hard? If the answer is yes, then also play AO on hard. It is kinda challenging in the beginning when you are getting used to the combat tweaks but gets easier as you progress.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Yes and after that we buy the kids presents with our Bat-Credit card. lol
Finished the game last night. If it wasn´t for all the bugs in the game i´d say it´s probably the best game yet. At least best story. Still like the side missions in Arkham City better.
Barrow Roll
Member
I cosign this, but it'll never happen simply because too many would automatically see it as a step backwards.
Just before AC came out I decided to replay City, but I wanted to get it done ASAP so I skipped all the side content. Just following the story missions you can blaze through AC and it has a very nice flow. The point is, if you really want linearity or a faster paced narrative the open world isn't stopping you from getting it.
Messypandas
Member
Either I'm insanely lucky but I never had any glitches on the PS3 version. Even the Burnely Tower vent thing which I was prepared for worked fine. The only thing that was troublesome was the horrible draw distance and a random guard that wouldn't stop dancing.
I don't think open world is the problem. I think the problem is the developers never really use the city for anything more than travelling between interiors and man hole covers. Having a fight take place on the
was a step in the right direction, but they really need to do better.
I don't think open world is the problem. I think the problem is the developers never really use the city for anything more than travelling between interiors and man hole covers. Having a fight take place on the
Bridge
CrichtonKicks
Member
Even with today's patch the ending is not fixed:
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I can now see the basement but Bane isn't there
That is the thing. The idea of an open world Gotham City is crazy good. You just need to fill it with worthwhile content and other ways to travel (batwing etc.)
The open world in AC and AO is useless and that is why AA is still the best game in the series.
Yeah, I agree with this. You generally are just getting to a place, then the actual core of the game happens once you walk through a door. Sometimes there's a predator encounter before you get inside, but they typically pale to the sections they craft indoors.
It also bugs me how they feel the need to ramp up difficulty near the end just for traveling. Does anyone enjoy the snipers that are all over the rooftops by endgame? They're so damn annoying and not hard to deal with, but it's just time consuming and ultimately pointless.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
So when I played this I mostly chewed through the story and didn't pay too much attention to the objectives in "Dark Knight" "Worst Nightmare", etc.
I notice I have almost none of them and that's because you have to do them in sequence. Was that true in the previous games?
I notice I have almost none of them and that's because you have to do them in sequence. Was that true in the previous games?
Yup same. At least I can still do the challenge rooms but I have to do them from the main menu since we're at a part where we can't get to the batcave. I'm not sure if you get xp from doing them at the main menu.
There's a stupid workaround if you want to try it:
The game fucks up and skips a segment where you need to use the shock gloves to shock Bane back to life, but if you mash the button through the cutscene it will progress to the actual proper fight with no black screen.
DJ Lushious
Member
I'll give you that. AA definitely nails the mood, atmosphere, and environment. I especially love how in AA The Joker is constantly chattering about your progress or ousting you during the predator rooms. Makes the game feel more alive.
Holy shit! I figured out the cutscene problem! I was digging through the Steam forums for this game, and apparently if you go into the BMEngine.ini, and set AllowD3D11 to False, the cutscenes work like a charm! It disables DX11, but I wasn't using it anyway.
Fuck this game just got so much better for me because of that. I just passed the part where
Amazing scene all around. Writing, performance, animation. So much more excited to keep playing this now.
Fuck this game just got so much better for me because of that. I just passed the part where
You play as Joker/Red Hood and he talks with Harley for the first time.
The new patch today fixed the part of the fight that was being skipped yesterday, so we can't even get to that part you mentioned now.
They broke it even more? Hahaha, wow.
Spring-Loaded
Member
When did you escape from Arkham
Chris Murphy
Member
Not read much of this thread. Just wanted to say that I love the fighting in this. Seems a bit quicker, it throws more guys at you and the training wheels come off really early.
Very good.
I also feel that the cinematics are much improved. Although... because it hits you with a premise of all those assassins trying to kill you, the story doesn't have a good pace. You kind of know the whole premise at the start, so it doesn't get to take you down one path then surprise you. It basically gives you the world, tells you what is happening and then makes you have to go through all the checkpoints to get to the end.
The other games had a sense of wonder about them; you didn't really know how the story would progress.
All in all though I love the more aggressive Batman and feel that reviewers didn't give this the marks it deserved. I think they did a damn fine job and it should have got very similar scores to AC.
Very good.
I also feel that the cinematics are much improved. Although... because it hits you with a premise of all those assassins trying to kill you, the story doesn't have a good pace. You kind of know the whole premise at the start, so it doesn't get to take you down one path then surprise you. It basically gives you the world, tells you what is happening and then makes you have to go through all the checkpoints to get to the end.
The other games had a sense of wonder about them; you didn't really know how the story would progress.
All in all though I love the more aggressive Batman and feel that reviewers didn't give this the marks it deserved. I think they did a damn fine job and it should have got very similar scores to AC.
SJRB
Gold Member
Just finished the game. I'm not really sure what to think, really. The story was okay, but the "8 assassins out to get Batman" turned out to be a joke and sounded 10 times better on paper than how it turned out in the game. I really enjoyed the Deathstroke bossfight, and I can appreciate what they did with Firefly, but the rest is just mediocre at best. It didn't help that the final
encounter was bugged to hell and back, where he would constantly get stuck on geometry.
My biggest disappointment is the gameplay though. Towards the end it becomes more and more aparant how they designed a specific "Arkham gameplay design document" and just copy-pasted that endlessly.
- enter building
- walk through some doors/climb up some shafts
- room with thugs you have to fight
- predator room
- room with thugs you have to fight
- walk through some doors/climb up some shafts
- exit building
Especially the segment right before the
fight is extremely tedious in this regard. Returning to
was like they used a checklist of "things that need to be in an Arkham game". It was predictable from beginning to end.
In fact, a lot of segments are lifted straight out of Arkham City, especially nearly everything involving the glue grenade. Which, while we're at it, is the dumbest fucking gadget ever.
The game does have great moments though. The entire
was aces and deserved to be the finale of this game, it was 10 times better than anything else in the game.
Another thing Origins does way better is the character design. Batman looks awesome in his suit and much more intimidating than spandex Arkham City Batman. I also LOVED the voice acting, Batman is constantly angry and not taking shit from anyone and it was awesome. Baker nailed Joker too, most of the time. Very well done, proper naughty.
The lack of new gameplay, the decent setpieces and the horrendous bugs make me feel this is the least impressive game of the three so far.
Also - Batman's cape looks ridiculous in the endgame. It's not even cool, it just looks stupid as hell.
Also also - I'm completely clueless at to what the significance of that after-credit scene was.
Bane
My biggest disappointment is the gameplay though. Towards the end it becomes more and more aparant how they designed a specific "Arkham gameplay design document" and just copy-pasted that endlessly.
- enter building
- walk through some doors/climb up some shafts
- room with thugs you have to fight
- predator room
- room with thugs you have to fight
- walk through some doors/climb up some shafts
- exit building
Especially the segment right before the
Firefly
Blackgate
In fact, a lot of segments are lifted straight out of Arkham City, especially nearly everything involving the glue grenade. Which, while we're at it, is the dumbest fucking gadget ever.
The game does have great moments though. The entire
Gotham Royal
Another thing Origins does way better is the character design. Batman looks awesome in his suit and much more intimidating than spandex Arkham City Batman. I also LOVED the voice acting, Batman is constantly angry and not taking shit from anyone and it was awesome. Baker nailed Joker too, most of the time. Very well done, proper naughty.
The lack of new gameplay, the decent setpieces and the horrendous bugs make me feel this is the least impressive game of the three so far.
Also - Batman's cape looks ridiculous in the endgame. It's not even cool, it just looks stupid as hell.
Also also - I'm completely clueless at to what the significance of that after-credit scene was.
Are you guys seriously enjoying this game?
I'm about 10% into it and not feeling it at all and I LOVE Asylum and City.
The combat feels off...find myself whiffing at air occasionally. It doesn't feel as tight. Not feeling the story either. Game doesn't seem to run that great. I've had some serious frame rate hiccups.
I don't know...I'm thinking this game is dangerously close to trade bait, but damn I was looking forward to it for a very long time.
I'm about 10% into it and not feeling it at all and I LOVE Asylum and City.
The combat feels off...find myself whiffing at air occasionally. It doesn't feel as tight. Not feeling the story either. Game doesn't seem to run that great. I've had some serious frame rate hiccups.
I don't know...I'm thinking this game is dangerously close to trade bait, but damn I was looking forward to it for a very long time.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
If you are only 10% in, you will definitely not feeling any story... yet.
Monkeylord
Member
Dammit!
I'm post story and have run into my first real glitch (other than freezing).
I'm in the Gotham Royal, and only have 4 datapacks left to get in the entire game. I'm at the
I hope this bit will get patched too
I'm post story and have run into my first real glitch (other than freezing).
I'm in the Gotham Royal, and only have 4 datapacks left to get in the entire game. I'm at the
Carnival part, and the electricity and timer have come on where the thugs are being electrocuted, but the buttons and grapple points no longer show up, so there's absolutely no way I can proceed.
I hope this bit will get patched too
Ugh, goddammit. I've been really into this game thus far and all these reports about the ending being shot to shit with the new patch, resulting in a non-completable game, has really killed every ounce of want in me to continue playing it. I mean shit guys, even if I *wanted to* I'm too afraid the damned game is going to lock me into a position where I *can't* finish it.
Fuck this shit guys, I'm out until they fix this shit.
Also, can anyone point me in the direction of where the game keeps my saves? That way even if they patch it again and fuck up more shit at least I'll have a functional save stashed away for a day for when they finally get this game in an acceptable state.
Fuck this shit guys, I'm out until they fix this shit.
Also, can anyone point me in the direction of where the game keeps my saves? That way even if they patch it again and fuck up more shit at least I'll have a functional save stashed away for a day for when they finally get this game in an acceptable state.
Revolutionary
Member
it's in the Steam userdata folder. 20900 for me. Check the date of the folder to be sure.
vasametropolis
Member
Steam?
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\"YOUR PROFILE NUMBER"\209000
I copied everything in the 209000 directory and was able to restore no problem when I put it all back in last night.
Could just be franchise fatigue you're feeling. Origins doesn't mix things up dramatically. Felt like I was playing an AC expansion at times honestly.
Thanks guys, found it.One more thing though, can anyone tell me how close I am to the end?
I just got back to Blackgate after Bane blew up the batcave.
Now that I have a backup if I'm close enough I might just trudge on to the end just In case it works out for me.
Spring-Loaded
Member
you're close. You came real close to hitting that borked section too.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Finishe it and despite not going to the skyscraper section of Gotham I really enjoyed the game the ending felt kind of empty but it was a great game. I think it's my favourite Arkham game yet.
Spring-Loaded
Member
If you haven't played Arkham Asylum/City, play those. It's even better there because of the ridiculous sound of thunder that accompanies knockouts.
AO almost makes up for its lack of thunder with the shock gauntlets. Doing an aerial attack as a finisher while they're activated is deliciously brutal
It's awful, it's basically a really stripped down version of the 3 console/pc games with a really weak metroidvania design to it.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Oh man you're harshing my Batman buzz. Seriously? Reviews for it are kind of sparse out in the world but it looked to be pulling similar scores to AO...
Great.
Finished the
section by taking him down before he does the hostage section, which glitches and means the mission can't be completed. Luckily I had a cloud saved version of a save that was about an hour behind that one...
So I load that up, do everything over, complete
glitch free and then Exit the game and quit back to the Dashboard...
Corrupt save. Now i'm stuck with the original.
Finished the
Deadshot
So I load that up, do everything over, complete
Deadshot
Corrupt save. Now i'm stuck with the original.
Do you have a USB stick? I could fix that corrupted save for you.
Just finished it on Wii U and had zero glitches, lock ups, or corrupted saves. I absolutely loved the game, I'd put it behind Asylum and before City ranking wise. The story worked much better than City for me, and I really enjoyed the boss fights. I do agree with an above poster though, the hotel should have been the final level. It was the best level in the game and possibly the best in the series. I'll probably take a break from it for a bit before diving into NG+.
Was that
in the post credits scene?
Was that
CCH Pounder who voiced Waller
I finished it at 90% in 5 1/2 hours but it's like I said, it's a game that wanted to be the 2D castlevanias on DS/GBA and the console Arkham games at the same time and failed at both. The combat isn't even up to AA's level, it's way too cut down and simplistic. There are no real puzzles unless you count a terribly designed map that doesn't account for multiple levels on a floor leaving you confused for up to 30 minutes as to where to go as a puzzle (I don't). The boss fights are a joke and are worse than any in the 3 console games. It really makes the excessive detective vision problem worse too because many clues and secrets you have to move your finger over the screen in each room to manually scan them, they won't even show up in normal detective vision.
It's truly terrible.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Yeah. I would spoiler tag it the way I just did though