Batman: Arkham Shadow impressions videos:

Gamer_By_Proxy said:
True, but it's still the smallest subset of VR users I believe. So it won't sell a lot.
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As at May 2024, the Quest 3 was already at 15.5% of the active PCVR base. And that excludes people who use it purely as a standalone headset.

It's probably caught up with PSVR2 lifetime by now, and selling faster. And that's before the upcoming, Cheaper Quest 3S goes on sale later this year.
 
BennyBlanco said:
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There's a reason I wasn't talking quest 2. Has nothing to do with this game.
 
proandrad said:
WB will blame this game on why making single player games aren't profitable.
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Came here to post this...Publishers like WB will just use the low numbers to justify moving even more onto gaas garbage,though,after SS and Concord giving us a double whammy of a nuclear bombing I'd be shitting bricks as a CEO right now having to choose between the two and pleasing investors so I hope their diapers are already on.

I'm happy for VR users though,all 12 of them,that they seem to be getting another incredible game after HL Alyx, it's only been 4 years afterall.
 
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FeralEcho said:
Came here to post this...Publishers like WB will just use the low numbers to justify moving even more onto gaas garbage,though,after SS and Concord giving us a double whammy of a nuclear bombing I'd be shitting bricks as a CEO right now having to choose between the two and pleasing investors so I hope their diapers are already on.

I'm happy for VR users though,all 12 of them,that they seem to be getting another incredible game after HL Alyx, it's only been 4 years afterall.
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Asgards Wrath 2 is pretty incredible as was the first game. RE4 on Quest 2 was damn good. GT7 and RE8 on psvr2 are both amazing.

And I would say pcvr ue injector allows users to play hundreds of AAA games. Mechwarrior 5 and Ace Combat 7 are 2 examples I'm playing and they feel 95% native VR.

Not sure about the exact user base, but Quest 2 sold over 20 million in 2 years. Thats on par with the Xbox consoles. Quest 2 never had an exclusive like Batman either. Quest 3s is launching in 2 months too, which nearly cuts the price in half of the normal Quest 3. They'll easily be in the tens of millions before it's over in a couple years and hundreds of thousands if not millions will play batman. The marketing push behind this is nuts too.
 
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Game is releasing in two days and previews are saying basically "it's actually better than we expected"

Is there an embargo? I'm interested. We don't get a lot of exciting VR titles lately (Haven't bought anything since the Arizona Sunshine upgrade)
 
Its a shame because the game looks good and I love Batman but I have tried VR many times, the last one was like 2 months ago or so (Quest 3) and I get awful motion sickness and to be honest, while using those glasses, everything looks super blurry and with lots of jaggies. I dont feel immersed when graphics are so poor, I think VR has a long way to go
 
Gonzito said:
Its a shame because the game looks good and I love Batman but I have tried VR many times, the last one was like 2 months ago or so (Quest 3) and I get awful motion sickness and to be honest, while using those glasses, everything looks super blurry and with lots of jaggies. I dont feel immersed when graphics are so poor, I think VR has a long way to go
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Something was very wrong then. It excels in resolution quality. Quest 3 is a very crisp image quality. Its so good that lower texture quality will show immediately. Playing asgards wrath last night I could see details in the gauntlets with a super high resolution. I see more details in quest 3 VR than I ever do 4k non VR. Much of that is the pancake lenses.
 
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Romulus said:
Something was very wrong then. It excels in resolution quality. Quest 3 is a very crisp image quality. Its so good that lower texture quality will show immediately. Playing asgards wrath last night I could see details in the gauntlets with a super high resolution. I see more details in quest 3 VR than I ever do 4k non VR. Much of that is the pancake lenses.
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I tried Half Life Alyx with a 4090 and using steamlink. It was a jaggie mess at max settings and highest resolution and very blurry too. It made me really dizzy. The experience was so bad that after that I decided to return them back to the store. It didn't help either that the battery would drain so quick, like after 30 minutes I had already only 40% of battery left

I dont know maybe I should have tried more games but tbh I was really dizzy so I felt that this was not for me. I tried two years ago Oculus Rift S and the same story
 
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april6e said:
Jesus, this anti-consumer BS is so annoying. Meta is buying out every legitimate VR title when I want to play these games on superior sets like the Valve Index or Reverb G2. I don't want to buy a Quest 3 just to play 3 games and VR sets have terrible resell value so you can't even get your money back either like with a console/PC.
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Seem like they really want to corner the market and make Quest the only viable VR-gadget. Very anti-consumer, but logical from a big corpo's POV as it's a rather niche product.
 
Gonzito said:
I tried Half Life Alyx with a 4090 and using steamlink. It was a jaggie mess at max settings and highest resolution and very blurry too. It made me really dizzy. The experience was so bad that after that I decided to return them back to the store. It didn't help either that the battery would drain so quick, like after 30 minutes I had already only 40% of battery left

I dont know maybe I should have tried more games but tbh I was really dizzy so I felt that this was not for me. I tried two years ago Oculus Rift S and the same story
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Compression issues were likely the culprit, probably a subpar router. No one would ever describe that setup as a "jaggy mess" if its setup correctly. In fact on my subpar rig with Quest 3, when I let people try alyx for the first time, the image clarity is the first thing they bring up and how clear everything looks. We're past blurry VR 2024 if the setup is solid.

Now with my newer setup, VR can actually excel in image quality. Playing flight simulator is jaw dropping and most of this is because of resolution and pancake lenses.
 
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Gonzito said:
I tried Half Life Alyx with a 4090 and using steamlink. It was a jaggie mess at max settings and highest resolution and very blurry too. It made me really dizzy. The experience was so bad that after that I decided to return them back to the store. It didn't help either that the battery would drain so quick, like after 30 minutes I had already only 40% of battery left

I dont know maybe I should have tried more games but tbh I was really dizzy so I felt that this was not for me. I tried two years ago Oculus Rift S and the same story
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Maybe your expectations are too high, but you're not only wearing two screens on your face, the lenses are amplifying the image and that's why you see pixelation and screen door, so it's understandable it's not going to look as crisp as a 4K TV. (Suppossedly we need at least 16K for that)

Motion sickness issue varies from person to persom, but basically don't play games where you walk with the analog stick at first, and as soon as you feel off, don't force yourself through it, take a break and come back next day. Use a fan blowing to your direction , it works wonders. Resident Evil 7 broke me in just 5 minutes per session for one week, now I can play for hours and even games where you spin like crazy and hang upside down.

I think being actually inside the game makes up for the low resolution, though. I'm playing Silent Hill 2 on my Quest 2 with UEVR Injector and I have to lower the resolution to Wii levels and use DLSS Performance on top of that. ¿Does it look low res? Undeniably, but the tradeoff VS my 4K OLED TV at max settings is worth it to me, I just miss on so much when playing on a TV. But that is just my personal opinion.

 
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Gonzito said:
to be honest, while using those glasses, everything looks super blurry and with lots of jaggies. I dont feel immersed when graphics are so poor, I think VR has a long way to go
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Something was wrong with your setup or maybe you have discovered you're far sighted. "Blurry and full of jaggies" just isn't the experience one gets in these headsets, even with older games.
 
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I take notes of your comments. I might get them again if the reviews for this game are good and maybe I'll change my mind. I am very sensitive to jaggies but admittedly I only tried Half Life Alyx which uses MSAA only and maybe newer games have better AA which would really help for me because I am used to play at 4k with TAA or DLAA and everything is super clean and crisp without imperfections. Let's see I might will consider getting them again because I've been dreaming to play a new arkham game for a long time
 
ArtHands said:
No doubt the biggest VR game releasing this year.
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Yes. Pretty surprising the ps5 pro and every console is beneath the Quest Batman bundle of this list

Even the expensive Quest 3 is outselling them

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I never thought I'd say this, but thank goodness I'm a Verizon customer. They offered a special discount for their members on a Quest 3, and all headsets come with Batman: Arkham Shadow. Can't wait!
 
Can someone change the thread title. This may as well be the OT.

Releases in just under 12 hours in the UK. The most significant release in years.
If this doesn't drive sales then nothing will.
 
Idk

I played plenty of psvr2 games and GT, RE and horizon were amazing. All others … 🤮.

I got the quest 3 day one and I didn't even bother to play the free game , Asgard something, was like old low poly mobile game . So I'm not buying anything more than 5 us 😂 .

Alyx mod was pretty good, but I had my pc pushing the limits.

Will wait pc mod.
 
Swagballs717 said:
You're not getting that until we get full-dive VR where you plug yourself into the game
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Ironman_Bad said:
Yeah go outside and play it preferably in an actual alley
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cyberheater said:
One of the stupidest things I've read here for a while.
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Agree 100%. I will never understand this "All or nothing" mentality. There are tons of things traditional videogames can't do, and I never was like "Ehhh, I'll pass on video games until they are able to do this or that".
 
Guardian Monkey said:
No reviews beforehand? Why?
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To be honest, some of the bigger Quests game don't get reviews for some time after, especially from the bigger publications. It's not considered mainstream. There are some reviews coming in from independent sites I haven't read.
 
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VR Wolf gave his review on reddit:

10/10.
100%.
Game of the year.

I don't do this often but this game deserves it. If you're hesitant whatsoever about the quality of Arkham Shadow, I'm here to tell you this is a masterclass in VR gaming. It might push Half-Life: Alyx off the pedestal for me as best VR game of all time. It's that good.

I've played and beaten the game and if anyone has any questions, I'll do my best to answer them here in good time.

But seriously. Don't wait. Go play this game. Most reviews will be out tomorrow since that was our original embargo, but some will be posted right now. My full gameplay series begins tomorrow as well. Cheers!
 
Wry nice to see a VR game review with enthusiastic gusto. It's rare. looks like I will drop the $50 for a new Quest3 game.
Need to put down my walkabout putter and don the bat suit.
 
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