Batman v Superman's initial Doomsday concept art was similar to comics.

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Concept artist Jerad S. Marantz recently shared some illustrations be created for the Zack Snyder, some of which depict the creature with bony spikes on its head, shoulders and torso that will be familiar to readers of Superman comics.

“Here’s a very early Doomsday concept I did for Batman v Superman a couple of years back,” Marantz wrote. “I did several options for the character. It really was an honor working on such an amazing project with such an incredible team.”

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Doomsday could have looked like a 3-foot-tall Anna Nicole Smith and it wouldn't have changed a damn thing about the movie.
 
While a better design wouldn't have saved Doomsdays inclusion in BvS, it certainly would have helped. I'm still pretty dumbstruck at just how generic he looked, it's shocking that with all the talent they had on board that this was the best they could come up with.

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Depressing like a lot of the other decisions they made about that movie... Though I do love how Batman was merciless.
 
The bigger problem of Doomsday is....well, that he's Doomsday. He's a walking plot device rather than a character. The design isn't great, but it could have worked if Doomsday didn't exist as just a giant CGI monster for the gang to fight. And yes, I know he's just a giant doom machine in the comics too....well, then they should improve on the comics.

Especially since this Doomsday was made out of Zod's body. You could have easily had flashes of Zod's character in him, communicate that he has a sense of rage against Superman in particular rather than just in general. Something.
 
Why do movie studios always do the least interesting thing? Like why would they not go with something that looked more like doomsday, and thus more interesting? I mean the movie would still be shit but come on, you make Batman look like Batman, Superman like Superman, so why not the villain?
 
The only good thing about Doomsday is his origin story. Making him Luthor's pet was a wasted opportunity. He might as well have been any random monster. A slightly better design wouldn't really have changed anything.
 
Veelk said:
The bigger problem of Doomsday is....well, that he's Doomsday. He's a walking plot device rather than a character. The design isn't great, but it could have worked if Doomsday didn't exist as just a giant CGI monster for the gang to fight. And yes, I know he's just a giant doom machine in the comics too....well, then they should improve on the comics.

Especially since this Doomsday was made out of Zod's body. You could have easily had flashes of Zod's character in him, communicate that he has a sense of rage against Superman in particular rather than just in general. Something.
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Comic Doomsday has a backstory. It's thin, but they could have padded it, reworked it, fleshed it out. They could have just waited a few movies and used Doomsday as a metaphor for penance for Kryptonian sins. There's a lot of ways he could have been good.
 
Erv said:
Depressing like a lot of the other decisions they made about that movie... Though I do love how Batman was merciless.
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Often this type of criticism could be dismissed as insider cynicism that would have a negative effect on mainstream consumers (organic web shooters - that would have required Peter Parker to be the greatest mechanical chemist of all time and effectively opposite of the point of the everyman aspects of the character when presented in that medium) but in superman's case there was basically no reason to change from the comic.


And yes for the amount of effort they spent having us look at Zod's naked body about twenty seconds hinting at some aspect of his former persona would have been ok.
 
Veelk said:
The bigger problem of Doomsday is....well, that he's Doomsday. He's a walking plot device rather than a character. The design isn't great, but it could have worked if Doomsday didn't exist as just a giant CGI monster for the gang to fight. And yes, I know he's just a giant doom machine in the comics too....well, then they should improve on the comics.

Especially since this Doomsday was made out of Zod's body. You could have easily had flashes of Zod's character in him, communicate that he has a sense of rage against Superman in particular rather than just in general. Something.
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The problem with Doomsday is that they rushed him into this movie.

Doomsday should have appeared after a 3rd or 4th film after proper foreshadowing and hype, after which he'd manifest as a collective threat and unifying agent for the individual super heroes. His role was to bring them all together and to show the world that it needed to embrace heroes like Batman, Superman, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman, not vilify them.
 
ffejeromdiks said:
While a better design wouldn't have saved Doomsdays inclusion in BvS, it certainly would have helped. I'm still pretty dumbstruck at just how generic he looked, it's shocking that with all the talent they had on board that this was the best they could come up with.

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I forgot what Doomsday looked like and when I saw this I thought it was Killer Croc.
 
What they did with doomsday was a prime example of what I hate movie studios doing when adapting comics or games into films - start it looking/called something completely different to the source material and then at the end change it to something closer to the original to give original fans a bone.

They are so scared of losing potential revenue that they turn it into something that is generic and unmemorable for the general audience and alienates the original fans.
 
Dirtyshubb said:
What they did with doomsday was a prime example of what I hate movie studios doing when adapting comics or games into films - start it looking/called something completely different to the source material and then at the end change it to something closer to the original to give original fans a bone.

They are so scared of losing potential revenue that they turn it into something that is generic and unmemorable for the general audience and alienates the original fans.
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I don't think comic fans care that much about the sanctity of Doomday's character. He's not that well liked from what I've seen.

But there's no point in messing with it if you're just going to make it outright worse.
 
Looks better then the actual Doomsday we got. Honestly I like the white design a lot. Doomsday shouldn't have been in the film in the first place, and should have been saved for a later installment, instead of having him be used as a plot device for The Justice League, though.

Shaanyboi said:
And they said no to this version... why?
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Not cool and dark looking enough.
 
Veelk said:
The bigger problem of Doomsday is....well, that he's Doomsday. He's a walking plot device rather than a character. The design isn't great, but it could have worked if Doomsday didn't exist as just a giant CGI monster for the gang to fight. And yes, I know he's just a giant doom machine in the comics too....well, then they should improve on the comics.

Especially since this Doomsday was made out of Zod's body. You could have easily had flashes of Zod's character in him, communicate that he has a sense of rage against Superman in particular rather than just in general. Something.
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They kinda did though it is admittedly subtle and easy to miss.
 
Do people like this design or think it's good because it resembles the bad comic book design? What's in the movie stinks, but this is a lateral move.
 
Veelk said:
The bigger problem of Doomsday is....well, that he's Doomsday. He's a walking plot device rather than a character. The design isn't great, but it could have worked if Doomsday didn't exist as just a giant CGI monster for the gang to fight. And yes, I know he's just a giant doom machine in the comics too....well, then they should improve on the comics.

Especially since this Doomsday was made out of Zod's body. You could have easily had flashes of Zod's character in him, communicate that he has a sense of rage against Superman in particular rather than just in general. Something.
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Pretty much all you said. I was never a HUGE fan of the actual "Death of Superman" arc. I always thought "Funeral for a Friend" and "Reign of the Supermen" were far more interesting. And unfortunately the DCEU will not be able to do any of that.

Hell at least in the comic you had that build up with the containment suit and fighting off the C-level Justice League and having Superman confront Doomsday initially after catching Booster Gold.
 
wait it was Doosmday in BvS ?

I thought it was Bizarro ? Because Bizarro is supposed to be a clone of superman done by Luthor right ? Is this not what he did in the movie ?
 
Veelk said:
Are you referring to when he looks at the Superman statue for a few seconds?
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Yes. It was the only thing that seemed to divert Doomsday's attention away from just killing anything that happened to move. Then he made a point of destroying it.
 
IconGrist said:
Yes. It was the only thing that seemed to divert Doomsday's attention away from just killing anything that happened to move. Then he made a point of destroying it.
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Well....maybe.

He examined the statue, but then turned to look at superman. If he is a new intelligence altogether, he could just be remarking on the resemblance. Then he hit superman, then threw him through it, but it could have just been because it was the nearest solid thing for him to smash superman through.

I'm not really disputing you, exactly, because that's a valid way to read the scene. It's just ambiguous as well, and they really shouldn't have made it so.
 
Veelk said:
Well....maybe.

He examined the statue, but then turned to look at superman. If he is a new intelligence altogether, he could just be remarking on the resemblance. Then he hit superman, then threw him through it, but it could have just been because it was the nearest solid thing for him to smash superman through.

I'm not really disputing you, exactly, because that's a valid way to read the scene. It's just ambiguous as well, and they really shouldn't have made it so.
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Well, like I said, it's subtle. Even to its own detriment because, as you say, it's completely ambiguous. It's easy for me to look at it that way because it's just another instance in BvS where due to a lack of time or concern Snyder chose to make something important a throwaway moment. Luthor even has a line that explains what his plan for Doomsday was but they cut it and it can only be seen in some BTS footage. However, even if it had been included in either cut of the movie it's just a throwaway line, haha. Sort of like how Thor's presence in Avengers was explained. Where we, the audience, are just supposed to shrug and roll with it.
 
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