Sibersk Esto
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30 years?! I mean, I guess that answers who kid Clark was imitating with his cape
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Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
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30 years?! I mean, I guess that answers who kid Clark was imitating with his cape
that doesn't make sense, Alfred is what? 95-100 years old?
GentlemanCrow
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If true this is exciting. Robin memorial means Joker exists. A Batcave like a museum. Hmm, pinch me...
How far will they go into his history?
How far will they go into his history?
I say Bruce being in his 50's in this is a stretch.
Older Batman is a good play, I think. Having a Batman who is literally too old to be running around stopping criminals gives them an out for not making a new Batman film anytime soon (note there wasn't one on Finke's list) which leaves them free to work on other characters and frees Affleck up to do other things.
Just_myles
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30 years, I highly doubt that. 10 - 15, yes but 30, no way. Why have Alfred, flashbacks?
Bobby Roberts
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Sacrificial character.
broncobuster
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Duke trained a 60-year-old Rocky Balboa at 70. Anything is possible.
I can see Alfred dying, not killed, to leave Bruce without anyone else.
needs the big penny
And yet there is the bat signal? Not much of an urban legend if his signal is all over the skies.
Unless he just made that to lure Superman or something..
I could never buy into the "Batman's never been seen" thing if he's been around for longer than maybe a few years. It just doesn't make sense. He should start out as the urban myth, but once Gordon has a freakin bat signal and he has Robin tagging along, all bets are off. Some citizens would've seen them on the rooftops or stopping a crime, especially if a super villain was involved. We all know how showy the Joker is. I wouldn't mind a 45 yr old Batman that's slowing down, has let all the Robin's become their own hero, and has faded back into becoming the myth. 30 yrs of being Batman is far too much, he starts when he's like 25, so 20 years I can buy, but not 30. Affleck doesn't look 50 or 55 either, so that's another thing going against that.
Doctor Decimate
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Wikipedia tells me that Bruce is 55 in The Dark Knight Returns and Alfred is eightysomething.
Nobody has snapped a single photo in 30 years? Does Bruce only go out on patrol every other year?
Maybe, it will have MoS dissenters in cameos
Hope the anti-Superman stuff doesn't lead to two hours of Superman moping around like "Why don't they want me, man? :'("
If it's like TAS and the old comics where he only appears when something particularly crazy happens, I could believe it. If it's like the current comics where he's going out literally every night, then yeah. Not buying that at all.
If it's like TAS and the old comics where he only appears when something particularly crazy happens, I could believe it. If it's like the current comics where he's going out literally every night, then yeah. Not buying that at all.
Well that's how an urban legend works though
People may have seen him or taken pics, but people will not believe em
Same way, we don't buy pictures of the Yeti or believe in ghosts (Okay, I don't)
But in the last 10 years or so, it'd be damn near impossible for him to hide THAT WELL. Sure, back in the 90s and pre-9/11, he could be considered an urban legend or myth. But when you have all the security with cameras on every corner and everyone carrying phones with cameras in them, it takes a big suspension of belief for someone not to get a clear shot at some point.
I hope so. It would retroactively make Man of Steel better knowing that everyone didn't just let that shit slide.
Well part of the approach of Man of Steel (and I guess this new canon of films) is "what is the realistic reaction to this big crazy fantastical stuff happening". Anti-Superman protests makes perfect sense. I can imagine there'd be just as much of a split amongst the populace about peoples' feelings towards a superpowered alien, whose fight against an intergalactic general leveled a sizable chunk of Metropolis, as there is towards the movie itself.
It's not like comics don't do this shit already, either. Hell, the Justice League cartoon's best arc had to do with this very thing.
demosthenes
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Or that scene won't be in the movie and it was just to hype fans.
I wonder how much of this is reactionary writing based on how MoS was received, particularly the overwhelming negative reception of the Metropolis battle. By that I mean Snyder and writers reacting.
I guess this is the way to go since they can't really have the TDKReturns angle of Superman being a government stooge and the sentiment that comes along with it. Make the people hate him for what happen to Metropolis.
Ninja Scooter
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It's a Batman Superman movie. Suspension of belief is a requirement.
broncobuster
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Nolan's grounded Batman has an EMP devices to disable cameras and lights, and we know BvS is going bigger with gadgets. Hypothetically the rumor is true, it will be a handful of lines to establish Batman's place in the world. After comic-con I'm not convinced the films going forward will be grounded and need explanations for the why and how.
I disagree. The prevailing attitude should be that Superman saved the planet against certain doom, but there should also be a minority of detractors who are clearly composed of bigots, wounded, and paranoid (but they should be the fringe rather than the rule).
There's no way to credibly cast Superman as a monster. As far as the world is concerned, he's invulnerable, capable of crushing mountains, and crossing the globe in a blink. Zod showed humanity's powerlessness in the face of an evil Kryptonian. If you genuinely believed that Superman was as bad as, if not worse, than Zod then you wouldn't dare speak out against that unkillable monster who could fly you to the moon with no one the wiser or incinerate you with a mere glance. Thus your speech is plainly nonsense on its face... the only reason you're free to speak ill about Superman is because he's kind enough to let you do it, something plainly apparent to everyone.
It's only worth protesting Superman if you believe your speech can actually accomplish anything. Vent your feelings? Perhaps. Exile Superman? Where's he going to go... moreover, now that Earth knows it is no longer alone in the universe and Superman has proven himself your only viable anti-extraterrestrial contingency, are most going to join you in that opinion? Basically, at best you might hurt his feelings, which is kind of a ridiculous reason to protest.
Unless the protests relate to specific post-MoS action, they'd be utterly irrational to be the world's majority position, and even then, they'd simply be proof that Superman engages in dialogue and could possibly be swayed by such speech. Moreover, in the two-years between the films, it's not like Superman is just twiddling his thumbs and resting on the laurels of MoS... no, he specifically elected a job at the Daily Planet because he was going to intervene and his public debut has given him to green light... so protestors are going to come off kookier than Westboro.
"Down with Superman!"
"You mean the guy that saved the planet and thousands of others since then?"
Put another way, unless and until you find Kryptonite and unless and until you have something on par with Superman to address future alien invasions, even if you're Lex Luthor, you don't have to like Superman but you have to live with him.
Finaika
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look at this handsome bastard
He doesn't look 50.
Schweinehund
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50 year old bruce means no diana + bruce 
. Diana ideally won't have a man to swoon over though.
. Diana ideally won't have a man to swoon over though.
Finaika
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50 year old bruce means no diana + bruce
diana + clark
Doctor Decimate
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a 40 year old actor can play the character longer than a 50 year old actor, i imagine
50 year old bruce means no diana + bruce
Steve Trevor paid dust once again.
Meus Renaissance
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In an interview, Synder reacted to the criticism by saying that Superman "might have to deal with the possible consequences of that [battle/killing Zod]".
MisterHero
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Did Amy Adams ever stand a chance?
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Deleted member 102481
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He's suppose to of been Batman for 30 years but a Batman that has never been seen? So I guess the Joker didn't go crazy in this batworld but he also had a robin apparently.
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Deleted member 102481
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Wait how old is Batman in the dark knight rises? It's 8 years after the 2nd so I was assuming 48 or 50
but that Batman has been Batman in the Nolan world timewise what 12-15 years?
but that Batman has been Batman in the Nolan world timewise what 12-15 years?
Finaika
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Did Amy Adams ever stand a chance?
Personally, Amy Adams > Gal Gadot.
Joker goes out of his way to make his presence known, whether it be fucked up broadcasts, or just blowing shit up. Batman doesn't. And any news about him taking down killers and criminals could easily be glossed over with "police have taken this person into custody" without any mention of Batman. Again, he's an urban myth.
Nolan's Batman had only been Batman for a very short time. It was like a year between Begins and Dark Knight, then he stops for 8 years. He was maybe 40 or something by Dark Knight Rises.
The Joker can say whatever he wants, but he's also a fucking nutcase. Anything he says about Batman will go one of three ways:
1) Be swept under the rug by the police
2) Be dismissed because he's some bonkers killer
3) Be latched onto by some others who want to believe or prove the existence of "a Batman". Whether they be "fans" or conspiracy theorists, there are certainly people who probably believe that a Batman exists, but who is to say that any mainstream news outlet is even interested in entertaining such an idea without putting their credibility on the line? I mean even in Burton's Batman, Knox was a joke in the eyes of his colleagues for pursuing the Batman angle in his articles, and the cops would just tell him off whenever he asked questions.
What puts this whole thing into question is the Batmobile. Unless he has some crazy way of hiding that car when he drives it around, people are going to fucking notice it. But even then, do people see that as "OH IT'S BATMAN!" or do the just go "Ha, the city probably paid for that because they like to keep this little rumor around because it maybe attracts tourists or something"?
It's a rumor from Badass Digest that some people are taking to be fact.
If you cast Amy Adams in something, you better believe she's not gonna stand for a Superman-Lois Lane-Wonder Woman love triangle [and lose if it happens]. If anything, Adams would probably suggest Lois and Diana lez out to the island of Lesbos/Themyscira. Girrrrl Power, dammit!Did Amy Adams ever stand a chance?
broncobuster
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Schweinehund
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Plz no!
He turned down catwoman, he deserves it.
Diana needs her own identity before they even think about attaching her to anyone for real.
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