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Battlefield 1 single player trailer coming tomorrow

It just doesn't work. I have no doubt that DICE won't do the first World War any justice with their depiction. They don't have anything near the massive steel balls required like Yager did with Spec Ops: The Line. And they still scratch their head and wonder why people actually enjoyed the Bad Company games (hint, funny characters and a silly premise for a silly story in a silly setting weaves well with silly gameplay).

Actually, they know why it was great, but the problem is that they're convinced that the humor was why it didn't sell as well as the mainline games

"It is a discussion about niche and mass market, I think," he told us. "If you make your product more niche, you'll get more happy fans, but that audience will be smaller - some people won't care, some people will love it.

"When we did the original Bad Company and the sequel, we got a lot of criticism. Why would I play this? It's not a serious shooter, I don't care about this. I want a serious shooter with a more hard-boiled angle. And we thought it was fun! We loved it, we thought it was a great game. The narrative was amazing and the characters were amazing.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=720638

The reality is that BC sold less because it was a spinoff. Spinoffs, more often than not, don't sell as well as the mainline entries to games. Square's not expecting World of Final Fantasy to sell as much as Final Fantasy XV. Nintendo's not surprised that Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer didn't sell as much as New Leaf. So there should be little surprise about BC's performance. And it's not like they even performed poorly. It's hard to track down the sales for the original, but BC2 ended up selling more than 9m units. Which again is less than the mainline games, but that's to be expected.

It wouldn't even make sense for the humor to drag down the success as the series is primarily popular because of its mulitplayer, where the humor of Bad Company doesn't play much of a role. I mean, if they suddenly reveal tomorrow that BF1's campaign is going to be humorous like BC, is that somehow going to make it sell less all of a sudden? Of course it wouldn't.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Looking forward to seeing this. Not expecting much gameplay wise but it should at least have some good atmosphere and visuals on display.
 
Yikes, why bother? I'm day one on this game and I'm guessing I will never touch the single player. Too bad I can't buy a multiplayer only option and save $20.
 

Neolombax

Member
Were the campaigns that bad? I thought BF3 had a boring campaign, BF4 was okay. I play the campaigns for the set pieces spectacle. They're pretty fun.
 

Talonz

Member
They wasted resources on a SP part? Ugh.. what a shame. I'm inching even closer to canceling my preorder on Amazon now.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
Were the campaigns that bad? I thought BF3 had a boring campaign, BF4 was okay. I play the campaigns for the set pieces spectacle. They're pretty fun.
The beautiful part about BF is that every match is full of unscripted spectacle. I wish they had the balls to make the SP a collection of actual battles that you can influence.
 
I can't really get excited given DICE's previous campaign efforts. I'm honestly beginning to think the Bad Company 1 campaign was a fluke, BC2's campaign was mediocre, and 3 and 4's campaigns were just plain bad.

Hardline campaign was actually decent imo, but that was Visceral. Maybe DICE should outsource the campaign stuff going forward.

The reason BC1 is generally considered the best campaign (besides the humour and characters) was that it was the closest a DICE campaign has been to playing like the multiplayer Battlefield. A lot of the areas were very open and you could approach them however you wanted. Plus the level of destruction was a very fresh concept at the time. And because of this openness, you could sometimes get those "Battlefield moments" in the single player. These were much more exciting than any pre-scripted moments that plays out the same way every time.

Every other game since that one has become more and more linear trying to copy COD but doing it much worse. At this point in time, the single player has almost nothing in common with the multiplayer in the way it plays. It's just a corridor shooter with overly scripted set-pieces, poorly written obnoxious characters and has nothing that resembles the multiplayer.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I fucking hate Battlefield 3's turd of a campaign, but I like Battlefield 4's way, way more than any reasonable person should. I'm not even sure why. I've replayed it like...three times.
 

Giganteus

Member
I fucking hate Battlefield 3's turd of a campaign, but I like Battlefield 4's way, way more than any reasonable person should. I'm not even sure why. I've replayed it like...three times.
I'm the opposite. I liked BF3's campaign more than 4's, because of some of its scenarios it tried to set up and they were a little more believable. It also tried to convey a darker tone, which I slightly appreciated. I felt like with BF4 they stopped caring and made it more...loose, which is fine if you do it right, but they still managed to keep it mediocre. They're both kinda crappy, though.

But anyway, I expect nothing from the BF1 campaign. All DICE cares about are very shallow setpieces, so I doubt you'll get much out of the setting or the grittiness of WW1, just hollow hollywood style fluff that everyone forgets about. Or to put it simply: they do it to make their trailers and marketing look good. It can make for good footage.
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
Yeah, neither campaign was good, but BF3 had a far better one than BF4.

"Far better" is pushing it, I think. I still remember how much ridicule the campaign received, rightly so, for its absurdly scripted jet mission.

I found the co-op missions in BF3, when played with a friend, to be quite a bit more enjoyable than the actual campaign in either 3 or 4.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I thought the encounters were much, much better in BF4's campaign thanks to more open and layered playspace and better pacing between scripted sequences and stretches of play. BF3 took you out of control far too often for my liking, prioritising heavily scripted, borderline non-interactive narrative setpeices, and most of the encounters were in confined areas. Some of those pre/mid/exit level narrative sequences go on for way too long.

Probably had a better narrative though. I suppose I liked what BF3 was doing with story more than BF4, but I enjoyed actually playing BF4 infinitely more than BF3.
 

Nowise10

Member
Campaign is just going to be set on the multiplayer maps, so it already isn't off to a good start. If they can actually make a good campaign from the maps I would be 100% amazed and impressed.

But the fact Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 were revealed with their campaigns,, and how we haven't seen a single minute of campaign footage yet for Battlefield 1, it doesn't bare well. Obviously if they believed in it, they would be advertising it much much more.
 

Oneself

Member
Campaign is just going to be set on the multiplayer maps, so it already isn't off to a good start. If they can actually make a good campaign from the maps I would be 100% amazed and impressed.
Seriously? I didn't know about that.
Ugh, yuk.
I expected grand things ...


**OMG first DP in history, forgive me GAF!
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
I fucking hate Battlefield 3's turd of a campaign, but I like Battlefield 4's way, way more than any reasonable person should. I'm not even sure why. I've replayed it like...three times.

* Calls 911 *
BF4's campaign wasnt as bad as BF3's but dang, replayed 3 times?
 

eshwaaz

Member
Campaign is just going to be set on the multiplayer maps, so it already isn't off to a good start. If they can actually make a good campaign from the maps I would be 100% amazed and impressed.
Well, that doesn't sound good. When was this information revealed? This is the first I've heard of it.
 

Keasar

Member
Actually, they know why it was great, but the problem is that they're convinced that the humor was why it didn't sell as well as the mainline games

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=720638

The reality is that BC sold less because it was a spinoff. Spinoffs, more often than not, don't sell as well as the mainline entries to games. Square's not expecting World of Final Fantasy to sell as much as Final Fantasy XV. Nintendo's not surprised that Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer didn't sell as much as New Leaf. So there should be little surprise about BC's performance. And it's not like they even performed poorly. It's hard to track down the sales for the original, but BC2 ended up selling more than 9m units. Which again is less than the mainline games, but that's to be expected.

It wouldn't even make sense for the humor to drag down the success as the series is primarily popular because of its mulitplayer, where the humor of Bad Company doesn't play much of a role. I mean, if they suddenly reveal tomorrow that BF1's campaign is going to be humorous like BC, is that somehow going to make it sell less all of a sudden? Of course it wouldn't.
People are bloody stupid and most of the time have no idea what they really want, cause stuff like this:
Is freakin' hilarious and helped giving the characters in the Bad Company series so much personality compared to the Disgruntled Marine Grunt #536.

"Serious shooters", fuck me sideways, they wouldn't bloody dare to play a serious shooters. When they say "serious" they usually mean the "yaaaay bang bang I save day from big baddie" kind of story that's been done endlessly, serious would be shit that explored the human psyche like in Spec Ops: The Line that leaves you broken by the end, average little Timmy would come out with a fucking beard having grown 20 years after playing a game like that and contemplate his love for shooters.

Which campaign will be worst; BF1 or Titanfall 2?
The good indication for TF2 have been so far that the campaign is built a lot around the movement mechanics and they also seem to have injected some character personality between your main character and your Titan. I was actually genuinely surprised to see that you had dialogue selection.
 

matthieuC

Member
I could actually see this campaign being really interesting. They have a great setting to work with this time around so hopefully they can pull it off.
 
Seek help.
I actually enjoyed the BF3 campaign way more than the BF4 campaign simply because Dutch (the black squad made who is along for... every... single... mission) is probably the most insufferable character in the history of dudebro military shooters (and seriously, that is a pretty low bar already) and I had to suffer him TWICE (just to unlock the campaign locked guns on both the PC and PS4, if it wasn't for the P90 I would probably not even have bothered enduring the torture a second time even for them, I think that says it all). I think forcing him to blow himself up at the end of the game with a press of a button actually turned into one of the most satisfying moments in gaming for me... for all the wrong reasons. The worst thing is that no matter how many times you shoot him, lob grenades at him or how often he gets headshotted by the enemies you just can't stop him and have to live with him for the entire rest of the game, till the very last minute. Meanwhile the best character (or rather the only decent character) in the game (Dimitri) gets killed off in the very same level he is introduced.

At least the BF3 characters had the decency to be unannoying cardboard cutout characters in the worst cases, had a minimum of personality and some were actually pretty cool (the Spetznatz, all three of them in both missions you can actually play them, the Paris mission followed by the Villa coincidentally were the best levels in the game by a long shot).

Actually have some hopes for the BF1 campaign, don't care if they reuse MP maps, BC2 did that too and the SP was very enjoyable, what counts is the characters and presentation.
 

Nowise10

Member
Well, that doesn't sound good. When was this information revealed? This is the first I've heard of it.

I probably shouldn't have worded it like it is confirmed, but I've been keeping up to date with campaign information, and they have showed a couple glimpses in the trailers for Battlefield 1, and you can clearly see all the footage so far have been on the multiplayer maps. Their have been a few scenes however that aren't, one being the scene of the women killing the man in the desert at night. However, DICE has said the campaign is more open rather then being linear like previous games allowing you to play how you want, which to me translates into it being on the multiplayer maps.
 

Vidpixel

Member
After being burned by both Battlefield 3 and 4's campaigns, I'm going into Battlefield 1's single-player with the most tepid of expectations. Here's to hoping Dice finally hits their stride with this one, as the setting of World War I has huge potential.
 
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