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[bighugeguns]

There aren't many good sources for them to get organic honest feedback, most of these platforms are so utterly compromised, it's insane.

You could actually straight up devalue the property by running AI ops across the board as an external party, feeding the company the craziest reinforcement bullshit like this devil guy is doing here, only multiplied by thousands.

Could also be streamers doing this, or deranged fans, negativity eats into their own business, they'll skew perception for their own sake, at the expense of the company's product.

Maybe devaluation fuckery is a good thing, it'll ultimately rip the IP away from EA.

Lots of malicious positivity, holy shit working on this game must feel like you're constantly taking acid.

 

[Jibran#one]

A server browser for all game modes and not just portal would make this game near perfect

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

But the problem the posters responding to you are pointing out, aren't the specific types of aim flicks you are showing in those gifs.

The posters above are specifically talking about the full 180 flicks to instant perfect aim sights. That is a spider sense level of pinpointing an enemy location behind you, a few of which did not even shoot him yet but were simply running.

There is a clear difference between your gifs and the twitter video above.

I never said those exact words.

Highlighted above...? Sure seems like you believe in their existence. Perfect 180 flicks, a few of which did not even shoot him yet:

Everything has a percent chance to occur in a video game.

No?

Something with a very low percent chance, happening at a high rate, can appear suspicious.

Okay?

Do you agree?

I mean.. it's like a dozen clips from presumably a full day of streaming.

 

[March Climber]

Highlighted above...? Sure seems like you believe in their existence. Perfect 180 flicks, a few of which did not even shoot him yet:

And now you see why I didn't bother replying to him. I just did the exact same thing he did, to you, and it appeared ridiculous to you. So I'm not going to humor him the same way you wouldn't humor the first sentence of my response to you.

Okay?

I mean.. it's like a dozen clips from presumably a full day of streaming.

Thank you for halfway agreeing on the matter. Good day sir.

 

[Fahdis]

Ok, so I played 15 hours, did all challenges.

- Game feels a bit too fast, its not tactical like BF3 or BF4. It's in between COD and old BF3.

- In older titles, I had to mitigate between conserving my ammo in the old games and use my secondaries more cleverly, not spray and get 3 kills at the same time. I remember I used burst fire to get anywhere because the guns back in the day seemed more realistic due to recoil. This game rewards you for being aggressive.

- Alot of the morons online have no idea how to play BF because they don't revive their fellow players and opponents just 1 Kill shotty everyone in the Line of Sight. That thing is too powerful.

- I did encounter 1 cheater who had perfect shots at me from very far away from an SMG as soon as I looked at him with him running sideways not even seeing me from that far, literally twitch flick killed me.

- Tanks and other large artillery don't last too long. The bazooka is way too powerful. But then again thet respawn very fast too.

- I think Recon having C4 is sort of odd when it should have Claymore. Give that shit back to support.

- Maps are super small for some reason in Conquest and Breakthrough. But it keeps the action constant. I like it and don't at the same time.

- I understand minimaps have been the standard for a long long time and harcore servers exist. But fuck minimaps, it gives out your location to any minimap using whore wether you're running or gunning.

Anyways, it lacks atmosphere like BF1. There was just something so special about it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I think only MAG managed to do 256, and I don't recall if anyone has tried that high of a number since then.

Planetside 2 did more.

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

And now you see why I didn't bother replying to him. I just did the exact same thing he did, to you, and it appeared ridiculous to you. So I'm not going to humor him the same way you wouldn't humor the first sentence of my response to you.

Umm, except that he didn't. The point of contention was the same. 'perfect 180 flicks' that don't exist. You went into a thing about how 150 is as good as 180... okay... the clip on the mountain map that everyone was losing their mind over was a 90 degree flick. And he didn't flick onto the enemy through the wall. He flicked to the wall near the enemy (but not actually that close), didn't let go of the trigger (because he's running an LMG), and when he gets over there and doesn't hit anything he stops shooting. Then he adjusts his aim to strafe the corner, doesn't see the guy right away so he starts sprinting. As it happens the guy becomes visible just as he's giving up on thinking he will get an angle on the guy, but he reacts to the situation and makes a very normal looking kill.

But the most important context people don't seem to be considering is that the 'through the wall' guy was always his initial target. He was on the minimap, the streamer was angled to round the corner, and in fact he was obviously VERY late in seeing the first guy he kills on the right side of the screen... which is obvious because the guy is out in the wide open as the clip starts, and it still takes streamer guy another 10 frames to react to him.

Thank you for halfway agreeing on the matter. Good day sir.

 

[ValiantInstance]

2 months feels like a long time until launch. Almost in the territory of losing the hype that they've built up this week.

 

[bighugeguns]

2 months feels like a long time until launch. Almost in the territory of losing the hype that they've built up this week.

It's all fun and games until you realise COD is included in gamepass, Black Ops 7 will likely as well. These cats want full price for this game, going to be a very difficult sell, ultimately.

Trying to make BF a hybrid COD was the single dumbest decision they could have made, the lesson wasn't learnt with 2042 but it sure as shit will be learned now.

I look forward to hear who or what their executives will blame for poor sales and retention on this time. The studio will be gored for their FUCKING arrogance.

(pretend you saw me throw an office chair through a window for emphasis)

All the same old bullshitters online singing their same old tired songs while yet another BF game dies in the womb.

 

[Naked Lunch]

You get 2 Squads that are using tactics and they will destroy the other team of player that think there is nothing but "brain dead strategy" in this game.

All they need to do is fix a couple things and they may have the best battlefield ever.

The capture points alone are mere seconds away from each other in almost all of the maps.
And the capture zones (designated by the barriers on the ground) themselves are the smallest they have ever been in the 25 years the series existed.
This equates to the ultimate dumb down of the gameplay formula. 'Braindead' design.
Shallow with no lasting depth.

Of course 2 coordinated squads could own these entire maps against the masses. Thats actually not a good thing and speaks for how trash and un-Battlefield like these maps play.

The only thing im hoping for is they put these maps out to lure the COD crowd in - and the more traditional BF maps are in the full release. But this beta didnt give me much confidence.

 

[ValiantInstance]

It's all fun and games until you realise COD is included in gamepass, Black Ops 7 will likely as well. These cats want full price for this game, going to be a very difficult sell, ultimately.

Trying to make BF a hybrid COD was the single dumbest decision they could have made, the lesson wasn't learnt with 2042 but it sure as shit will be learned now.

I look forward to hear who or what their executives will blame for poor sales and retention on this time. The studio will be gored for their FUCKING arrogance.

(pretend you saw me throw an office chair through a window for emphasis)

All the same old bullshitters online singing their same old tired songs while yet another BF game dies in the womb.

Personally I wouldn't play Black Ops 7 if I was getting paid to do so, but to each their own.

 

[bighugeguns]

Personally I wouldn't play Black Ops 7 if I was getting paid to do so, but to each their own.

I'm going to make an enormous effort to stop thinking about Battlefield, it all makes me want to drink again.

Not at all happy with COD either.

Best of all? The real BF devs are out there making a fucking Concorde clone, this is hell.

 

[Branded]

aaaand that was the last match before next thursday

Waiting for the full game is gonna be hard, hell even for the next beta

You can just enjoy 2042 in the mean time.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Snap shooting that is consistently inaccurate and needs correction nearly every single time?

And I've been doing flicks like that for years. It's not that hard.

That is because aimbots can be adjusted down from 100% accuracy just to leave some doubt which is why I called this person suspicious

And you are right, snap shooting isn't terribly hard but again that lock on and takes a shot at around the 14 second mark on someone they couldn't see happened way to fast to just be targeting someone on the minimap

 

[ValiantInstance]

I'm going to make an enormous effort to stop thinking about Battlefield, it all makes me want to drink again.

Not at all happy with COD either.

Best of all? The real BF devs are out there making a fucking Concorde clone, this is hell.

Zampella has enough credit in the bank for me to buy it on launch. Call of Duty 4 is in my top 5 games of all time and I liked Titanfall.

 

[bighugeguns]

Zampella has enough credit in the bank for me to buy it on launch. Call of Duty 4 is in my top 5 games of all time and I liked Titanfall.

My only response to you is, whatever happens, it wasn't his fault.

You can get the donkey to the water, but you can't force it to drink.

 

[Luipadre]

You can just enjoy 2042 in the mean time.

Thats a wrap for week 1. Imo this was DICE biggest and best beta to date. Minimal issues with huge playernumbers. Need some bugfixing and tweaking, but overall a pretty polished product especially for a DICE game lol and they still have 2 months to polish and balance. They will test changes in labs too between release and beta so im really confident about this one. I hope we'll get atleast 2 maps/seasons with this game. I wouldn't mind a new and a remastered map either/ season. They will build upon this good foundation and will add more maps, weapons, vehicles, gadgets etc. Hopefully naval warfare will be one of the themes of the seasons, i really miss it

I probably gonna install BV1 or 5, because the next 2 months will be long. Really excited for this one

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[bighugeguns]

Oh, fuck Tom Henderson! Shill rat bastard of a man. It's his fucking fault I blew $60 on that aborted horse fetus called BF 2042.

Between him and that other dishonest twat "jackfrags" they've done more than enough damage to the franchise. Fucking snake oil salesmen.

 

[Luipadre]

 

[F355]

Into a potential winner with the is game, my takes

- the sniper flash should go, it looks ridiculous and if you happen to get killed by one it shows you the location anyway, either remove it entirely, make it so you need to be looking through the spotter scope to see the flash, or make it a random flash whilst their hard scoping, like the sun hitting the lens

- the automatic spotting should be removed entirely

- keep the kiddy content to cod/Fortnite

-diverse map, BF4 had an incredible amount of diverse maps

 

[SatansReverence]

That is because aimbots can be adjusted down from 100% accuracy just to leave some doubt which is why I called this person suspicious

And you are right, snap shooting isn't terribly hard but again that lock on and takes a shot at around the 14 second mark on someone they couldn't see happened way to fast to just be targeting someone on the minimap

Ah yes, the pivot to "soft aim" the moment someone points at the aim isnt even remotely as clean as first thought.

Again, what you are ignoring about the 14 second mark is that the flick lands no where near the player. Not even close.

The shots at the wall are irrelevant because there is no one standing behind that part of the wall.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Ah yes, the pivot to "soft aim" the moment someone points at the aim isnt even remotely as clean as first thought.

Again, what you are ignoring about the 14 second mark is that the flick lands no where near the player. Not even close.

The shots at the wall are irrelevant because there is no one standing behind that part of the wall.

I am not trying to change your mind, we can agree to disagree

I say cheating you say they are really good

I don't mind if we dont agree

 

[clarky]

 

[STARSBarry]

After playing all weekend well after getting all the challanges done. God I hope they rethink the defualt being unlocked weapons and switch it too the defualt being locked weapons to classes and the special players mode being open instead.

It was fucking stupid watching someone roll support, only for them to pick a sniper rifle and camp on at the back if the map next to their ammo crate. Only to die and then spend 4 minutes running back to same hill only to be perfectly headshot again.

It was awful. Otherwise, yeah it was more fun than iv had in battlefield for a long time.

 

[Branded]

Final frame guy shoots himself in his dislocated foot. Very sad.

 

[Fake]

Actually a marker indicating an enemy popped up on his mini map in that same direction. Its not unreasonable to think that he just has very fast reflexes and is extra good at shooters.

Doesn't answer the 'OPS, SHOT IN THE WALL' kill.

 

[clarky]

That snap and lock on at 14 seconds on the guy behind the wall is pretty suspicious

Just my 2 cents.

Game has been out like what 4 days and a random twitter guy is playing like one of the 0.000001% FPS GOD's.

Playing like this takes huge amounts of talent and practice, if its even possible at at all.

But sure, it's not a aimbot.

Also minus point for the cat ears.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Just my 2 cents.

Game has been out like what 4 days and a random twitter guy is playing like the 0.000001% FPS GOD's.

Playing like this takes huge amounts of talent and practice, if its even possible at at all.

But sure, it's not a aimbot.

Also minus point for the cat ears.

If its an aimbot (which I think it is) its just not set to 100% targeting, more like 80% so there are occasional misses

Even right after the 14 second shoot the wall locking onto someone behind it at around 18 seconds they make a kill and instantly lock onto something else and start shooting another wall

I don't buy it being legit

 

[clarky]

If its an aimbot (which I think it is) its just not set to 100% targeting, more like 80% so there are occasional misses

Even right after the 14 second shoot the wall locking onto someone behind it at around 18 seconds they make a kill and instantly lock onto something else and start shooting another wall

I don't buy it being legit

If its legit then they'd be world champion at any game they played. I looked at the Youtube page and the COD gameplay is way above any level of Pro play.

It looks unnatural to watch. Also looks like he's been banned from Twitch lol.

EDIT *****RED ALERT****** Apparently this particular streamer is trans and the internet is just bullying someone with exceptional aim. If you're reading this then I'm very sorry.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

If its legit then they'd be world champion at any game they played. I looked at the Youtube page and the COD gameplay is way above any level of Pro play.

It looks unnatural to watch. Also looks like he's been banned from Twitch lol.

I watched some of their clips as well and you are right, something is off

I know the good cheat engines can not be totally stopped and leave enough doubt that its not blatantly obvious

And I also agree that I have watched COD pros play and this person is above that

 

[Mattyp]

Played a few hours of the dom maps, feels much more like CoD than it does BF3/4 at all personally.

The smaller maps weren't great, but haven't had time to play in large style conquest yet maybe next weekend.

 

[INC]

to add to the flick debate, this dude is an old bf4 player and has some unreal aim and flicks, and it dont look anywhere near as snappy as the other video being shown

this that proof, no, just something to compare



his bf4 videos

 

[R6Rider]

One of the last matches I played last night I decided to try out the second LMG.

Holy shit that thing is amazing. On that longer map (with many snipers) I found a good spot that overlooked D, E, and partially F and C and was SHREDDING people almost the entire match. I unlocked almost 25 attachments in one match for it.

Comes with an ACOG and when you go prone it gets a huge bonus from it's grip-pod.
-

Aside from that the guns need more recoil. A few attachments not the AR, Carbines, and SMGs and they are laser beams. Worse than most of the 2042 weapons.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

to add to the flick debate, this dude is an old bf4 player and has some unreal aim and flicks, and it dont look anywhere near as snappy as the other video being shown

this that proof, no, just something to compare

Skimming through that clip it looks like a very good player that is more natural looking

They are not snapping onto people behind walls and to me right off the bat around the 13 second mark looks like they even run right past an enemy on there right

 

[Dibils2k]

it really grew on me as the days went, by the end i am in love with the game, brought back many good feeling of old BF games

cant wait for next weekend and new map

 

[INC]

it really grew on me as the days went, by the end i am in love with the game, brought back many good feeling of old BF games

cant wait for next weekend and new map

tbh, its gonna be hard to have to wait til october after next weekend

 

[Kenpachii]

Had a lot of fun this weekend, can't wait for the next beta. Kinda shame they aren't going to include in the next beta a bigger map, all maps are kinda small.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

it really grew on me as the days went, by the end i am in love with the game, brought back many good feeling of old BF games

cant wait for next weekend and new map

I was kind of a wait and see how the reviews were but already wanting to jump in and play

This next weekend will make or break it for me, really want to see how the infantry only modes feel

 

[INC]

I was kind of a wait and see how the reviews were but already wanting to jump in and play

This next weekend will make or break it for me, really want to see how the infantry only modes feel

well theyre dropping the new york map, and thats 100% infantry conquest based.

wished theyd dropped firestorm instead, i know how the infantry plays already off cario and battery maps

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

well theyre dropping the new york map, and thats 100% infantry conquest based.

wished theyd dropped firestorm instead, i know how the infantry plays already off cario and battery maps

I mainly want to see how TDM style games feel which is what I play most in COD

I need a game that provides that quick hop into action and get a few matches under my belt in like 30 minutes type of fix that COD usually provides me (before SBMM fucks me over)

 

[INC]

I mainly want to see how TDM style games feel which is what I play most in COD

I need a game that provides that quick hop into action and get a few matches under my belt in like 30 minutes type of fix that COD usually provides me (before SBMM fucks me over)

but it had DOM in the beta?

 

[DryvBy]

Everything else i loved about the game, but I have some minor issues and one hopeful request.

1. Bring back hardcore: I like having modes with 0 hud, friendly fire, let bullets to kill someone, etc.

2. Let me pick it I'm a female or male. Randomly being a female is annoying. I don't care if you have a female option, just let me pick.

Thats really it. I loved everything else.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

but it had DOM in the beta?

Yeah I played that mainly as a TDM mode

 

[GoldenEye98]

Haven't played the beta but there are some things I've seen in footage that seem a bit unbalanced. The shotgun looks pretty strong. But even more so the sniping looks a little too laser beemy... even at a distance. Like is there any bullet dropoff? There are guys getting these almost nonchalant chain kills at a crazy distance. Now it's possible I'm just getting the best game clips of just very good players but still.

 

[clarky]

Yeah I played that mainly as a TDM mode

I played DOM and KOTH almost exclusively one night with a couple of the lads from my COD group and they loved it. They will be in heaven with TDM next week, although I'd like to see Kill Confirmed rather than just straight TDM, or maybe a 4v4v4v4 mode. Personal preference of course.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I played DOM and KOTH almost exclusively one night with a couple of the lads from my COD group and they loved it. They will be in heaven with TDM next week, although I'd like to see Kill Confirmed rather than just straight TDM, or maybe a 4v4v4v4 mode. Personal preference of course.

Would love some kill confirmed as well but straight TDM is usually my go to

Not normally a huge objective based player in these style of games, usually save that for Hell Let Loose

 

[Fake]

I missed the MP5, but the M4A1 did a decent job.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Infantry only map huh... fucking lame.

 

[clarky]

Infantry only map huh... fucking lame.

Would be nice to get a big map for sure but I had so much fun this weekend I'm really not bothered. They are coming.