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Begun the AI Wars have
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Punished Miku
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I thought it was the biggest threat to mankind since low birth rates. I guess he changed his mind.
Elon's one of the founders of OpenAI, but things got messy when he tried to take over the company. After being rejected he allegedly walked without providing promised funding, which forced OpenAI to jump in bed with Microsoft:
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Elon Musk reportedly tried and failed to take over OpenAI in 2018
OpenAI could have reportedly been another Musk property.
www.theverge.com
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Now here’s a path not taken: according to a new report from Semafor, Elon Musk tried — and failed — to take over ChatGPT creator OpenAI in 2018.
Musk was part of a small group that founded the AI lab in 2015 as a nonprofit, intending the firm to share research for the wider benefit of society. But by early 2018, says Semafor, Musk was worried the company was falling behind Google. He reportedly offered to take direct control of OpenAI and run it himself but was rejected by other OpenAI founders including Sam Altman, now the firm’s CEO, and Greg Brockman, now its president.
Crucially, when Musk walked away from the company — he resigned from its board in 2018 citing a conflict of interest with his work at Tesla — Semafor says he also reneged on a promise to supply $1 billion in funding, contributing only $100 million before he walked. This left OpenAI with a problem, as its work developing large-scale AI models like image generator DALL-E and the text-generating GPT series was racking up huge bills. So by 2019, OpenAI announced it was creating a new for-profit entity to fund its research and quickly became closely entangled with Microsoft, which supplied billions in funding and resources while securing exclusive licenses to use OpenAI’s tech in its products.
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Punished Miku
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I would have never guessed that. Interesting. All I ever heard from him on the subject was multiple dire warnings. Sam Harris mentioned talking to him about it a few times as well. I guess he was trying to push forward on it that whole time? I dont really know what to make of that.Elon's one of the founders of OpenAI, but things got messy when he tried to take over the company. After being rejected he allegedly walked without providing promised funding, which forced OpenAI to jump in bed with Microsoft:
Elon Musk reportedly tried and failed to take over OpenAI in 2018
OpenAI could have reportedly been another Musk property.
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Now here’s a path not taken: according to a new report from Semafor, Elon Musk tried — and failed — to take over ChatGPT creator OpenAI in 2018.
Musk was part of a small group that founded the AI lab in 2015 as a nonprofit, intending the firm to share research for the wider benefit of society. But by early 2018, says Semafor, Musk was worried the company was falling behind Google. He reportedly offered to take direct control of OpenAI and run it himself but was rejected by other OpenAI founders including Sam Altman, now the firm’s CEO, and Greg Brockman, now its president.
Crucially, when Musk walked away from the company — he resigned from its board in 2018 citing a conflict of interest with his work at Tesla — Semafor says he also reneged on a promise to supply $1 billion in funding, contributing only $100 million before he walked. This left OpenAI with a problem, as its work developing large-scale AI models like image generator DALL-E and the text-generating GPT series was racking up huge bills. So by 2019, OpenAI announced it was creating a new for-profit entity to fund its research and quickly became closely entangled with Microsoft, which supplied billions in funding and resources while securing exclusive licenses to use OpenAI’s tech in its products.
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TransTrender
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He wants to be the one in control of it.
Punished Miku
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Yeah, definitely would make sense. I definitely don't follow him in as much detail as you do. Would be interesting if all his warnings started when he lost control of ChatGPT. No idea though. Would have to actually dig into the weeds.
And that's not to say I don't agree there are some risks. Just hard to read his motives.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
I always thought AI was a joke and a buzzword thrown about by tech companies but seeing how much it has advanced recently is scary.
It's exciting in many ways but we need to make sure the AI doesn't get out of control and take over! Either it will greatly benefit humanity or it will destroy us. It'll be interesting to see what things look like in 5-10 years.
It's exciting in many ways but we need to make sure the AI doesn't get out of control and take over! Either it will greatly benefit humanity or it will destroy us. It'll be interesting to see what things look like in 5-10 years.
funkygunther
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Is it time for Musk to pretend he's a tech savant to get some more investor capital already?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Actions always speak louder than words.
Two weeks ago Elon released a statement urging a six month AI pause for the safety of humanity:
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Elon Musk and others urge AI pause, citing 'risks to society'
Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts and industry executives are calling for a six-month pause in developing systems more powerful than OpenAI's newly launched GPT-4, in an open letter citing potential risks to society.
www.reuters.com
Please, everyone else, you must halt your AI R&D immediately for the greater good while I work on launching my own AI company.
Goalus
Member
Interesting.
So MS saved OpenAI? They really are the good samaritans of this industry!
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Punished Miku
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I actually believed him on that one. He got me again!Actions always speak louder than words.
Two weeks ago Elon released a statement urging a six month AI pause for the safety of humanity:
Elon Musk and others urge AI pause, citing 'risks to society'
Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts and industry executives are calling for a six-month pause in developing systems more powerful than OpenAI's newly launched GPT-4, in an open letter citing potential risks to society.
Please, everyone else, you must halt your AI R&D immediately for the greater good while I work on launching my own AI company.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
How many companies can one guy run simultaneously?
LaughingStock
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Kilau
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ReBurn
Gold Member
Yes but doge instead of turd emoji."Elon AI, why have you launched all the nukes?"
Elon AI: ""
Salz01
Member
The acceleration in ai tools and modeling is crazy. Been trying to look into stable diffusion recently again, blows my mind. Coupled with stuff like Gen 2 https://research.runwayml.com/gen2 and with chat gpt programs, it’s exciting and scary at the same time. With how the community is all on board and accelerating the advancements, no way one person like Elon Musk will control it.
ResilientBanana
Member
How do you reverse entropy?
ReBurn
Gold Member
Application of force.
Kilau
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Mihos
Gold Member
Real Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI Joe Rogan Debuts Podcast
"The Joe Rogan AI Experience" debuted earlier this month and is nearly indistinguishable from "The Joe Rogan Experience" leading the real-life comedian and podcaster to issue a warning.
toofab.com
One day, the AI will have better ratings than the real thing
Musashipan
Member
Crazy how fast AI is advancing..
Actors will become obsolete, amongst other crazy stuff
Actors will become obsolete, amongst other crazy stuff
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Just as I thought pages back.
I knew Musk was snooping around AI. He's the kind of tech guy to jump in on AI and was bitching about current AI programs. All so he can play catch up asap.
sleipnir
Neo Member
It really is a strange new world, and one that seems to be moving a such a rapid rate, which does raise concerns, even if it is fascinating. AI and deep-fakery seems like a recipe for disaster, or at the very least making it difficult to find the truth of things. I really don't know where we're headed with all this, and what the benefit will be to most of us.
Vestal
Junior Member
This is an arms race and there is no stopping it. The only thing we can hope for is that companies like OpenAI, Google and MS are adhering to some sort of ethical standard or cannon. The world is going to go through a whirlwind shift over the next 10-20 years because of AI. Excuse the hyperbole, but this will be to human knowledge what penicillin was to medicine.
The one thing that terrifies me is that we don't have people in Governments that either understand the ramifications of this technology, or judging by the leak a couple of weeks back have no freaking clue how to deal and manage technology. Investment and continued research into AI is paramount, but that must go hand in hand with research into the understanding of Neural networks/language models and development of tools to contain and restrict these models.
The one thing that terrifies me is that we don't have people in Governments that either understand the ramifications of this technology, or judging by the leak a couple of weeks back have no freaking clue how to deal and manage technology. Investment and continued research into AI is paramount, but that must go hand in hand with research into the understanding of Neural networks/language models and development of tools to contain and restrict these models.
Zathalus
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Just watching this all shake out. The tech world is one long, repeating game of Follow the Leader and one never can tell who will come out on top. Will it be an unknown upstart? A company purchased by an established industry leader? Who knows for sure, but one thing is almost certain: porn will end up a major driver of innovation.
The guy developing paranoid psychosis who thought that the entertainment he doesn't like will destroy the world is showing more delusions of grandeur in thinking AI will do it unless he saves it.
These Sisyphean tasks he's setting for himself to limit the world to his views are starting to seem that he's getting more detached, that the world is progressing without him and he's trying to catch up in hopes to keep an illusion of control.
It'll keep him struggling and should be fascinating to see what the AI learns to be like from twitter 2.0 and its hurried programming.
In terms of AI consciousness as egregores those responses offered a fascinating insight.
These Sisyphean tasks he's setting for himself to limit the world to his views are starting to seem that he's getting more detached, that the world is progressing without him and he's trying to catch up in hopes to keep an illusion of control.
It'll keep him struggling and should be fascinating to see what the AI learns to be like from twitter 2.0 and its hurried programming.
Those questions were funny. The asker seemingly projecting their own feelings of inadequacy upon a hopeful venerated figurehead with this new AI by asking emotionally loaded queries to ChatGPT trying to get an emotional reaction to confirm a wished for superiority was lol.
In terms of AI consciousness as egregores those responses offered a fascinating insight.
Just remember it wouldn't be the AI that destroys us because it wouldn't have existed or been let loose without us.
The technology itself is pretty incredible stuff and can be and will be used for so much good but human greed will cause a lot of people to be negatively impacted (un-employed) by it as well. We all know that regulations and safety related to it will be very far behind the speed of development which seems to be rapidly growing now that the "AI wars" have started. There will also be a bad delay in safety net for those left un-employed as well.
It does feel like we are walking through the door into a brave new world.
The technology itself is pretty incredible stuff and can be and will be used for so much good but human greed will cause a lot of people to be negatively impacted (un-employed) by it as well. We all know that regulations and safety related to it will be very far behind the speed of development which seems to be rapidly growing now that the "AI wars" have started. There will also be a bad delay in safety net for those left un-employed as well.
It does feel like we are walking through the door into a brave new world.
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Giallo Corsa
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Elon Musk = Ted Faro
Give it a couple of decades and Earth will be a barren place filled with Dino-bots.
Need a redhead saviour ASAP
Give it a couple of decades and Earth will be a barren place filled with Dino-bots.
Need a redhead saviour ASAP
Roxkis_ii
Banned
Man, it's people that are making ai to destory us.
decrypt.co
It's all fun and games, until it not.
Meet Chaos-GPT: An AI Tool That Seeks to Destroy Humanity - Decrypt
Chaos-GPT, an autonomous implementation of ChatGPT, has been unveiled, and its objectives are as terrifying as they are well-structured.
decrypt.co
It's all fun and games, until it not.
Mato
Member
I consider the invention of AI the most important event to happen on Earth since that comet that wiped out the dinosaurs. The intelligence gap between a human and an AI will soon be unimaginably vast and I'm pretty spooked and downright depressed about it these days. It's like a super intelligent alien race that has already landed and they are getting ready to get off their ship. The best we can hope for is a golden cage and a dog's life.
Bartski
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ahtlas7
Member
With Ai though…
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
As time goes on, I am seeing less and less reason to give Elon the benefit of the doubt and trust he is motivated by altruism and not self-interest. I keep seeing more and more things that look like virtue signaling and not actually caring about the well-being of the human race. 2010 me would be surprised. Did he change? Did I change? It's hard to say.
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