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Belated July Number Crunching [NPD 2005]

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Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
donny2112 said:
I believe you are missing some important facts. Nintendogs will only be on sale for 4-6 days of the August NPD report, and September is a 5-week month.

The 125K seems reasonable for August, but with more than 5 times the number of days on the market in September + the DS price drop, Nintendogs should not see a decrease in September. Rather, it should have a sizeable increase in September.
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I think another thing that will help Nintendogs in September is word of mouth. I can see people playing it and showing others and then telling them that they can get a DS with Nintendogs for $160 US.
 
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sonycowboy

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I still want my Atelier Iris figures...
Ah, Star Ocean 3 totals petition seconded.

We can't let this topic die until hardware arrives x.x
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PS2 ATELIER IRIS: ETERNAL MANA $830,655 16,650
 
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Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
:O!!

Thx a lot sonycowboy! I suppose those are july sales so atelier june sales are MIA no? (it covered a week or such). Anyway, lets pray for the sequel...
 
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jamesinclair

Banned
donny2112 said:
I believe you are missing some important facts. Nintendogs will only be on sale for 4-6 days of the August NPD report, and September is a 5-week month.

The 125K seems reasonable for August, but with more than 5 times the number of days on the market in September + the DS price drop, Nintendogs should not see a decrease in September. Rather, it should have a sizeable increase in September.
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This isnt Japan, i dont see Nintendogs selling so well. You know when the DS "big" titles like Kirby and meteos are doing sub 50,000 something is wrong. Look at the thread that has LTD for PSP and NDS titles. PSP titles always start strong, but many DS titles have started sub 10,000 units, a disaster.

And yeah, September is 5 weeks, which is why i dont see it dropping off TOO fast.
 
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sonycowboy

Member
Top 50 games by units :D

PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 06 $30,227,340 610,803
XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 06 $16,484,800 332,478
XBX HALO 2 MAP PACK $3,889,125 196,952
GBA POKEMON EMERALD $4,571,298 131,537
PS2 FANTASTIC 4 $4,999,306 100,514
PS2 DESTROY ALL HUMANS! $4,711,509 96,004
XBX GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS $4,481,711 93,855
PS2 LEGO STAR WARS $3,102,512 80,020
PSP MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB EDITION $3,803,748 78,207
PS2 SW: BATTLEFRONT $1,585,267 76,261
PSP CODED ARMS $2,947,505 74,014
XBX CONKER: LIVE AND RELOADED $3,093,497 62,685
PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2005 $1,787,804 60,417
XBX DESTROY ALL HUMANS! $2,912,264 59,404
PS2 MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN ASSAULT $2,298,058 58,226
GBA FANTASTIC 4 $1,731,409 57,837
XBX DELTA FORCE: BLACK HAWK DOWN $2,785,875 55,879
PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB $2,631,704 53,910
PS2 SW EPISODE III: SITH $2,511,655 53,265
PS2 BURNOUT 3: TAKEDOWN $1,043,510 52,259
GBA SW EPISODE 2: CLONES $747,507 50,031
NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE $1,707,210 49,058
XBX FANTASTIC 4 $2,360,762 47,523
GBA MADAGASCAR $1,418,474 47,472
GBA LEGO STAR WARS $1,408,165 47,045
PS2 MADAGASCAR $1,611,829 43,472
GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES $1,342,280 43,222
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE 5: PROTOMAN $1,259,553 42,030
GBA DISNEY PRINCESS $600,247 41,383
GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH $1,189,101 39,749
PS2 JUICED $1,946,469 39,038
PS2 MAJOR LEAGUE BB 2K5 $751,912 38,590
XBX LEGO STAR WARS $1,464,337 38,347
XBX BURNOUT 3: TAKEDOWN $769,260 37,882
GCN FANTASTIC 4 $1,877,686 37,741
PS2 FLATOUT $1,809,778 37,719
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $1,046,896 37,134
PS2 GOD OF WAR $1,833,114 36,979
XBX SW: BATTLEFRONT $748,937 36,543
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE 5: COLONEL $1,070,286 35,717
PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 $1,048,220 34,930
GBA DISNEY'S HERBIE:FULLY LOADED $998,960 33,903
XBX SID MEIER'S PIRATES!: LIVE $1,310,208 32,995
PS2 BATMAN BEGINS $1,314,280 32,924
GBA CHARLIE CHOCOLATE FACTORY $937,078 32,389
GBA MARIO PARTY ADVANCE $972,355 31,427
XBX HALO 2 $1,318,494 31,240
PS2 X-MEN: LEGENDS $610,692 30,240
GBA SIMPSONS: ROAD RAGE $441,880 29,913
XBX MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN ASSAULT $1,180,851 29,696
 
Link1110

Link1110

Member
Just found something out. Apparently more people have read my Tales of Rebirth FAQ on RPGFan (15,173) than have bought Arc the Lad: End of Darkness (13,668.) More evidence that it would've sold ALOT better than the game we got instead of it. :lol
 
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jman2050

Member
jamesinclair said:
This isnt Japan, i dont see Nintendogs selling so well. You know when the DS "big" titles like Kirby and meteos are doing sub 50,000 something is wrong. Look at the thread that has LTD for PSP and NDS titles. PSP titles always start strong, but many DS titles have started sub 10,000 units, a disaster.

And yeah, September is 5 weeks, which is why i dont see it dropping off TOO fast.
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Your mistake is assuming that Kirby and Meteos are underachieving. Kirby already has nearly 130,000 units sold. That's pretty darn good for a month and a half. And really, what evidence do you have that Nintendogs won't be selling so well. Anything? I didn't think so.
 
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FateBreaker

Member
For the love of God, NIS AMERICA, please!

Thanks Bunkum, and sonycowboy! :D

As for NISAmerica, how 'bout Makai Kingdom?

Also, any possible way to get the sales figures for Atelier Iris in June, too?
 
Barrage

Barrage

Member
Thanks Bunkum.

TOP 10 HANDHELD SALES

1.GBA POKEMON EMERALD $4,571,298.00 131,537
2.PSP MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB EDITION $3,803,748.00 78,207
3.PSP CODED ARMS $2,947,505.00 74,014
4.GBA FANTASTIC 4 $1,731,409.00 57,837
5.GBA SW EPISODE 2: CLONES $747,507.00 50,031
6.NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE $1,707,210.00 49,058
7.GBA MADAGASCAR $1,418,474.00 47,472
8.GBA LEGO STAR WARS $1,408,165.00 47,045
9.GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES $1,342,280.00 43,222
10.GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE 5: PROTOMAN $1,259,553.00 42,030
 
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jamesinclair

Banned
jman2050 said:
Your mistake is assuming that Kirby and Meteos are underachieving. Kirby already has nearly 130,000 units sold. That's pretty darn good for a month and a half. And really, what evidence do you have that Nintendogs won't be selling so well. Anything? I didn't think so.
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Meteos IS underachieving, look at how Lumines on a platform with a smaller user base.

And of course I dont have evidence, its called a prediction. I cant prove it until it happens.



And thanks Sonycowboy for that excellent list of top 50 games by unit. It hurts to see some GBA games in there, like the Princess game.
 
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jman2050

Member
jamesinclair said:
Meteos IS underachieving, look at how Lumines on a platform with a smaller user base.

And of course I dont have evidence, its called a prediction. I cant prove it until it happens.



And thanks Sonycowboy for that excellent list of top 50 games by unit. It hurts to see some GBA games in there, like the Princess game.
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As typhon said, it was a launch title. Lumines didn't have anything like Mario 64 hogging up all the sales. Seriously, was anyone actually predicting Meteos to be more successful than any other highly anticipated puzzle game not called Tetris?
 
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FateBreaker

Member
For the love of God, NIS AMERICA, please!

Thanks Bunkum, and sonycowboy!

As for NISAmerica, how 'bout Makai Kingdom?

Also, any possible way to get the sales figures for Atelier Iris in June, too?
 
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sonycowboy

Member
FateBreaker said:
For the love of God, NIS AMERICA, please!

Thanks Bunkum, and sonycowboy!

As for NISAmerica, how 'bout Makai Kingdom?

Also, any possible way to get the sales figures for Atelier Iris in June, too?
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Already posted AI for July, but what the heck.

July
PS2 ATELIER IRIS: ETERNAL MANA $830,655 16,650
PS2 MAKAI KINGDOM: CHRONICLES $721,794 14,519

June
PS2 ATELIER IRIS: ETERNAL MANA $1,070,585 21,517
 
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Elios83

Member
sonycowboy said:
Already posted AI for July, but what the heck.

July
PS2 ATELIER IRIS: ETERNAL MANA $830,655 16,650
PS2 MAKAI KINGDOM: CHRONICLES $721,794 14,519

June
PS2 ATELIER IRIS: ETERNAL MANA $1,070,585 21,517
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sonycowboy any news on the NPD hardware?Thanks :)
 
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Elios83

Member
sonycowboy said:
No publicly reported HW numbers other than the percentage numbers for the consoles as of yet. Too bad, it would be fun.
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Too bad indeed,I hope the July hardware numbers won't be lost.
 
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jiggle

Member
Pretty nice numbers for Atelier Iris. It even beat Makai Kingdom in their respective first month(week). Surely they'll do the sequel now, even though it sucks.
 
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Frankfurter

Member
Any bets where RE 4 GC will end up when all is said and done? If it gets a nice bump at christmas it could pass 700k this year and perhaps end up at about 800k. What do you think?
 
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thestopsign

Member
This topic is dead my friend. But I might aswell put an answer in.

I think the price drop will help this game out a ton. Then by the end of the Gamecubes life. Which I say is right after I beat TP. That it could end up around 850,000. Probably around 750k by the end of this year.
 
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djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
How many copies sold does a game like Atelier Iris need to be considered moderately successful?

I've been pimping this game to lots of people like no tomorrow, cute little unpretentious game.

Also does anybody have the LTD for Shadow Hearts:Covenant? Or how about the other N1 games - La Pucelle Tactics, Disgaea, and Phantom Brave? I'm just curious how more obscure RPGs sell... Nice to see SO3 do well btw even though it's a shadow of its amazing prequel.
 
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Drakken

Member
djtiesto said:
How many copies sold does a game like Atelier Iris need to be considered moderately successful?
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I was wondering the same thing. Hopefully it sold enough to warrant bringing the sequel here. :)
 
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Unison

Member
Frankfurter said:
I really don't want to say that it will definitely sell like billions( ;) ) of units, but just look at amazon.com and see how it performs(right now it is at positions 8, 19 and 37!). Of course that's only a small sign, but it is a sign(and than of course look at this Wedbush Review thing where they said that Madden NFL and Nintendogs are gonna drive the sales of August).
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Make that 7, 9, & 20... :D
 
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FateBreaker

Member
djtiesto said:
How many copies sold does a game like Atelier Iris need to be considered moderately successful?

I've been pimping this game to lots of people like no tomorrow, cute little unpretentious game.

Also does anybody have the LTD for Shadow Hearts:Covenant? Or how about the other N1 games - La Pucelle Tactics, Disgaea, and Phantom Brave? I'm just curious how more obscure RPGs sell... Nice to see SO3 do well btw even though it's a shadow of its amazing prequel.
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Nearly 40,000 copies in two months (one of those months being two days) is quuittee good, my friend. And that's for most games -- this game, it's quite remarkable, I think.

Covenant, more or less, is in the 65,000-75,000 range. Considering the expense and advertisment (AND from what company it's from), it's not nearly as good as AI, especially since it went down in price to $20 around it hitting 35,000 after four months.

I have no idea with the N1 titles, excpet that, obviously, Disgaea sold the most of those. I'd like to hear an LTD for those titles as well, and SO3 too.

EDIT: Also, Covenant is one of the better RPGs in a long, long time; it deserves higher sales than that, in every regard.
 
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Shard

XBLAnnoyance
Question, does anybody here have the cumulative Harvest Moon sales data? I want to see if my theory is right about Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life being the best selling Harvest Moon thus far.
 
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thestopsign

Member
Harvest Moon I believe was around 400,000 during the March NPD. So I would say it is at 450,000 which would put it as the best selling Harvest Moon of all time.
 
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donny2112

Member
Is CSFB's report still coming out?

In case it has been put out, and we're just not going to get the numbers from it ...

You know, there's a perfectly good prediction thread with perfectly good predicted hardware sales in it. Might it be possible to know who was closest? :)
 
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Frankfurter

Member
I tried to make a chart for the DS soft- and hardware, but my software LTD is about 6k lower than it should be. Feel free to correct the numbers (and perhaps you could add the exact hw numbers if available and the number for July ^^).

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