Bernie Sanders is officially running for President as a Democrat

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You certainly are right. Its a massive assumption but a Sanders nomination is ultimately a risk I dont believe the party or most Democratic primary voters will risk taking.

So was running with a black guy whose motto was "hope and change" instead of Hillster "The Status Quo" Clinton.

Coincidentally, Gore and Kerry were the Safe Bets. As was Mitt. How well those turned out.
 
One of the best senators america has at the moment and if he miraculously beats hillary in the primaries I will vote for him. I can't vote in the democrat primaries cuz i'm registered as independent :(
 
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I was planning on voting for whatever turd the Republicans rolled out. But damn if this doesnt change things.
Do you mean you're going to hate-vote in the presidential election? I don't so how else someone can consider a socialist like Sanders as an alternative to any of the Republican lunatics.
 
A couple of years ago I started voting for whatever I consider to be the worst candidate or the worst result for an amendment. Voted for Scott! Voted no on Amendment 2.

Bernie Sanders is one of the only politicians in America I will vote for in good faith rather then to screw over America/Florida.
 
No they didn't. People were predicting he'd win back in 2006 (and the betting markets this time 8 years ago had him doing better than Rubio and Walker are now in the GOP contest), and he had the establishment support and fundraising prowess from the outset to make him very competitive. Clinton was only ahead of him 15-20 points nationally and she was trailing John Edwards for most of 2007 in Iowa. Now she's 50+ points ahead everywhere. 2016 is nothing like 2008 and Bernie Sanders is not the greatest political phenomenon of this generation.

There's a lot of myth making when it comes to 2008, from Obama coming out of nowhere to Hillary supposedly having what seemed like an insurmountable lead in the polls. Now certainly Obama was an unknown figure before 2004 and his rise was very fast, but by the time he became a candidate for president he was quite well known (and liked). Clinton's poll numbers were never that strong. At this point in 2007 she was polling in the mid 30s, with Obama in the mid 20s, and Edwards around 20. There was a pretty large "anybody but Hillary" contingent that eventually coalesced around Obama. Her Iraq War vote was a big sticking point for a lot of Democrats for one thing.

My suspicion is that the revisionist history is based on two factors (1) Clinton's 2008 campaign strategy involved portraying her nomination as inevitable (2) plain old wishful thinking.

2008 is not a good analogy for 2016. Clinton has been consistently polling in the 60s for the Democratic primary and she never got numbers like that in 2008.
 
I'm tempted to change my party registration (currently: "none") to Democrat so I can vote for in him in the primary. Doubtful he'll have much of a chance, but god do I want him to prove me wrong.
 
A couple of years ago I started voting for whatever I consider to be the worst candidate or the worst result for an amendment. Voted for Scott! Voted no on Amendment 2.

Bernie Sanders is one of the only politicians in America I will vote for in good faith rather then to screw over America/Florida.
I consider myself a destructive person that likes carnage, but thats just going too far.
 
What a poor time to announce you're running for prez in the middle of the Baltimore protest. The fact I found out about this on Neogaf, is not a good sign, and I payed attention to the news today.
 
I admittedly did not know much about Sanders, but after reading up on him, he has my vote. Hell I feel motivated to volunteer and support his campaign
 
I'd vote Bernie.

Hillary is a less enthusiastic vote for me than Kerry was.

Hopefully he at least gets her to adopt some of his platform, but I doubt it.
 
Welp, I guess I know where my primary vote is going. Hillary ain't losing the nomination, so consider it showing where my voice actually lies. Maybe it'll push her to the left a little bit.
 
I hope he gets the nomination, since he'd lose in a landslide and prove that socialism isn't popular in America. If America elects a self proclaimed socialist to the White House, then it might be time to move somewhere else IMO.
 
I hope he gets the nomination, since he'd lose in a landslide and prove that socialism isn't popular in America. If America elects a self proclaimed socialist to the White House, then it might be time to move somewhere else IMO.

where would you move to

every country in the world belongs to america
 
I think it's time we voted some one in who uttered the words "i'm independent" despite his platform being very leftist.
 
Bernie is the only person running I'd truly love to see become President. Which of course means it will never ever happen.
 
I hope he gets the nomination, since he'd lose in a landslide and prove that socialism isn't popular in America. If America elects a self proclaimed socialist to the White House, then it might be time to move somewhere else IMO.

Enjoy looking for a country you'd actually want to live in that has less socialism than America.
 
I'm conflicted. I don't like Clinton, I sure as hell don't want her as president, but she's better than any Republican that we can get. I like Sanders, but there is no chance in hell he will win either the primary or the general election. I feel like him trying to drag Hillary left will only weaken the chances of her winning and ensure a republican gets in instead.

What I want to vote vs. what I should vote... god dammit.
It's a good thing I can't vote in the primaries as an independent, I don't have to make that choice. :p
 
I hope he gets the nomination, since he'd lose in a landslide and prove that socialism isn't popular in America. If America elects a self proclaimed socialist to the White House, then it might be time to move somewhere else IMO.
I don't really agree with most of what you're saying, but I'm sure most people would. You're right, we'll have a Republican president of he gets the nomination.
 
Step 1 comes down to if they actually let him/actually have more than 1 proper debate or so---otherwise he'll get shafted just as dramatically as Gravel and Kucinich did early on while the media essentially edged themselves for the Hillary v Obama v "Holy Shit, you did what?" Edwards circus. He can't drag her to the left outside of some kind of dramatic public exchange that gets on the record, to say nothing of the vast funding canyon and interests separating them.

Still, here's hoping other interesting folks use this as a springboard to take an honest crack at it---though at this point I have no idea who they'd be as Gravel may well be he only bolt from the blue equal to the then standing history of Kucinich before he got district'd....not exactly a fertile field of characters for candidates given the deplorable state of it all.
 
I hope he gets the nomination, since he'd lose in a landslide and prove that socialism isn't popular in America. If America elects a self proclaimed socialist to the White House, then it might be time to move somewhere else IMO.

The USA leans further right economically than the vast majority of developed countries.

You might be SOL trying to escape socialism by running from the States.
 
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