EvilKatarn
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It's even written in the OP. Who'd be dumb enough to disagree?
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Berserk |OT| - Big men, bigger swords, OFF THE BOAT - Berserk #344 24/6/2016
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It's even written in the OP. Who'd be dumb enough to disagree?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Yeah. I've watched the anime and the movies and am ready for more. I'm more of an anime guy, so this will be my first manga.
Damn! You don't get free shipping if you order outside of America. The total shipping cost is ridiculous if I order 10 volumes! : (
HNNNNG! That looks freaking amazing - but it's a little too expensive for me. If I had money to burn I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
I'd agree even though I just started reading the manga - knowing what the characters sound like in your head is a huge bonus.
Will do! I'll have my phone next to me while reading ready to play some of the music. Some of the tracks are soooooooo good!
vas_a_morir
Banned
Berserk is blowing up on GAF right now. lol
I am rewatching the anime... you know, it is kinda fucked up Griffith ordered a girl who was nearly raped as a child to lay naked with a man for 3 days.
I am rewatching the anime... you know, it is kinda fucked up Griffith ordered a girl who was nearly raped as a child to lay naked with a man for 3 days.
I am watching the Berserk Redux which is basically combining the movie with the anime (ie filling in the hole). I am enjoying it myself although I always enjoy me some Berserk!
People hate on the movies too much sometimes... some scenes are really well done in it like the Gutts assassination scene.
People hate on the movies too much sometimes... some scenes are really well done in it like the Gutts assassination scene.
I like certain scenes but on it's own it has no real flow to it. I was able to enjoy them for what they were after I read the manga. I wouldn't want to experience Berserk with those movies without being able to fill in the blanks.
And how is the redux? Don't characters change VOs?
Character VO isn't that much of a difference... the characters sound mostly the same despite having different VOs.
Biggest issue is the difference in animation is like going from night to day... it's really jarring (plus the aspect ratio). But even with that it makes the whole experience much better because the "climax" moments end up having a bigger impact because of the build ups and development.
The editor does the best with what he has but it is what it is.
Funny part is that the whole thing isn't even that long... it's 4 parts each around 1h 40-50 minutes each. The makers of the movies fucked up so hard with cutting out so many scenes when they could've had good stuff on their hands by adding 30 minutes to each of the movies.
Biggest issue is the difference in animation is like going from night to day... it's really jarring (plus the aspect ratio). But even with that it makes the whole experience much better because the "climax" moments end up having a bigger impact because of the build ups and development.
The editor does the best with what he has but it is what it is.
Funny part is that the whole thing isn't even that long... it's 4 parts each around 1h 40-50 minutes each. The makers of the movies fucked up so hard with cutting out so many scenes when they could've had good stuff on their hands by adding 30 minutes to each of the movies.
vas_a_morir
Banned
If the movies were traditionally animated, they'd be great. In my opinion, anyway.
IrishNinja
Member
..did we ever get past chapter 37 bros
I was in high school when I caught up to be boat, so at the minimum it was in 2008. I want to say we reached that point in 2007.
The parts that are 2D look really beautiful ... but the parts that are 3D look awful.
Also the art style used in the movies would be godlike for the current Fantasia arc... though not so much for the Black Swordsman/Conviction arcs.
I think the movies would be great if the 3D stuff was scaled back and if they animated the stuff they were missing (like roughly 30 minutes per movie which is still a big chunk). As it is there's just a lot of stuff missing that ruins development and pacing of the movies. The rest is a bunch of cool looking action scenes that occasionally get ruined by bad CGI faces and effects. Still rather enjoyable on its own but not the full Berserk experience of course.
For all its worth I actually enjoyed the OST in the movies (Blood and Guts being my favorite track). There is a lot of variety to it as compared to the anime which really only had like 4 tracks that were used in every important/big scene (though those 4 tracks were amazing).
True Savior
Member
Is there Japanese speakers on Gaf ? (there must be right ?)
Could anyone translate this small Berserk ad ? (which i love very much although i don't know what she's saying).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNTt6TOFYjk
There's a translation on the comments..but its youtube comments (it is actually pretty rad if it's that what she's saying)
Could anyone translate this small Berserk ad ? (which i love very much although i don't know what she's saying).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNTt6TOFYjk
There's a translation on the comments..but its youtube comments (it is actually pretty rad if it's that what she's saying)
RadioHeadAche
Member
That's actually available on the final dvd, let me check.
This is what the dvd subtitles say:
"No matter how much blood I shed...
No matter how much I had to cry...
No matter how far apart our hearts grew...
No matter how much time passed...
No matter how much my feelings didn't show...
No matter how sad I became...
...I wanted to be his dream."
True Savior
Member
Thanks a lot man. I really like the tone of the ad , and Casca dialogue.
True Savior
Member
Berserk up and alive on GAF, spread the word people!
Berserk volume 1 is the number 7 on Amazon top mangas. Are all gaf members buying a volume ?
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
The thirst for more grimdark fantasy post-Bloodborne is real.
Mhm, not sure how much it involves GAF, but yeah: because of Bloodborne and obvious Berserk-references people are finding more and more people are interested in understanding where that influence is coming from.
As they should be since Berserk to me is 'dark fantasy perfected'.
The Omega Man
Member
Hmmmmm so much Berserk talk, Manga becoming top 5 in amazon, the signs are on the wall, the eclipse is coming.
All signs point to a new whole volume release by Miura, Skull Knight and Void flashback incoming!!!!
All signs point to a new whole volume release by Miura, Skull Knight and Void flashback incoming!!!!
Miura pls
I for one agree with this.
The OST was a good reason, as listed by others. Also that feeling the ending leaves you with is handled nicely by being able to pick up volume 1 and have a great many volumes to read through that carry you beyond (and then obviously shatter you when you get caught up).
I agree that watching the anime first would definitely want you to get right into the manga with the way it ends off. But looking at a lot of these Berserk threads lately, it seems like a lot of people want to pick up right where the anime/movies left off which I think is a pretty bad idea. Start from the beginning!
You're pretty much caught up!
...not really, but sadly, not too far from the truth either.
metsallica
Member
Anyone else wonder about the economics of this whole situation? Like, how does Miura live day-to-day given his pace? Is he paid regardless of output per a contract? I doubt he's super-wealthy even given the success of the franchise, but I'd really love to read something that breaks down how the manga industry supports and pays auteurs. Like, look at Yoshitoshi ABe. What the heck does he do all the time? Does he have a day job? How does he support himself in a country with a crazy cost of living? Is there a manga version of Anime: A History, which kind of goes into how the industry created and sustains the awful wages animators make?
True Savior
Member
Berserk might be the most popular seinen manga. He must be somewhat wealthy. Also he does other stuff and just recently did an entire mini series. He once said he does a page per day. It's a 7 chapter series , with more or less 150 pages . It probably took me quite a while to produce the entire thing.
I did recently. Got volume 1, then 2, 3, 4 and 5 and then 6, 7, 8 and 9. About to order another 4 so they'll get here on Saturday.
Yeah, I agree (I think lol). It's still up for pre-order on a few sites for under $300 (like this one). But I'm trying to resist. The thing looks ridiculous, though.
The Omega Man
Member
I think Miura is more than doing just fine, actually he must be doing well, his work still sells regardless the pace he puts out new volumes there is always someone buying the old volumes and starting his collection. Plus the royalties and licensing fees for all the Berserk related merchandise must be very juicy. Also Miura being a loner and introvert guy and kind of humble gives me the impression that he is not a big spender and live a very modest lifestyle.
I'll agree with this, the first episode is forgotten by the time you are reaching the end and weird stuff crops back up. If you go through the manga first I imagine some of that initial shock is lost
The Omega Man
Member
Indeed Golgo 13 is a monster but to be fair it's been selling for 20 years more than Berserk
Well, there's still Vagabond.
And JoJo.
I remember starting Vagabond a while ago. I got pretty far... I remember the main character and some kind of old dude and they were training to fight a monk.
Maybe I should continue.
True Savior
Member
I had no idea Vagabond sold so much.
Inoue deserves all the success.
You definitely should.
John Rabbit
Banned
so all this Berserk hype has finally got me to read the manga. i watched the anime after seeing the similarities between the Souls games and the manga art and then got so upset at how the anime just stops (dat ending, i was so angry) that i didn't bother looking into it more.
now i've blown through volume 1 of the manga in like 2 hours.
now i've blown through volume 1 of the manga in like 2 hours.
mcz117chief
Member
Blown through in 2 hours ? I usually read one volume for 30-40 minutes tops.
metsallica
Member
Japan seems quite a bit different in terms of how creators are rewarded for their creations versus a place like the US. I'm positive he's doing fine but I really wonder how much he pulls in. I think the modest lifestyle definitely plays into it for many manga creators / creative types, but I feel like I'm still missing something. I don't know, maybe I'm totally crazy / off-base. Just has always been food for thought for me.
Dunno if he's ever said, but something like 25+ million sales in Japan should have set him up for life. That's before we count various merchandising deals or the animation releases. Not being a wage-slave working for a niche industry helps; manga is on a different level compared to anime, when it comes to popularity, awareness, sales, royalties, etc.
I catched up to the manga a longer while ago so I'm forced to play the waiting game. But I'm glad that at least one of my favourites has such a large fan-following. I haven't watched the original anime, just two of the movies, but I remember them not being all that bad. At least I saw some of the story being animated in some form.
However the title music 'Aria' for the movies is awesome, just as the Sign song from the PS2 game. The way the tone of the voice changes after the first line is a stroke of genius. When I then listened to the full version of Aria, I was blown away. Great job. Thanks to this thread I learned that the composer is also the singer. Mad respect to him.
However the title music 'Aria' for the movies is awesome, just as the Sign song from the PS2 game. The way the tone of the voice changes after the first line is a stroke of genius. When I then listened to the full version of Aria, I was blown away. Great job. Thanks to this thread I learned that the composer is also the singer. Mad respect to him.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
I've 12 through 21 coming in tomorrow! yayyyy
I left off on 9 (giggity), so I'm gonna read 10 and 11 today.
I left off on 9 (giggity), so I'm gonna read 10 and 11 today.
mcz117chief
Member
I found something that helps to scratch that itch. First, Dragon's Dogma has a ton of Berserk references and cameos (Guts' and Griffith's armour + weapons).
Second, Skyrim mods. If you get Guts character + his weapons (golden age sword, dragonslayer, knife and canon arm) + his armour (both Black Swordsman and Berserk armour) + zweihander animation pack + dragonslayer sword sound effects + enhanced blood + dismemberment mod (with the ability to chop multiple people in half with a single strike) + custom music (put that epic anime OST in there) = BEST EFFIN SKYRIM OF ALL THE DARN TIME !!!!
I'm actually finding the Souls games to be the closest thing. Fighting with Ludwig's Holy Blade in Bloodborne gave me that Guts feeling.
mcz117chief
Member
Still, man, the Skyrim I described is God tier level of awesomeness.
Check out these few screenshots of mine:
On the Road
Berserker Armour
Dismemberment
mcz117chief
Member
Oh yes, the famous 9. I had to order it from America from "Things From Another World" under the "nick'n'dent" category and it took them more than a month to deliver it to me.
edit: They currently have it in stock http://www.tfaw.com/Profile/Berserk-Volume-09-TPB___246808
Also, I must AGAIN suggest that you buy from http://www.bookdepository.com/. They have free shipping all over the world and send everything in heavy duty envelopes. I bought over 20 volumes of Berserk (+ a ton of other stuff) from them with zero trouble and fast delivery.
edit: aaaand I just bought another volume... and they put me on their front page for the first time
!!!
THAT'S ME
Tfaw is kinda slow though (7-14 days at the earliest it says) and Book Depository says insufficient stock =[ What is it with volume 9? Random for that one to be out of stock everywhere lol.
Oh well, Amazon will have it delivered in about a week. Just a drag when I usually get them in two days with Amazon prime. And I'll have 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 by this weekend.
Oh well, Amazon will have it delivered in about a week. Just a drag when I usually get them in two days with Amazon prime. And I'll have 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 by this weekend.
mcz117chief
Member
There was a time when Volume 18 was almost impossible to buy. Some small stores were selling it close to 100$ and they costed even more on e-bay (some people were asking prices around 200$).