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Bicycle age

Mascot

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Back for more tomorrow... hopefully I'll remember to take a pic this time :)

Damn straight!

Invisible man nails landing:

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Managed a decent ride today and thankfully didn't jar my back / shoulder. Happy with my tyre choice for next weekend, just a matter of keeping up with mudroadies on it now. :)

Edit - Wow, 44th out of 10,718 on one (uphill) segment.
 

Teggy

Member
Went into the bike shop to talk about my foot pain today. Pedal guy said outside foot pain is less likely to be caused by cleat position but wanted to look at my arches. Had me stand on a plate that changed colors and showed I needed a lot more arch support. So I got new beds for my shoes (++ instead of + in the Specialized world) and they said give it a shot and if it doesn't work just keep coming back.

It looked like rain so I just went out for a couple of miles. Felt better but I also felt the start of a cramp in the middle of my foot so I'll have to take a longer ride and see.
 

Karakand

Member
I went to a stage of the Tour of California for the first time this year and was unfortunately exposed to the phenomenon of Freds showing up to bike races on Fred sleds en masse. I was lucky I hadn't brought hard liquor with me or else I would have done something stupid like take a shot every time I saw a Cervélo or Dura-Ace wielded by a rider with no performance-based need for Dura-Ace componentry.

It was pretty cool to geek out in the team areas before the race though. Someone came up to Ryan Anderson (iirc) and he switched from speaking French to speaking English assuming the fan was American, but the fan answered back in a francophone's French. Not the kind of scene I'm used to here. John Degenkolb is surprisingly small in person.

Also I made the person I'm dating atm (whom I dragged to the race) flip out when I casually mentioned that the Specialissima at the Bianchi booth retailed for 14,000 USD.
 

HTupolev

Member
What are Freds?
Karakand is using the term to refer to poseurs.

Sometimes it gets used to refer to the opposite, those who fully reject the rules of the Velominati.

"Fred" may also be used when addressing someone named Fred.

I went to a stage of the Tour of California for the first time this year and was unfortunately exposed to the phenomenon of Freds showing up to bike races on Fred sleds en masse. I was lucky I hadn't brought hard liquor with me or else I would have done something stupid like take a shot every time I saw a Cervélo or Dura-Ace wielded by a rider with no performance-based need for Dura-Ace componentry.
I really don't get the issue here. It's not like less-capable cyclists benefit less from top-end components. Actually, you'll notice bigger differences on a bike outside of racing, since you can take advantage of the weight savings and go below 15lbs, in addition to the perks like crisper front shifting.

If you like the feel and have the cash to blow, why not?
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Karakand is using the term to refer to poseurs.

Sometimes it gets used to refer to the opposite, those who fully reject the rules of the Velominati.

"Fred" may also be used when addressing someone named Fred.

Oh ok, gotcha. I think they would be called Jerry's in the snowboarding world.
 

Mascot

Member
What's the difference between a Fred and a Jimmy?

Rode about 25k this afternoon, felt great for the second straight day!

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Nice hangage, sir. Where is that?

Still very sloppy on long sections of the local trails. We need a solid week of hot sun to dry this shit out.

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Karakand

Member
I really don't get the issue here. It's not like less-capable cyclists benefit less from top-end components. Actually, you'll notice bigger differences on a bike outside of racing, since you can take advantage of the weight savings and go below 15lbs, in addition to the perks like crisper front shifting.

If you like the feel and have the cash to blow, why not?

The riders I'm talking about were so corpulent that I was genuinely shocked Castelli made kit that big. (And I don't mention that lightly, this is a fitness thread and it's very easy to develop body image issues in this field given that it's one that dissuades people from participating from retail to internet due to their weight.) I see no reason to move past Ultegra (other than vanity) if someone is in that category given the performance proximity of the groupsets (it even has Di2), and if I can't laugh at roadie vanity I might as well cash out and become an enduro bro.
 
I'd have said a lot of the lower end gear is far more durable and likely to cope with their weight and poor pedalling / shifting form etc too... but yeah, again I guess if they're willing to spend the money that's their choice.
 

teepo

Member
The riders I'm talking about were so corpulent that I was genuinely shocked Castelli made kit that big. (And I don't mention that lightly, this is a fitness thread and it's very easy to develop body image issues in this field given that it's one that dissuades people from participating from retail to internet due to their weight.) I see no reason to move past Ultegra (other than vanity) if someone is in that category given the performance proximity of the groupsets (it even has Di2), and if I can't laugh at roadie vanity I might as well cash out and become an enduro bro.

i'm not sure about Shimano but i do know that not only does SRAM Force 22 groupset perform identically to the higher-end RED 22, it is both more durable and the rear derailleur performs slightly better. the only time the RED 22 would justify its price tag ($1000 more) is if you're dangerously close to being categorized as underweight and that 300 or so grams in savings will actually make a difference.

and there is plenty of these types in the DC area, so i know the feels.
 
What are Freds?

Freds are the guys who show up on their CAAD 10 or Cervelo P3 with a Team Sky or Tinkof kit to B Group rides, but yell and act like their professionals. They can also be the previous statement, minus the aggressive nature. To put it another way: Your typical Gran Fondo Warrior, but they may also be the guy who shows up to a Gran Fondo with his full carbon bike, carbon zipps, aero helmet and can't pull more than 15mph while being an aggressive dick.

While Freds the weekend warrior / gran fondo freds can be HUGE dorks, I'd rather get caught in a ride with them than the opposite end. I've been around overly aggressive crit riders who act like hot shit and talk people down. I've also been around the tri-warrior who is jerking off over his watts.

Freds may be dorks, but more often than not those dudes are more fun.
 

Anony

Member
my (mountain) bike needs to be cleaned, chains needs to be cleaned and greased, and tires needs to be inflated
looking to just going to sportchek to get it checked (looking at small/specialized shops can go easily over 100)
the 45$ package looks alright i guess and i'm lazy
not to say i wouldn't do this myself, but the chain cleaner, degreaser, and greaser would cost around the same price
 
my (mountain) bike needs to be cleaned, chains needs to be cleaned and greased, and tires needs to be inflated

looking to just going to sportchek to get it checked (looking at small/specialized shops can go easily over 100)
the 45$ package looks alright i guess and i'm lazy
not to say i wouldn't do this myself, but the chain cleaner, degreaser, and greaser would cost around the same price

Doesn't look like they will clean your chain, just lube it. I think $45 is too much for what they'll do with no guarantee they know what they are doing. Either do it yourself or get it done right at a proper bike shop.
 

Mascot

Member
Oh shit my dropper post came in the mail! It's a Reverb so a hydraulic mess is in my future.
Never felt the need for one, and two people I know with them used them once, immediately after installation, then never again. I just stick the back of my saddle in my stomach and wipe my ass with the rear tyre on steep descents. Seems to work..!
 

Anony

Member
well, i asked a local sports shop that does bikes about watching them clean my bike, and they said maybe depending if they're busy
it would cost me 20 just for cleaning the chains (degrease + grease) or 55$ for a 'complete' tune up which i forget what it consists of already, but i remember cleaning and truing and checking the gears/brakes

i dont think my bike needs that truing check (i believe my bike is still in good condition) but i think it might be worth it to get it cleaned and checked 'professionally' (not that i can really verify this)

this is that i pulled together on amazon if i were to do this on my own
note that i live in an apt, and i dont think my apt has an open hose outside so i can't rinse/clean my bike easily
 
Never felt the need for one, and two people I know with them used them once, immediately after installation, then never again. I just stick the back of my saddle in my stomach and wipe my ass with the rear tyre on steep descents. Seems to work..!

I'm too much of a t-rex to feel comfortable tucking behind a full height saddle.
 

HTupolev

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I'd have said a lot of the lower end gear is far more durable
At least where Shimano is concerned, the high-end stuff if anything has notable durability advantages, i.e. better finish and bearings. Despite its weight savings, historically people seem to find that Dura Ace parts last longer than Ultegra ones, for instance.

The closest thing to an exception is with cassettes, where for instance steel teeth can potentially outlast aluminum or fancy titanium ones.

poor pedalling / shifting form etc too...
Parts targeted at racers probably have to deal with the most abusive shifting of all, since these are the people who have actual reason to change gears while dropping all kinds of hammers on the pedals.

Surely there's no way they'd just slap new lube on top of old gunk?
I wonder if a can of Boeshield can be used as a speed degreaser and lube at the same time
and if it's remotely possible to use it like that without covering your entire bike in black gunk
.
 
At least where Shimano is concerned, the high-end stuff if anything has notable durability advantages, i.e. better finish and bearings. Despite its weight savings, historically people seem to find that Dura Ace parts last longer than Ultegra ones, for instance.

Interesting. It definitely doesn't work that way in the mountain biking world. Though if you go for true durability you generally go for Zee or Saint anyway.

Parts targeted at racers probably have to deal with the most abusive shifting of all, since these are the people who have actual reason to change gears while dropping all kinds of hammers on the pedals.

That's not how I was taught to sprint. Part of being a fast rider is having a certain degree of mechanical empathy. Even when putting massive force through the pedals it's quite possible to shift your weight slightly on a shift so as to reduce the likelihood of snapping a chain etc.
 
Riding mtbs you tend to literally hammer the components with all sorts of natural features, so the thicker they are the better they'll handle it.
 
Riding mtbs you tend to literally hammer the components with all sorts of natural features, so the thicker they are the better they'll handle it.

When I ride MTB I shift like a moron b/c I'm always geared wrong due to being used to road riding. I've apologized to the bike sometimes when I have to downshift hard on a climb and you hear that PING of tension from a gear change.
 

Mascot

Member
When I ride MTB I shift like a moron b/c I'm always geared wrong due to being used to road riding. I've apologized to the bike sometimes when I have to downshift hard on a climb and you hear that PING of tension from a gear change.
Yeah, that's a horrible feeling, waiting for something to snap ten miles from home. My new Zee 1x10 seems to cope a lot better with duress shifting than my old 3x9 XT ever did.
 
this is that i pulled together on amazon if i were to do this on my own
note that i live in an apt, and i dont think my apt has an open hose outside so i can't rinse/clean my bike easily

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Replace the lot for two empty jars / containers, a bottle of mineral spirit, motor oil and a dropper.

One jar with a splash of spirit in for your chain cleaner, the other for your batch of lube.

Faster (if you have a quick release link), cleaner and cheaper.

Homebrew lube mixes range from a 3in1 - 6in1 mix of spirit and oil.
 

HTupolev

Member
2 lanes each way.

Almost no traffic.

"Get out of the road!"

Why are you even upset, pickup truck person?

That's not how I was taught to sprint. Part of being a fast rider is having a certain degree of mechanical empathy. Even when putting massive force through the pedals it's quite possible to shift your weight slightly on a shift so as to reduce the likelihood of snapping a chain etc.
True, but these top-level groupsets are very forgiving with respect to pedal torque. Things probably aren't taking damage when the shift winds up smooth regardless.
 
I know a number of frame designers who will happily let you spend as much as you want with them to make you something completely bespoke. I don't know that it covers your bases with the Jimmies... but I think bespoke usually ticks the boxes with the single origin ristretto crowd.
 

Teggy

Member
2 lanes each way.

Almost no traffic.

"Get out of the road!"

Why are you even upset, pickup truck person?

The other day I came up to an intersection where I had the right of way with stop signs on the perpendicular road. Guy in a truck has his cell phone up to his ear and is looking in the completely opposite direction and decides to just pull out while I am crossing in front of him.
 
I'm only now seeing this on a big screen and not my S6. That terrain looks awesome! Plenty of big drop-off opportunities (deliberate or otherwise)?

More photos and details please!

It's a winding path along a small cliffside. It's mostly natural features, really technical and with plenty of small dropoffs. I had to dismount constantly because it was my first time discovering the route. The pictured part is a descent back into the woods, very tight for a 29er.

I'll take more pics for you.
 

Teggy

Member
Took a 10 mile ride this afternoon and my feet felt 100 times better with my new inserts. I'm trying to decide if I should do a 50 mile club ride this weekend. It's going to be unseasonably hot.
 
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