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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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I think they went too far with it, its ends up being a cartoonish caricature. It doesnt feel realistic in the least, for a start the view they present is too one-dimensional and too rooted in modern day attitudes towars racism and religious extremism.
Yep, it's also the movement. Both games put a lot of focus there and you can kick a lot of ass by moving around well.
If you have a rail, ride it until he jumps on it and electrifies it. Jump off, shoot him in the heart a couple of times while waiting for the rail to de-electrify and repeat.
use crows to temp stun him.
I always threw crows at them to stun and then shot them, dunno if there's a better way though.
That was a loooong time ago now. Warren Spector did Deus Ex 1 too. Of course they know how to make these games, but sometimes you get older and just want to make Mickey Mouse games or focus on story in a video game 100% of the way.
Tummi Gummi
Member
I think JF is by far the worst caricature in any of the 3 Bioshock games. Characters like Ryan and Comstock at least had very forceful, almost magnetic personalities that helped magnify their their antagonistic roles. F is rather too Dickensian.
I'm probably going to catch a lot of flak for this, but Bulletstorm was way more enjoyable as a game for me (of course Infinite has way better design/story).
One thing I was let down on in the game, after finishing it and being reminded, was how different earlier versions were in terms of gameplay.
Everything else, especially story, was brilliant. Just wanted some stuff a little more fleshed out.
If you look at early footage, tears and sky rails are a much bigger part of the game than they are now. The tears were all quite samey, make me a metal panel to cover behind here, make a box of health packs there. In early footage there are more interesting uses such as doors and moving objects.
Then there is the sky rails. In this they were kinda cool, and you use them to get about in some spots. But in the early footage, you see massive areas filled with them like a theme park.
Then there is the sky rails. In this they were kinda cool, and you use them to get about in some spots. But in the early footage, you see massive areas filled with them like a theme park.
Everything else, especially story, was brilliant. Just wanted some stuff a little more fleshed out.
Tummi Gummi
Member
I think they're both good games for different reasons, but yeah I had more of a blast with the general pewpew'ing in Bulletstorm (for the most part). Bulletstorm with more open battleground and skyrails would be pretty sweet.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
I really miss hacking vending machines and turrets...
I understand what you mean completely. That's why I said since Bulletstorm. It's my second pick for most underrated game after everyone already knows what.
BoosterDuck
Banned
Why does this game give you the option of cancelling to pick up gear? Isn't it just better to take it so it's in your inventory.
I don't. That crap gets boring after the 30th time of doing it.
I don't. That crap gets boring after the 30th time of doing it.
Facism
Member
i've got an issue. Everytime the game autosaves, i get a read/write error and the game says it failed to autosave. Despite this message, it has actually saved, but it's proper breaking me out of the game everytime it minimises for me to click the bloody prompt. I've got ample space on the HDD.
I got sick of him dragging down every game and finally hit the block button.
Vire
Member
If I never had to do pipe dream hacking again that would be too soon.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Well, duh, that was terrible.
The hacking in Bioshock 2 was pretty great though, quick and painless.
Oh yeah, Infinite was a fine game. Just not this mindblowing gameplay experience of a generation that people were hyping it as. More skyrail integration for verticality, Elizabeth being better in combat and more meaningful weapons would've pushed this a lot higher for me.
Tummi Gummi
Member
Matches my feelings on both counts. I'm not going to say "ludo-narrative-you-know-what" but tears felt a bit mundane as an actual mechanic. The skyrails would've been nice but frankly I'd already assumed that was mostly smoke and mirrors.
Just makes me wish even more for the big-budget open-world RPG version of Bioshock that will never exist
How come I never have enough money to buy vigor upgrades? I explore and grab as much as I can find but every time I find a new vending machine the prices are higher and I can't afford anything.
About a third into the game and enjoying it. Gameplay feels kind of incidental to the story which is the truly compelling aspect of the game but hopefully they can change my mind on this as I progress further.
About a third into the game and enjoying it. Gameplay feels kind of incidental to the story which is the truly compelling aspect of the game but hopefully they can change my mind on this as I progress further.
So, I'm walking around the
and I went to look at something and I heard a line that Elizabeth said that was along the lines off
I have to wonder if that joke was in vein of the development of infinite or not. Made me laugh
Also
made me laugh as well.
arcade
look it's the newest in the series, it was delayed 3. Times.
I have to wonder if that joke was in vein of the development of infinite or not. Made me laugh
Also
Girls just wanna have fun, carnival style
SlasherJPC
Banned
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
It had to have been. I thought that immediately.
Give your thoughts when finished the ending and don't skip the credits since there's stuff afterwards.
The ending alone shits a big part on Bioshock.
Also, listen back to the music.
The music has so much foreshadowing towards the end it's incredible.
For example Girls Just Want to have. Look at the lyrics of that song, and just realize the context of that moment.
It blew my mind.
Turrets always revert. You can get an upgrade that extends the possession time, I want to say. Also, when the possession wears off a normal soldier they'll suicide.
That's a shame. I loved returning to old areas in B1 and seeing my green-lit turrets and security cameras still working.
This annoyed me, generally if you are going to do it it's best to at the start of the fight so all the other dudes kill it for you.
Regardng the possession upgrades...
I only ever saw the "spend less" upgrade for it in the store, is the other upgrade hidden or something?
There are Bioshock-esque turrets later in the game that you can activate and they'll be on your side until they're destroyed.
The vigor upgrades are different at every machine.
They're not meaningfully represented in the actual gameplay at all, though.
Like how women used to be common in the military?
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ThaiGrocer
Member
Possess it when there are a lot of enemies in front of it in order to weaken/kill both parties. Otherwise, I just Charge (with melee oriented gear on) and shotgun it to insta-kill. It works up to Hard, at least, not sure about 1999.
I never noticed that, I'll have to look for it next time because I found possession to be pretty useful near the end.
I see your point.
But I still think it's a big step forward regardless. Most games don't even touch these themes with a 2 inch stick.
Regardless how well you think it was executed, I do applaud Levine for taking on the challenge, and if nothing else being a potential catalyst for more developers to take these taboo issues on in the video game medium (especially in the mainstream medium)
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Yeah, same thing happened when Half Life 2 came out. Valve never recovered from that.
Whoops, looking at a wiki I was wrong. You can't upgrade the possession time.
Your probably early in the game...there are definitely non combat moments aplenty. Don't fret.
Oh, I totally forgot about posession aid, which they pretty much give you.
Yeah about 2 hours in. Definitely going to stick with it because the atmosphere is fantastic.
Speaking of which, how many rewards are there to be gained from Industrial Revolution? I didn't get super far, only unlocked the first tier.
edit: How hidden are the optional objective items? The first two
key for the chest and codex book
For me, the story was what was driving the experience. And this is coming from someone who never plays story-driven games due to lolvideogamewriting and boring design. Columbia was a beautiful place to explore, the aesthetics/art design was great, and the writing was fantastic.
There was really only one time that I felt the game jerked me around in an attempt to stretch things out
the three tears
razgriz417
Member
according to the IGN guide, the next set of rewards requires you to beat the entire thing (lvl 59 i think?) and you just get some wallpapers
This.
The Narrative, and The City of Columbia is why this game will be remember 10-20 years from now.
The gameplay is just the bridge to get us there.