bitmap books is dead to me now
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Soodanim
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Messing with a man's genuinely earned income because you don't like each other is an incredibly cowardly move.
The company choosing to act in the way they did is an incredibly sad and petty thing to do.
You just want to get them all in a room and tell them to stop being such fucking babies.
falconhoof
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this is the part i just do not get why do this is bitmap just that soft??
bitmap Book had to cancel a book before but they never had pre-orders open for it.
www.eurogamer.net
I bring this up because they could have canceled this book out right but no they need the money and i don't think they're going to give the royalties to the charity I think they're going to keep them in their own pocket.
Bitmap Books' Mega Drive Visual Compendium cancelled following Sega threat of legal action
Bitmap Books, the UK publisher known for its sumptuously designed line-up of retro gaming books, has announced it's can…
www.eurogamer.net
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DeepEnigma
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Mentally sound people don't dig into social medias and feign that "people were hurt."
Low IQ false emotionals do. Dumb cunts.
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well shit according to reset era the RPG SNES book is trash and no its not just because they hate the author.
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Kagoshima_Luke
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Alan Silvestro
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Walliwallipaloo
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Screw people who are offended by hurty words - because it's often those people who say the craziest, most aggressive, and flippantly hostile things imaginable. And they tend to get away with it, too.
NeoIkaruGAF
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Jesus, what a shitshow.
I really don't understand why the author accepts this. I mean, I doubt he wrote a book for charity. And I really don't see how the publisher has any right to refuse royalties to the author based on the fact that he… wrote some tweets three years ago? What prevents the dude to just take his book and find another publisher? Surely this condition must be a breach of contract.
And wow, the dude who has a beef with him and stirred shit is st1ka? I'm genuinely disappointed. I've enjoyed many retro gaming YT videos from the guy.
I really don't understand why the author accepts this. I mean, I doubt he wrote a book for charity. And I really don't see how the publisher has any right to refuse royalties to the author based on the fact that he… wrote some tweets three years ago? What prevents the dude to just take his book and find another publisher? Surely this condition must be a breach of contract.
And wow, the dude who has a beef with him and stirred shit is st1ka? I'm genuinely disappointed. I've enjoyed many retro gaming YT videos from the guy.
John Bilbo
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They're pussies for not including the "offensive content". If you make a statement like that you have to include the receipts.
After reading the messages I feel embarrassed for both parties for making such a mountain out of a molehill.
After reading the messages I feel embarrassed for both parties for making such a mountain out of a molehill.
Toots
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I should have added i was only speaking about french vg publishing houses, specifically Pix'n'love.
Very predatory and lazy towards authors and readers.
Anyway buying books and reading them is always good, as long as you enjoy your time.
Begleiter
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I think the trick people are missing is that most of the actual heat Bitmap got over this was over at Bluesky, where there was an active (and very busy) thread going over how bad the book is. He opens the Chrono Trigger entry with "seven reasons why Chrono Trigger is a Final Fantasy", refers to the SNES Final Fantasy games by their old American numbering, and champions bad localisation because it's what he experienced when he was lad, and if it makes him nostalgic that makes it good. Wellredmage is a pompous, less insightful Projared. People there had plenty of animus to give the company abuse for putting out something so low quality, and the racist thing just became another stick to do it with.
I can't see how he got past editorial and I suspect part of why things went the way they did is that someone high at Bitmap feels the same way. He also has a lot of bad blood with other content creators beyond just St1ka (who is actually Portuguese and not Brazilian) and that seems to have gotten lost in the retelling as well.
I can't see how he got past editorial and I suspect part of why things went the way they did is that someone high at Bitmap feels the same way. He also has a lot of bad blood with other content creators beyond just St1ka (who is actually Portuguese and not Brazilian) and that seems to have gotten lost in the retelling as well.
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Predatory and lazy? How?
I've bought several PnL books, never had a problem.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Seems a bit over the top. I watch St1ka's channel. His whipping up the campaign that got this guy pulled from his book makes me think a lot less of him.
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Toots
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Good for you, even better if you had fun reading.
I won't google search for you, but i remember that their early releases were mostly glorified wikipedia pages, without the sourcing, and on top of that numerous delivery problems for the buyers.
Hugare
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Well, the topic is very outdated
Bitmap Books have already made another statement now saying that they've reached an agreement and the authour is having 100% of his royalties lol
Now Resetera is mad
By doing so Bitmap Books have fucked themselves with both sides. Stupid.
And the authour is now saying that he beat cancel culture, and everyone should buy his book to show cancel culture how its done
What a shitshow, honestly
My 2 cents about the whole situation: I'm brazilian, and I didnt feel offended by what he said. I see worse in GAF everyday lol
With that said, people should be aware of what they post online under their real name. It's 2025, have some common sense.
Bitmap Books have already made another statement now saying that they've reached an agreement and the authour is having 100% of his royalties lol
Now Resetera is mad
By doing so Bitmap Books have fucked themselves with both sides. Stupid.
And the authour is now saying that he beat cancel culture, and everyone should buy his book to show cancel culture how its done
What a shitshow, honestly
My 2 cents about the whole situation: I'm brazilian, and I didnt feel offended by what he said. I see worse in GAF everyday lol
With that said, people should be aware of what they post online under their real name. It's 2025, have some common sense.
TheSHEEEP
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They backpedalled.
But still, the damage is done.
Who in their right mind would still do business with them as an author?
They have proven now that they'll at least want to kick you to the gutter the second they don't like any of your opinions.
Even if yes, these opinions were actually dumb and insulting (but he apologized and we know insane Twixxer rants do happen on a bad day, so, eh, whatever).
But who is to say they won't find some other opinion "unsupportable" at some point in the future, and won't do the same thing again?
They only reversed course because people got mad this time - could've gone VERY differently.
But still, the damage is done.
Who in their right mind would still do business with them as an author?
They have proven now that they'll at least want to kick you to the gutter the second they don't like any of your opinions.
Even if yes, these opinions were actually dumb and insulting (but he apologized and we know insane Twixxer rants do happen on a bad day, so, eh, whatever).
But who is to say they won't find some other opinion "unsupportable" at some point in the future, and won't do the same thing again?
They only reversed course because people got mad this time - could've gone VERY differently.
John Bilbo
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mopspear
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I'm not really commenting on this situation but context is always helpful instead of arguing without knowing (I don't mean you Kuranghi). One could still be incorrect but we can at least try.
I had a Brazilian student (probably in his 30s) tell me they didn't have a lot of access video games when he was growing up. I found out that Brazil has extremely high import fees on foreign electronics and other goods. It was not even legal to import foreign-made games until the 1990s. If you wanted a game console, it seems like you had to buy one on the black market. If anyone can read Portuguese, here's an article (high PS4 prices) about it. I found part of it translated, plus machine translated, but it posited that it would be cheaper to fly to Miami and buy a PS4 and bring it back than to buy one in Brazil. To be fair, visa processing fees and also some kind of "goods bought abroad" tax exists as well, which would throw off this number.
If you compare the US and Brazil, Brazil has a much lower standard of living than the US. If a consumer wanted to buy a game console, he has to hope he lives post-import ban, and then has to purchase a console with an inflated price, with less money than a hypothetical American counterpart.
Also, I swear I don't have sour grapes suddenly but I bought their book The Games That Weren't. I expected there to be more visuals as games are visual medium. There was a lot of text, which seemed pretty good. On the other hand, I bought Super Mario The Ultimate Guide from Costco for $10 and that had what I was expecting. If you check the Bitmap Books website, that's how it's advertised too.
One more thing: My student thought Blanka from Street Fighter was an offensive depiction of Brazilians. I told him "No, Blanka is weird. He is not meant to represent Brazilians in general. Compare him to the people in the back of his stage." Anyway, uh... boa tarde amigo! I didn't think Nerevar would be an Argonian either... n-not that there's anything wrong with that!
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I have not seen their back pedal damage control can somebody send me a link.
yep they are still dead to me.
cireza
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Good for the author. Bitmap Books can fuck off.
At what moment can you be in a situation where you have a guy that has worked his ass off to make a book, and some random who digs tweets from ages ago, and decide to tag along with the random ? Utterly ridiculous.
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Soodanim
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You know what? Fair enough. It was a shit situation and it took some blowing up for people to see sense, but at least he held his hands up. Him giving up his own profits is more than I expected to see. I feel like companies are less likely to do that and if anything double down on the poor decision. Respect where it's due, even if it doesn't overwrite the damage done.
KenaiPhoenix
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Those... are the problematic comments?
Oh boy, if I ever make it big, these idiots are going to have a field trip with me
Oh boy, if I ever make it big, these idiots are going to have a field trip with me
RSLAEV
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Oh hey , a Bitmap Books thread. I remember I bought their "Guide to Japanese Role Playing Games" but as I read through it I kept sniffing out little bits of sjw social commentary: like how an old japanese porn game was mysoginist (What do you expect?) or how one game had a female character in a game learn magic or something to impress a guy she liked and how that was supposed to be bad for some reason. Turns out the project was spearheaded by Kurt Kalata over at HardCore Gaming 101, and dude is a serious SJW. In the end I sold it at a loss on ebay because I couldn't stand the writing. Also the screenshots were tiny as hell (gotta make more room for the bad writing I guess)
I understand wanting to boycott Bitmap books, but if you can stand buying one of their books I reccomend "The CRPG Book: A Guide to Computer Role-Playing Games (Expanded Edition)" I've read the first few chapters and it seems to be a genuine labor of love, and not poorly disguised propoganda. The PDF is on the internet archive. I think they make the digital version freely available because of the way the project was funded.
I might pick up the SNES RPG book. I like the sample images.
I understand wanting to boycott Bitmap books, but if you can stand buying one of their books I reccomend "The CRPG Book: A Guide to Computer Role-Playing Games (Expanded Edition)" I've read the first few chapters and it seems to be a genuine labor of love, and not poorly disguised propoganda. The PDF is on the internet archive. I think they make the digital version freely available because of the way the project was funded.
I might pick up the SNES RPG book. I like the sample images.
TheSHEEEP
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I mean, that's bad writing - why would anyone undergo such assumingly years-long and life-altering struggles just in order to impress a guy or a girl. It doesn't really make sense.
But I have doubts that was the given reason in the book...
But to be fair, you don't go to JRPGs to get writing and character motivations that make sense. You go there for the overly dramatized and over-the-top-ness of it.
Within that realm, going that far to impress a dude totally fits.
And yes, "The CRPG Book" is great. I've got the first (I think?) edition of it (one of the OG backers of it).
Absolute labor of love, indeed.
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cireza
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This book was a complete waste of precious paper. Full of mistakes. Poorly written. Tiny pictures and walls of uninteresting text. No effort in designing and organizing the information.
Every single game you would read the pages for, you would end up thinking the game was not worth playing. Negativity all over the place.
It is this book for which I wrote a review, listing all the mistakes I found, and they never published it. Even after several tries.
All their reviews are filtered so they display proudly 100% buyers recommend. You won't find a single 1 or 2 stars review on their entire site.
Absolute scam.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Oh hey , a Bitmap Books thread. I remember I bought their "Guide to Japanese Role Playing Games" but as I read through it I kept sniffing out little bits of sjw social commentary: like how an old japanese porn game was mysoginist (What do you expect?) or how one game had a female character in a game learn magic or something to impress a guy she liked and how that was supposed to be bad for some reason. Turns out the project was spearheaded by Kurt Kalata over at HardCore Gaming 101, and dude is a serious SJW. In the end I sold it at a loss on ebay because I couldn't stand the writing. Also the screenshots were tiny as hell (gotta make more room for the bad writing I guess)
I understand wanting to boycott Bitmap books, but if you can stand buying one of their books I reccomend "The CRPG Book: A Guide to Computer Role-Playing Games (Expanded Edition)" I've read the first few chapters and it seems to be a genuine labor of love, and not poorly disguised propoganda. The PDF is on the internet archive. I think they make the digital version freely available because of the way the project was funded.
I might pick up the SNES RPG book. I like the sample images.
That's a shame about the JRPG book. I guess it makes sense that Kurt Kulata was on it because it's been plastered on the HG101 site forever. Finding out that dude was such a weirdo was disappointing - the site was always a helpful resource, though it has also gone downhill in recent years.
I've been meaning to get the CRPG one forever.
Yeah, hearing about the Hg 101 stuff was really sad to hear.
Doomtrain
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Social media was a mistake.
The entire point of the technology is for people to broadcast their personal opinions out into the world. And it turns out that, human nature being what it is, other people want to hurt and punish them for having opinions that don't align with theirs.
This means that inherently, you can't say anything unique or interesting, because the "acceptable" discourse has already been settled. You aren't allowed to have your own opinion. You can just signal-boost the pre-approved consensus. At which point, you aren't actually broadcasting your own opinion anymore.
Puritans will argue that it's only "bad" opinions that they want to shut down, and that they're helping by doing so. I call bullshit. "Bad" is in the eye of the beholder. Leftists say offensive, ignorant things all the time -- they just aren't things that THEY personally find offensive. (For the record, I think saying stupid things is a human problem, not something specific to any particular tribe, but I credit Leftists with popularizing cancel culture, so I'm going to call out their hypocrisy there).
People are going to say dumb things. People are going to say things other people disagree with. That has to be okay. We're all in glass houses.
More and more, I think people just weren't meant to communicate on such a mass scale. It's destroying our ability to see each other as individuals, and with it, our own humanity.
The entire point of the technology is for people to broadcast their personal opinions out into the world. And it turns out that, human nature being what it is, other people want to hurt and punish them for having opinions that don't align with theirs.
This means that inherently, you can't say anything unique or interesting, because the "acceptable" discourse has already been settled. You aren't allowed to have your own opinion. You can just signal-boost the pre-approved consensus. At which point, you aren't actually broadcasting your own opinion anymore.
Puritans will argue that it's only "bad" opinions that they want to shut down, and that they're helping by doing so. I call bullshit. "Bad" is in the eye of the beholder. Leftists say offensive, ignorant things all the time -- they just aren't things that THEY personally find offensive. (For the record, I think saying stupid things is a human problem, not something specific to any particular tribe, but I credit Leftists with popularizing cancel culture, so I'm going to call out their hypocrisy there).
People are going to say dumb things. People are going to say things other people disagree with. That has to be okay. We're all in glass houses.
More and more, I think people just weren't meant to communicate on such a mass scale. It's destroying our ability to see each other as individuals, and with it, our own humanity.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Well thats a bummer because i just bought that book. Oh well.
Chittagong
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Stop trying to defuse this by making even more donations to even more charities you retards.
Make good books, disregard the politics, stay of reeeee spaces and enjoy the well earned profits.
Ishma3L
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Sorry, what part of what he tweeted makes him a racist?
SomeNorseGuy
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Fuck off! If you didn't want it to "blow up" then you shouldn't have made a whole virtue-signalling statement about it. You're only sorry that it were noticed outside of mentally challenged blue-haired circles. Guess they were all "shocked-pikachu" that not everyone was seal clapping for this.
Ishma3L
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Omnipunctual Godot
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I think it was a stupid, knee-jerk reaction on their part. That said, everything seems to be mended, so I won't write them off. I think they make quality books compared to most of the others out there.
same
that's what I'm still trying to figure out myself.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Seriously, what a mess. Not to mention the damage this will inevitably do when it comes to convincing new authors to work with them.
Like, I don't have a horse in this race. I don't give a shit who was maybe being racist or if someone was abused by an illegal immigrant or whatever the fuck the winging is about. Just make a good book and shut the fuck up.