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Black Desert Online |OT| Come on in, the sand's fine [Mediah Update]

Mephala

Member
How's the difference between DUO and TRI?

I have close to 80M now, really close to 56 and I want to buy my Awakened weapon. Thing is, DUO cost 60M but TRI goes to 140M, I'm quite far to reach that right now, but I also did read TRI is the biggest improvement. So.... should I buy the DUO weapon now or just farm till I have enough for TRI?

The DUO between TRI is very good. It is also the one that begins enhancement hell that is, if you fail your TRI attempt there is a chance you go back down to PRI.
I believe the higher the enhance at this point the higher the increase. So if DUO gave you an increase of 8AP TRI will increase further by 10 or 12. Can't remember exact numbers.

I regret not going for a stronger awakening weapon straight up when I started. It just made grinding harder. :\

Edit. I guess it sort of depends where you're at with other gear too. Paying the 60 and saving the rest for other gear might actually be better pay off.
 

Ferr986

Member
The DUO between TRI is very good. It is also the one that begins enhancement hell that is, if you fail your TRI attempt there is a chance you go back down to PRI.
I believe the higher the enhance at this point the higher the increase. So if DUO gave you an increase of 8AP TRI will increase further by 10 or 12. Can't remember exact numbers.

I regret not going for a stronger awakening weapon straight up when I started. It just made grinding harder. :\

Edit. I guess it sort of depends where you're at with other gear too. Paying the 60 and saving the rest for other gear might actually be better pay off.

The rest is Ultimate Rosar+15 and Ultimate Grunil+15, and getting Jarette accesories (I'm gonna receive a pack soon for that 30days thingy).

I also want to buy a weapon for Ranger (luckily I can swap gear and acc).

Another thing is availability. There's 5 DUOs right now but TRIs are a lot rarer. But I don't know how viable is a DUO outside of Mediah, nor how fast would be getting +60M more to get the TRI :/

I guess I could also get the DUO now, farm faster with it, and sell it back when I can afford the TRI. I'll lose the 15% but meh...
 
Has anyone encountered issues with the Beauty Salon not saving? I'm trying to make some changes to my character (have a Value Pack active) and they don't seem to be applying. I can change things like hair style, but changes to body shape in particular don't seem to be sticking, every time I go back to the Beauty menu the changes have reset.

I think there is a bug right now that resets body changes when you go into the beauty menu. If you have your changes saved you can re-apply them and save but it resets every time you enter the menu so you have to be careful.
 

Quonny

Member
Alright folks.

I'm back to my horse fucking and useless item trading ways.

Should I move my operations to the new areas like Valencia City? Currently main base is in Heidel for the most part.
 

Akronis

Member
So I recently jumped back in after a year (only got to 15 before realizing I wasn't in the mood for an MMO).

There is WAAAAY too much to this game. Is there a good place that will ease me into some of these concepts?

In addition to that, what's the best way to have fun with friends in this game? From what I've seen, this game does not have a lot to offer with friends.

EDIT: lol just noticed the mega guide in OP. Reading that now.
 
So I recently jumped back in after a year (only got to 15 before realizing I wasn't in the mood for an MMO).

There is WAAAAY too much to this game. Is there a good place that will ease me into some of these concepts?

In addition to that, what's the best way to have fun with friends in this game? From what I've seen, this game does not have a lot to offer with friends.

Pick a thing.
A THING.

Then learn that one thing.
Quonny picked horse fucking


You can pretty much get a whole game out of any of the game's systems. There's fukken cooking and shit. After you get your bearings on the basic movement and control of the UI, any one system isn't really going to drown you in complexity, but don't expect to be a master of all the life skills.
 

Quonny

Member

l e t s g o

also wtf does processing not waste energy anymore?

So I recently jumped back in after a year (only got to 15 before realizing I wasn't in the mood for an MMO).

There is WAAAAY too much to this game. Is there a good place that will ease me into some of these concepts?

In addition to that, what's the best way to have fun with friends in this game? From what I've seen, this game does not have a lot to offer with friends.

EDIT: lol just noticed the mega guide in OP. Reading that now.

As Hex said, pick something and focus on it. It will naturally lead you into other professions. You like trading? You'll learn how to gather and process. You'll learn the town/minion system and depending on the type of trader you are, learn how to fish.

Everything is connected, so find something that sounds cool and do that.
 
l e t s g o

also wtf does processing not waste energy anymore?



As Hex said, pick something and focus on it. It will naturally lead you into other professions. You like trading? You'll learn how to gather and process. You'll learn the town/minion system and depending on the type of trader you are, learn how to fish.

Everything is connected, so find something that sounds cool and do that.

I heard they made changes to shit to make energy less death, so I'm guessing that's what it was. I'm still just driving a cart around, too lazy to start enslaving goblins.
 

Tomeru

Member
I'm nearly lvl30, and I've focused on questing. I'm thinking it's time I learn some other stuff now. What do you veterans recommend?
 

Quonny

Member
I'm nearly lvl30, and I've focused on questing. I'm thinking it's time I learn some other stuff now. What do you veterans recommend?

Fishing, imo, should be the backbone of any new player. It's easy money and enables you to explore other activities. You should also learn how to maximize workers and the intricacies of owning property.

Farming is surprisingly enjoyable, and while complex if you want to master it, is pretty simple to get into. Trading is pretty hard until you get to the point where you have a bit of an empire, then it gets really enjoyable. And then there's horse breeding. I enjoyed it, I know some people hate it.
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
I will say that trading and fishing can go hand in hand. Both give bonuses for having long trading routes. As far as any of the game's professions being enjoyable is debatable. Fishing at least has a mini game I guess. Trading you honestly just afk while auto traveling somewhere. Same with horse leveling except that's a billion times worse. Gathering is ok I guess if you have an idea of where you're supposed to be looking.
 

Ferr986

Member
Yhos roulette items that you sometimes get are the most bullshit thing I have even saw. They don't even hide how it fucking stops at an accesory and then move again to go to a black stone.
 
Alright folks.

I'm back to my horse fucking and useless item trading ways.

Should I move my operations to the new areas like Valencia City? Currently main base is in Heidel for the most part.

You're pretty safe to extend towards Altanova. Keep the main base of operation at Heidel as it's basically smack in the middle. But Valencia is an absolute logistical nightmare. It's possible to node network over there but don't expect any easy autopilot trading to there because there is none. I don't know if the bonuses of trading from that far East is worth the effort.
 

Ferr986

Member
Was doing Knowledge at Sausan for that 55 quest, trying to not kill any enemy to not making any kid angry. Still got PK'ed. The good ol' Black Desert Community didn't change I see.
 
Was doing Knowledge at Sausan for that 55 quest, trying to not kill any enemy to not making any kid angry. Still got PK'ed. The good ol' Black Desert Community didn't change I see.
Oh is that a PK hotspot? I was there earlier trying to find a place to XP at on my Musa. Some Striker glared at me, but otherwise people left me alone.

That place is so busy though.
 

Ferr986

Member
Oh is that a PK hotspot? I was there earlier trying to find a place to XP at on my Musa. Some Striker glared at me, but otherwise people left me alone.

That place is so busy though.

It is , although I have some kind of natural scent that atracts idiots. Yesterday already got yelled a couple of times (not PK'ed though) and in my old days I constantly got PK'ed at Catfish. Usually people say they don't really get PK'ed that's why I think this game has something against me lol
 

mintylurb

Member
It is , although I have some kind of natural scent that atracts idiots. Yesterday already got yelled a couple of times (not PK'ed though) and in my old days I constantly got PK'ed at Catfish. Usually people say they don't really get PK'ed that's why I think this game has something against me lol
Sausage and pirate island are pk hotspots. You really should go in a group when you go to those hotspots.
Next time go with xtech as he is death magnet
 

Hubb

Member
Yhos roulette items that you sometimes get are the most bullshit thing I have even saw. They don't even hide how it fucking stops at an accesory and then move again to go to a black stone.

Apparently as soon as you open the box/chest/whatever the loot is already decided. The roulette portion is just there to extract salt from you and I guess make it seem like next time you'll get the big item.

If you have a bunch of boxes and open them continuously and just spam spacebar. It'll pretty much skip the whole roulette portion and just show the item you won.
 

wrongway

Member
I'm nearly lvl30, and I've focused on questing. I'm thinking it's time I learn some other stuff now. What do you veterans recommend?
Fishing is definitely a great thing to pick up. I've been doing a bunch of just afk fishing the last few days while busy with other stuff (and while lounging around sick all weekend, yay), just checking in periodically to sell stuff and get new rods. I've picked up several character levels from it, and I hit something like 20M in cash so I splurged on replacing my newbie gear. So yeah, I recommend getting established in fishing for sure. :D
 

garath

Member
Fishing is definitely a great thing to pick up. I've been doing a bunch of just afk fishing the last few days while busy with other stuff (and while lounging around sick all weekend, yay), just checking in periodically to sell stuff and get new rods. I've picked up several character levels from it, and I hit something like 20M in cash so I splurged on replacing my newbie gear. So yeah, I recommend getting established in fishing for sure. :D

I just started fishing but how are you making your money? Selling the raw fish or doing something else? I ended up with a bunch of fish for half a day afk farming so opted to cook a little with them. Net loss but got cooking skill lol
 

wrongway

Member
I just started fishing but how are you making your money? Selling the raw fish or doing something else? I ended up with a bunch of fish for half a day afk farming so opted to cook a little with them. Net loss but got cooking skill lol

I've just been dumping them at the trader, mostly for sake of expedience. They aren't worth much by themselves. I only get maybe like 30-50k per trip. But every so often I get one of those relic shards, and those sell for something like 600k on the market, so the bulk of my fishing cash has come from those.

I should level up my cooking too though. Apparently just eating food levels your Health fitness skill, which boosts your total HP (and maybe mana?).
 

mxgt

Banned
I've played 40 hours since Steam release and I'm level 23.

I feel like I should start levelling but I'm having a lot of fun just running around cities fishing, cooking and doing other bits.
 

Quonny

Member
I've played 40 hours since Steam release and I'm level 23.

I feel like I should start levelling but I'm having a lot of fun just running around cities fishing, cooking and doing other bits.

Nah, do what you want to do. The PVE combat side of the game is as big or small of an aspect as you want to make it.
 

arimanius

Member
I've had my eye on this since release but never had the time to delve into it until now. Finally picked it up on steam last night. Are most people still on orwen - calpheon#1?
 

Freeman76

Member
I've played 40 hours since Steam release and I'm level 23.

I feel like I should start levelling but I'm having a lot of fun just running around cities fishing, cooking and doing other bits.

Im playing the same way, 100 hours level 36. Its not that im dragging my heels I just find the life stuff relaxing.
 
I've played 40 hours since Steam release and I'm level 23.

I feel like I should start levelling but I'm having a lot of fun just running around cities fishing, cooking and doing other bits.

Keep doing it mate! Are you doing the life quests?

Call your black spirit, use the "GUIDE" button, and take the introduction quests to all of them. Some of them will teach you to process some of the best items! some of the later rewards also offer hard and sharp black stones:eek:)

Just keep collecting everything. Once you get to skilled 5 gathering, you can collect better equipment with much more durability.

I recommend you buy some sute tea of the market. gives 8% life skill xp. lasts 90 / 120 minutes. A good buff.

if you're running out of space, buy a wagon (or buy 4) and have them in the stable. so as your collecting amount goes up, just keep stalking them up!

it might be a good idea to buy a basic lifeskill outfit in the auction house. they are not to expensive. you could buy the gathering, processing and fishing set. they are often on the market. they are a lot more rare and expensive to get the +1, +2, +3 and +4 versions:eek:

If you can have some workers start collecting potato/barley/wheat/corn (grains) you can start stalking up for your eventual beer production:D the workers just collect in the background while you're running around!

if you need inventory space, you can press 0, and go to the "suggested quests" and take the inventory expansion quests.
To get more weight, I'd save up my loyalty points (you get 100 every day you log in), and once you get 1400 points (14 days of login), buy a 50 pound+ weight increase from the loyalty shop. You can buy 4 per character.
It's a good thing to be able to carry more stuff around:)
 

mxgt

Banned
Keep doing it mate! Are you doing the life quests?

Call your black spirit, use the "GUIDE" button, and take the introduction quests to all of them. Some of them will teach you to process some of the best items! some of the later rewards also offer hard and sharp black stones:eek:)

Just keep collecting everything. Once you get to skilled 5 gathering, you can collect better equipment with much more durability.

I recommend you buy some sute tea of the market. gives 8% life skill xp. lasts 90 / 120 minutes. A good buff.

if you're running out of space, buy a wagon (or buy 4) and have them in the stable. so as your collecting amount goes up, just keep stalking them up!

it might be a good idea to buy a basic lifeskill outfit in the auction house. they are not to expensive. you could buy the gathering, processing and fishing set. they are often on the market. they are a lot more rare and expensive to get the +1, +2, +3 and +4 versions:eek:

If you can have some workers start collecting potato/barley/wheat/corn (grains) you can start stalking up for your eventual beer production:D the workers just collect in the background while you're running around!

if you need inventory space, you can press 0, and go to the "suggested quests" and take the inventory expansion quests.
To get more weight, I'd save up my loyalty points (you get 100 every day you log in), and once you get 1400 points (14 days of login), buy a 50 pound+ weight increase from the loyalty shop. You can buy 4 per character.
It's a good thing to be able to carry more stuff around:)

Thanks for the tips!

I have a few workers at the moment - one is doing corn, the rest are doing mining.

Quick question - I have processed a load of Iron Ore into the Melted version, but I can't seem to process it further into Iron Ingots? it just keeps failing over and over - is there a requirement before I can do this? I know I can get workers to do it, but it'd be nice to do it manually as well.
 

TheFatMan

Member
I wish my computer could handle the graphics of this game, but I've spent all of my money on console gaming over the last few years and I'm pretty sure my shit would melt if I tried to run this.

Shame really because i think I would really have a good time with it.
 

Quonny

Member
I wish my computer could handle the graphics of this game, but I've spent all of my money on console gaming over the last few years and I'm pretty sure my shit would melt if I tried to run this.

Shame really because i think I would really have a good time with it.

My 770 garbage GPU runs it pretty well.
 

Mephala

Member
>_>

No harm in trying the free trial maybe. I played the first few months below minimum specs in CPU. Then again I don't usually chase graphics. It doesn't really take away the experience for me if I'm enjoying the game. The combat wasn't as smooth sometimes and some busy areas are problematic but for a lot of the early game and soloing stuff it was quite ok.
 
Thanks for the tips!

I have a few workers at the moment - one is doing corn, the rest are doing mining.

Quick question - I have processed a load of Iron Ore into the Melted version, but I can't seem to process it further into Iron Ingots? it just keeps failing over and over - is there a requirement before I can do this? I know I can get workers to do it, but it'd be nice to do it manually as well.

Yes exactly mate. You need to some specific quests.

If you've not already done so, on your quest log in the right side of the screen, there should be a little wheel- if you click it, you can customize the visibility and type of quests you can see. Make sure you have the quests marked "Life" checked. These are the green quests. They are all related to life skills.


You need to start the question chain here; http://bddatabase.net/us/quest/2100/1/

Eventually it leads into quests that unlock how to smelt ingots and make plywood from trees. There are others. You learn shaking, heating, mixing.

Incendar has a guide on how he raises gathering fast around velia:

part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_S32ciILg

part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX_yna75x-Y&t





The basic idea is this:

If you sell your copper or iron directly to the marketplace, you might be able to sell 500 of them for 300-330K - Remember that the auction house takes a 30% cut of your profit.

If you refine those copper/iron/zinc/titanium/lead/tin into shards, you can sell 500 of those for about 800K or more. The fixed prices make sure that the time you invest into processing base materials is rewarded.

But be careful- Sometimes people want a base material. Coal might sell, but once you try to sell processed coal, people might not buy it. Sometimes people need a base material that hasn't been refined.

The best way to try and figure out what is in demand is to check the auction house. You can easily access it with ESC (you don't have to go up to a marketplace vendor to check. you can check anywhere) - search for "ore", "shard", "ingot", "timber", "log"; "plywood" and other generic terms, and then you can see how many are on sale.

Items that sell fast- like most types of plywood or ingots, you can see all the listings have been posted within the last couple of hours. That means the item moves really fast. But you can also see with some items, that the last purchases of those items are 3-4 days ago.
This matters because you can only have 30 listings at once. You cannot put up 1000 hundreds of things to sell at once. you need to clear inventory before you put new stock up (or remove the things that doesnt sell). It adds some strategy and it makes it hard for whales to destroy the market.



As a general rule, you will be rewarded if you choose to keep your items and refine them later. You will make a lot more money if you keep your copper and iron. You might make copper shards. They sell a lot, because people need copper (and zinc) to make brass- Thats what people use to make Grunil. Some people they make hundreds of pieces of Grunil every day full force. People need grunil pieces to try and enchant so they just chug through them fast. this keeps the market in constant supply and demand.

your grunil and tartaris and agerian armors- they sell fast.


So one can be really smart about trying to keep sitting on their materials, and also just sit on them and wait for the right time. it might be six months, or longer. A few months ago, suddenly Fir Timber became the hawt sauce. that was usually really hard to sell.

Right now a lot of the valencia materials are not that hawt, but that can change.





What you could also do is allocate things to your alt. If your main is primarily in Heidel cooking and doing stuff, maybe you want to have another gathering character you position at goat mountain or near a place with pigs or bears or somewhere where the meat/skin/fur/blood/bone/horns are really valueable. Everytime you skin or process an animal you use one energy. so your characters can only process animals as much energy they have.

That is why that getting more energy and more contribution are just as important as increasing your combat level. You guys are doing it right by not missing the importance of life skills. In other games, life skills is like a side attraction- In this game, sorta like SWG (but still different) life skillers are really rewarded.

If you're a good life skiller you can make comparable income to the people who grind a lot hardcore, and that allows you to buy end game armor and weapons if they are placed on the marketplace.

That to me is really cool. because it means that when I am burned out from grinding or dont have much time, I can just relax and do life skills. Later on in the game, when you have 50-100 workers, they process so much for you that you can process 24/7 nonstop without running out of wood/ore/minerals/food to process.


your workers effectiveness goes up by level and rank. White and Green Workers are not worth it. Delete them. Go to to the worker exchange guy in every city and use 5 energy to RNG a new worker. Buy the blue workers. Sometimes you're lucky and get a yellow worker. If you're really lucky you might get a orange one (artisan).

A workers effectiveness increases by 50% at every level. So a yellow worker is 50% better than a blue worker, and a orange is 50% better than a yellow. At every 10 level you can promote a worker. but you should probably wait until they are level 30 to begin promoting them. then if you promote a level 30 blue and he passes his exam, he will be a yellow level 1, and go all the way up to level 30, and then you can promote again to artisian lvl 30 (which is max). But I heard they might introduce legendary workers at some point? That would be crazy!
 

Ferr986

Member
Yeaah awakened!

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That quest was annoying. Seriously wtf at the golems? I dunno if it was lag but I keep getting ghost hitted everywhere.

After awakened I went straight to buy a green DUO Scythe... then I saw the TRI at minimun price (-120m) and my hand pressed buy without even noticing :/ Dunno if I did right considering how much stuff I need to upgrade but oh well, I guess I was going to buy it sooner or later anyways (I really not going to upgrade stuff, nope).

Anyways, relieved now, I'll finally be able to waste time Life skilling more.
 

Freeman76

Member
I wish my computer could handle the graphics of this game, but I've spent all of my money on console gaming over the last few years and I'm pretty sure my shit would melt if I tried to run this.

Shame really because i think I would really have a good time with it.

Im in a similae boat and i tried it anyway lol.

Game is so good I bought a secondhand gtx970 to enjoy the lovely graphics a bit more :)
 

Mithos

Member
Yeaah awakened!
That quest was annoying. Seriously wtf at the golems? I dunno if it was lag but I keep getting ghost hitted everywhere.

The golem''s have AoE attacks, so unless your out of range you get hit like mad ^^
And gratz, I also have a Sorc awakened (56), but switched to Dark Knight when that came, it is also awakened (57).

"Playing" on the EU servers also, well AFK ing for the daily boardgame + the daily Hunting + bossscolls ATM, got hooked on T.E.R.A. again for some reason =/
 

Mephala

Member
Yeaah awakened!

That quest was annoying. Seriously wtf at the golems? I dunno if it was lag but I keep getting ghost hitted everywhere.

After awakened I went straight to buy a green DUO Scythe... then I saw the TRI at minimun price (-120m) and my hand pressed buy without even noticing :/ Dunno if I did right considering how much stuff I need to upgrade but oh well, I guess I was going to buy it sooner or later anyways (I really not going to upgrade stuff, nope).

Anyways, relieved now, I'll finally be able to waste time Life skilling more.

The golems have this weird tracking invisible ranged attack. By the time I took my Sorce to them I had fought them a few times before so I dodge the first two and then fly in and tank the last hit with Dark Flame. Funnily enough I struggled a lot more on my Maehwa but I suspect that may have been due to both having weaker armor and fighting the golems in the wrong place (they would gang up on me and I had to fight 3 at once... I didn't happen).

I turned my TRI into a DUO not long ago. :(
 
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