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Blade Runner 2049 Review Thread
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Chained Prometheus
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To be fair, it's a beloved film that requires multiple viewings for most audiences to really enjoy it. Blade Runner makes you do a bit of work for that appreciation.
Put simply, really enjoyed it. I would have changed a few things here and there, but by and large it felt like it paid homage (or better put, an extension to) the original while being it's own beast.
I was in processing mode after it finished, but the more I uncouple the film from the original's legacy and what it meant to me at the time I saw it, and appreciate the sequel on its own terms, the fonder I become.
It did what The Force Awakens didn't have the courage to do.
I was in processing mode after it finished, but the more I uncouple the film from the original's legacy and what it meant to me at the time I saw it, and appreciate the sequel on its own terms, the fonder I become.
It did what The Force Awakens didn't have the courage to do.
Sanctuary
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A lot of people have been saying that, and I don't find it hard to believe. The original didn't have much in the upstairs as it was. I'd actually find it harder to believe that this film could be even worse in that regard.
The most "iconic" aspect of the original is the world building and effects, yet the mundane and ultimately nothing plot and characters that had asked similar questions better in other films somehow continually gets glossed over. "Because best sci-fi film ever...because!".
Lights and Waves
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Honestly, I can visualize you typing out "Yikes" thinking it would be such a clever response.
QuantumZebra
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If this thread turns into people shitting on Blade Runner I'm breaking stuff. I don't know what, but stuff is getting broken. Next thing we'll have people in here talking about the underratedness of the Star Wars prequels and how TFA sucked.
Rutger Hauer's acting alone puts it above pretty much all Sci-Fi films not named Alien/s. The rest of the film (pacing, acting, dialogue, score, effects, atmosphere, minimalism) is God-Tier.
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jack_package_200
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Pretty sure this already happened...
Chained Prometheus
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... Why?
I mean, I love the original Blade Runner, but it's not a perfect film. There's plenty for people to hypothetically criticize the film about.
It's one thing for people to just senselessly bash on the OG Blade Runner, but there's no reason to get mad at someone offering a logical and thought-out argument for why it never quite resonated with them as much as it did with others.
Anybody trying to claim 2049's pacing is better is DELUDED. As for story, it tried something bold, the problem is the execution doesn't exactly allow it to be as powerful as they imagined it would be, so I wouldn't say it's better than the original.
The "mundane" and "nothing" plot are great though, Blade Runner takes its time and introduces you to this world, it lets peak into it organically. It's not always non stop action sure. Many people have zero problem with that.
2049 has some scenes that evoke it, but too little and ultimately it kind of fails in that regard.
The video game did a better job for instance.
And you're still gonna get scenes where not much happens in 2049 anyway.
I sound negative about 2049, I repeat I think it's a decent flick, I just feel like some people that never really loved Blade Runner in the first place are now trying to claim this is somehow better while it really isn't.
QuantumZebra
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No film is perfect, and all of them have their critics (though Ghostbusters fans seem allergic to this notion, lol).
I've seen plenty of good critiques of Blade Runner. None of them have come from GAF so far. Just like TFA/SW... they all seem incompetently written and totally miss the mark.
Anyway, this thread is venturing into spoilers and thus, I'm out
Sanctuary
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At least we agree on that. I don't need to write out a ten paragraph dissertation either to sum up why the film did absolutely nothing for me, and I've given it plenty of chances to do so since the 80s. I just rewatched it last night too.
AuthenticM
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Lord of Castamere
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Seeing it tonight. Pretty hyped. Sounds like this is going to be something special.
Yes older movie
Not a fan of feeling like I'm forced to watch a 80s movie to enjoy this one
Kenzodielocke
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First of all, this is ridiculous. Second of all, Blade Runner is one of these 80s movies that will NEVER look bad. Jeez dude, if you don't want to watch it, then don't. However, watch Blade Runner, man.
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Fair warning, don't watch the Double Toasted review video.
Yep, they spoil the "the story is a spoiler" thing. Don't they know, just because something is cleared up early, doesn't mean it's not a spoiler?
Inferno313
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I thought you had to be at least 13 to post on this site
Kenzodielocke
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I don't know guys. Don't think you are doind yourselves a favour by watching a double feature.
QuantumZebra
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I knew it.
I mean, I'm still gravely saddened by it.
But I knew it.
The movie looks better than films that have come out in 2017 and is literally timeless, same as Alien(s) or Terminator 1/2 - it feels like an alternate reality - not an old movie. You're literally hurting yourself by not having seen it.
I just watched the OG Blade Runner last night and am still tempted to do the double feature. Only reason I'm not going to is because I want to be 100% alert and ready to fucking go when 2049 starts.
This should have been my post goddammit
Master Of Illusion
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I have a friend who legit refuses to watch any movies made before 1992.
People suck.
Static Veins
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Off to see this in an hour. Rewatched the original twice this week; still one of my all-time favourite films. Super pumped!
Inferno313
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The kid'll be on his phone for the whole movie and then complain that it was slow and boring. Let it go. He's not worth it.
QuantumZebra
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LOL
So missing out on pretty much all the best films ever made? OG Star Wars, Blade Runner, Terminator 1 & 2, Alien and Aliens, Ghostbusters, Predator, Robocop, Total Recall...
And that's literally just sci-fi/action/horror from the 80's ... what the fuck
Humanity is doomed
Slackbladder
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Christ. I still watch movies from the silent era. Recently got Metropolis on Blu-ray. It's a hard watch, sure. But since when has art only ever been easy?
Inferno313
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For my most important paper in college, I wrote about dystopian films. It was a blast. Covered Metropolis, Fahrenheit 451, Blade Runner, and Children of Men.
QuantumZebra
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Cyberpunk/Dystopian is my hardest crush.
All of those + The Fifth Element, Brazil, 12 Monkeys, Johnny Mnemonic, Hardware, Screamers, Hackers, Circuitry Man, Judge Dredd, The Matrix, The Lawnmower Man, The Running Man, Cyborg, etc... so good
lttp: Blade Runner 2049
This movie made NO SENSE to me at all. First off, why is there Atari logos everywhere if it's 2049? Atari died like back in 1982, duh. Second, why are all the robot people so sappy and emotional while all the normal people are monotone and shit. Shouldn't it be the other way around? I haven't seen the first one but I was told this was a reboot of that but nothing made any sense in this! If the robot people have super strength and can break walls, how can they get killed from one shot from a pistol? Why is this so looooooooong, there's all these shots of people just staring at pictures and eyes and walls like oh my god I was bored out my mind watching this. My friend Alex Trimboli told me Batista was supposed to kick ass in this but he can barely put up a fight against Ryan Gosling? This took me completely out of it, Batista could totally whoop Ryan Gosling's bitch ass irl.
This movie was dull as shit and I regret ever renting this on Amazon Prime. 2/10 stars, only giving this a 2 because of my boy jared leto
This movie made NO SENSE to me at all. First off, why is there Atari logos everywhere if it's 2049? Atari died like back in 1982, duh. Second, why are all the robot people so sappy and emotional while all the normal people are monotone and shit. Shouldn't it be the other way around? I haven't seen the first one but I was told this was a reboot of that but nothing made any sense in this! If the robot people have super strength and can break walls, how can they get killed from one shot from a pistol? Why is this so looooooooong, there's all these shots of people just staring at pictures and eyes and walls like oh my god I was bored out my mind watching this. My friend Alex Trimboli told me Batista was supposed to kick ass in this but he can barely put up a fight against Ryan Gosling? This took me completely out of it, Batista could totally whoop Ryan Gosling's bitch ass irl.
This movie was dull as shit and I regret ever renting this on Amazon Prime. 2/10 stars, only giving this a 2 because of my boy jared leto
Inferno313
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ugh. i might as well just watch speed racer again. you know. that modern classic of filmmaking excellence.
I miss the IMDB forums.
More_Badass
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So you havent seen Alien or Aliens, The Thing, Rambo, 2001, Stand By Me, Die Hard, Terminator, The Shining? Some of films best works are from the 70s and 80s
At what year does a movie become an old movie?
You joke, but we all know THAT guy.
Reptars Revenge
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Man that avatar pic says it all. Continuity be damned
i watched blade runner final cut again last night cause i'm seeing 2049 tomorrow night and it's as good as i remember
i still get a little uncomfortable with the rapey scene where deckard is trying to help rachael and he blocks her leaving his apartment and tells her to tell him to kiss her and she's conflicted, not knowing what to do because she just learned that she's a replicant when she thought she was a human all along
i still get a little uncomfortable with the rapey scene where deckard is trying to help rachael and he blocks her leaving his apartment and tells her to tell him to kiss her and she's conflicted, not knowing what to do because she just learned that she's a replicant when she thought she was a human all along
SuperStiltzkin
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One of my favorite forum movie criticisms is "here's how I'd win in a fight like that."
ElBoxyBrown
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Technically Atari still lives. They have 32 years to come back and dominate.
QuantumZebra
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That's kind of the point. Deckard is not a good person. He's a flawed, fucked-up person.
The scene was kind of him forcing her to "give in to being a replicant, but be a human as well" IMO... but no less awkward - for good reason.
Hasphat'sAnts
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93%?
Wow, garbage movie confirmed.
Wow, garbage movie confirmed.
Who's joking? That's word-for-word what Subpar Spatula will post in 6 months
Inferno313
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I paid close attention to that scene on my rewatch last, as I've seen some posts here and elsewhere that argue that it's just a tone-deaf scene the misunderstands consent.
I'm not sure I totally buy that. I think there is something intentional going on in that scene. For one thing the sensual and romantic score of the scene takes a dark left turn as soon as Deckard approaches to close the door. The entire mood of the scene changes, it's very apparent to me, that everyone involved in the production knows the scene has just taken a dark turn.
I also noticed the way that Deckard talks about Rachel early in the film, he refers to her as "It", when he talks to Tyrell about her early on. To me, my reading of that scene has always been that, at that point in the film, Deckard still views her as not-human, as a thing. He wants her sexually, maybe romantically too, but he still doesn't see her as an equal.
It's a tough scene, and I totally get being bothered by it, and I fully respect the feelings of those that find that it ruins the film for them, but I do think there is thematic and artistic intent behind what's going on there.
Atari died and someone bought their name, I think. still checks out i guess but...goddamnit that's not my atari!
jack_package_200
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Bless you for the American Vandal reference.
QuantumZebra
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That's an interesting take. I have seen it countless times but I thought it was more of a slap across the face "wake up!"
time to die... hohoho