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Blazblue Continuum Shift EXTEND |OT| - Now with New Hat

So, now that I actually own the game and have to train for a relatively big tourney, could anyone give me some general Mu advice and what should I be practicing?
 

Fugu

Member
So, now that I actually own the game and have to train for a relatively big tourney, could anyone give me some general Mu advice and what should I be practicing?
- Learn to hitconfirm in the corner every time. Mu gets big damage in the corner and you're going to spend a lot of time there. If you can't do this, you'll probably lose as Mu's neutral game simply isn't that good.
- Her neutral game isn't that good, but her oki is. Learn knockdown setups.
- Learn how to run away and spam steins.
 

RoeBear

Member
It's funny it's for all those reasons I don't like Mu. It's funny I've never played her but I can sort of do her corner combos as they're so brain dead.
 
- Learn to hitconfirm in the corner every time. Mu gets big damage in the corner and you're going to spend a lot of time there. If you can't do this, you'll probably lose as Mu's neutral game simply isn't that good.
- Her neutral game isn't that good, but her oki is. Learn knockdown setups.
- Learn how to run away and spam steins.

Well I've got the corner thing down although rusty, and I've sorta been practicing the Stein spam while toying around with the noobs at the bottom of ranked, but I feel my oki is lacking and pretty much one dimensional. What are good set ups?
 

RoeBear

Member
Thanks for playing with me Solarknight. I could tell you were a little rusty but it seemed like you had those corner combos down pretty well.
 
Haha, well I better considering those were the only thing I could practice when the psp ver was all I had access to for practice.

GGs, even though I'm familiar with the Relius match up it's still annoying for me, and the Carl was good too.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Stein spam will not avail you against someone who knows what they're doing. It will only get you cheap wins, if that. In the last game when you actively did some combos, that was much better play, and you deserved the last win.
 
I'm aware that that's better, and is usually what I do, but the lag affected me in two ways; affecting my timing and making me think I could maybe get away with it >.>
 

RoeBear

Member
Solar you'd do ok if you put some steins on the ground. You only place them in the air which doesn't affect oki that much since if they hit you and you block the beams won't come. If you put more on the ground you can explode them and possibly get some free hits. It was obvious the lag was affecting you as you missed the timing of all the 63214C's
 

Fugu

Member
Stein spam will not avail you against someone who knows what they're doing. It will only get you cheap wins, if that. In the last game when you actively did some combos, that was much better play, and you deserved the last win.
That is not really true. Properly conducted stein "spam" is one of the most effective ways to stall in the game. It is hard to just run in on Mu at fullscreen.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
That is not really true. Properly conducted stein "spam" is one of the most effective ways to stall in the game. It is hard to just run in on Mu at fullscreen.

First time I've run into it, but I hardly ever see Mu players. Also, are you up for matches?
 
Solar you'd do ok if you put some steins on the ground. You only place them in the air which doesn't affect oki that much since if they hit you and you block the beams won't come. If you put more on the ground you can explode them and possibly get some free hits. It was obvious the lag was affecting you as you missed the timing of all the 63214C's

Honestly I only really do it that much because I feel safer. And it's been working, but it's the bottom of ranked so it's not like it says much. Proper Stein usage is what I need to eork on the most.
 

Fugu

Member
First time I've run into it, but I hardly ever see Mu players. Also, are you up for matches?
Couldn't last night, unfortunately.

Q plays a pretty decent Mu, as does FluxWave. Mu is pretty common online and is probably in the top five of popularity; if you troll around some player match lobbies you're likely to find a few.

Honestly I only really do it that much because I feel safer. And it's been working, but it's the bottom of ranked so it's not like it says much. Proper Stein usage is what I need to eork on the most.
I doubt that's true. If you're still playing with people at the bottom of ranked (we should probably define "bottom") then it's likely that you can win with hitconfirming alone. Mu is a character that requires you to complete your combos. Her game plan looks like this:

Neutral zoning/spacing > Combo with knockdown > Midscreen oki > Combo into corner or combo into near corner knockdown > Corner pressure/Combo

Many new Mu players get into the trap of relying on her very easy but not particularly effective air carry combos. These let your opponent tech miles in the air, which is pretty useless for you. What you need to do is end your combos on the ground with you on a frame advantage so you can use that to get more pressure in. Yes, you could (and should) work on your stein technique to make your knockdown better when it happens, but it's more important to make sure that you're getting that knockdown in the first place.
 
By bottom of ranked I mean where people don't really know how to play properly yet or abuse things they only get away with because of lag, and yes, I can and have won on hitcomfirming alone, which is why I play around with Steins there.

Anyways, Midscreen I'm usually always keeping it simple and finishing with 41236C->Stein. Most of the time it's usually 5D->6D->236D or 214D if they show that they're just going to run toward me as fast as possible and try to hit me out of it.
 

KLonso

Member
Do people still play this game online in random matchmaking on vita? I have the game from ps plus and I'm interested in starting to play.
 

RoeBear

Member
Do people still play this game online in random matchmaking on vita? I have the game from ps plus and I'm interested in starting to play.

Yeah people still play the vita version. considerably less than the PS3 version but people still play it. It's mainly because people have it free though so most are pretty bad.
 

Kamion

Member
I picked up BlazBlue again (I last played for a bit when the JP version of CS came out) because I got so hyped from the GGXrd videos...
And man I suck so much. I'm not bad when I play with friends (mostly because they're even worse than me) and I can perfect my way through Arcade... until Hazama. When he rolls around I need like 1-2 hours to finally beat him.

I guess you DO forget how to play ;_;

Anyway, the question I wanted to ask is whether I should continue playing CS or just migrate to P4A (or something) until CP is released in October? I need to relearn the game anyway and if a lot changed in CP... maybe waiting 2 months is less effort than learning characters now and relearning then.
 

RoeBear

Member
Anyway, the question I wanted to ask is whether I should continue playing CS or just migrate to P4A (or something) until CP is released in October? I need to relearn the game anyway and if a lot changed in CP... maybe waiting 2 months is less effort than learning characters now and relearning then.

I honestly wouldn't switch to P4A unless you already own it, or have played it regularly. Most CSEX characters are very similar to their CP versions, obviously not the new characters. I'd say just stick it out and try and practice a bit more
 

Asturie

Member
So I just picked this up today, played/watched the very first tutorial where it talked about the stylish system and then was told the rest of the tutorial would be told in the technical system. I am guessing that I should learn how to use the technical system and not bother with stylish?

Also, I tried playing arcade, picked Noel and did ok I suppose on Normal. Got through the first six matches, most of which went to 3 rounds. Obviously I need to go back through the tutorial but are there any tips for stuff that I should really focus on?
 

Fugu

Member
So I just picked this up today, played/watched the very first tutorial where it talked about the stylish system and then was told the rest of the tutorial would be told in the technical system. I am guessing that I should learn how to use the technical system and not bother with stylish?

Also, I tried playing arcade, picked Noel and did ok I suppose on Normal. Got through the first six matches, most of which went to 3 rounds. Obviously I need to go back through the tutorial but are there any tips for stuff that I should really focus on?
Stylish is a waste of time.

If you plan to play Noel, learn to press the drive button. Press it fast.
 

RoeBear

Member
So I preordered BBCP from Play Asia and someone on Dustloop said that they'll give the Terumi preorder code. Does anyone know if this is true?
 

Rhapsody

Banned
The tutorial's not too bad, but I think it could use a bit more work. Skullgirls and also DoA5 set the bar for me

I feel like BB's useful only for the certain type of player. There are also some more examples and topics they should've gone over.
It's a bit too wordy (but that gives it its style and flavor) and needs to let players learn how to apply it better.

It's too focused on teaching mechanics instead of learning how to play a fighter.
 

Rhapsody

Banned
Never was part of the Kokonoe army that wanted her badly. Now that she's in, I'll consider learning her if she fits my style like Rachel does.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Agh, so conflicted concerning whether I should import CP or not. I don't have anyone to play with so the answer should be obvious to me, but it sucks having to wait several months for the North American version.
 

RoeBear

Member
Agh, so conflicted concerning whether I should import CP or not. I don't have anyone to play with so the answer should be obvious to me, but it sucks having to wait several months for the North American version.

I broke down and decided to import. I play this series so much and story is great and all but I can wait till it's real cheap to find out what happens. The fact that there is still no NA release date makes me not want to wait.

I can always play with you too...
 

Rhapsody

Banned
Agh, so conflicted concerning whether I should import CP or not. I don't have anyone to play with so the answer should be obvious to me, but it sucks having to wait several months for the North American version.

I'd say get it unless story mode is important to you too. For online, quite a few of us are getting it here, including myself. Plus I'll be taking BB seriously this time (I'll aim to try and hold my own against Fugu). Several months is also going to make you ahead of a lot of people with all that tech and matchup experience.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
I broke down and decided to import. I play this series so much and story is great and all but I can wait till it's real cheap to find out what happens. The fact that there is still no NA release date makes me not want to wait.

I can always play with you too...

I'd say get it unless story mode is important to you too. For online, quite a few of us are getting it here, including myself. Plus I'll be taking BB seriously this time (I'll aim to try and hold my own against Fugu). Several months is also going to make you ahead of a lot of people with all that tech and matchup experience.

Hm, if enough people are getting it here that I could actually find people to play with online, I might as well go for it.
 
I'm getting it too. I'll also get the NA version for the story mode. :p

New lobby system is going to be great for online. Should make finding good matches and joining rooms with a lot of people more easy and accommodating.
 

Masamuna

Member
Can you save during the CT recap? I've read how long it takes to complete and I'd like to get through it on my free time before work.
 
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