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- Thread starter Drinky Crow
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Hurricane_Chris
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Speevy said:
Typically I wouldn't enter a Drinky made Nintendo thread. You guys still haven't discovered that Drinky makes these posts when he's bored and work and feels like toying with some Nintendo fanboys...
That said, this is the first time I've seen someone totally take down Drinky in one of his own threads. After this post by Speevy this thread should have been closed.
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Starcraft is better than Diablo2
Drinky Crow
Banned
But none of those games even approximate the quality and depth of Diablo 2, although the weird vaseline of nostalgia might lead you to temporarily perceive it as otherwise.
Especially fucking Earthbound, which is like sticking Suikoden 4 in the middle of a bunch of classic Konami screenshots. The best thing about that turd was Tim Rogers' wanky apologism for it on Insert Credit. Silly non-sequiturs and po-mo observational satire are only cute when the creator DOESN'T make you sit through twenty-plus hours of shitty 8-bit RPG mechanics despite his best attempts to credibly convince you that he's above all that.
Especially fucking Earthbound, which is like sticking Suikoden 4 in the middle of a bunch of classic Konami screenshots. The best thing about that turd was Tim Rogers' wanky apologism for it on Insert Credit. Silly non-sequiturs and po-mo observational satire are only cute when the creator DOESN'T make you sit through twenty-plus hours of shitty 8-bit RPG mechanics despite his best attempts to credibly convince you that he's above all that.
xabre said:
And drinky never came back with something snide to say about this? WOW. Speevy and xabre have done it.
BTW, I love Starcraft and Diablo 1 and 2, and the entire Warcraft series, but here's the way I see it. When asked which would I rather have? All the games published by blizzard and a super computer to play them on, or all the games put out for Nintendo consoles and all the machines to play them on.........Nintendo wins hands down. There is absolutely no contest here and all you people that say otherwise are either posers or drinky suck-ups.
Earthbound is so endemic of everything that is wrong with Nintendo and it's fans.
It's supposed to be "rare" or hard to find or some such shit. Only a few people "got" it. Only a select few understand the brilliance of blah blah blah blah.
Utter horseshit, of course. Earthbound is easily the worst rpg of the SNES era. Maybe ANY era. The fact that people still espouse it today just goes to show you that sometimes the dead are too dumb to know they're dead. And these people are also all huge Nintendo fans. It's like they flunked a litmus test for taste or something.
Oh, P.S. Blizzard rules Nintendo drools etc etc etc.
It's supposed to be "rare" or hard to find or some such shit. Only a few people "got" it. Only a select few understand the brilliance of blah blah blah blah.
Utter horseshit, of course. Earthbound is easily the worst rpg of the SNES era. Maybe ANY era. The fact that people still espouse it today just goes to show you that sometimes the dead are too dumb to know they're dead. And these people are also all huge Nintendo fans. It's like they flunked a litmus test for taste or something.
Oh, P.S. Blizzard rules Nintendo drools etc etc etc.
Drinky Crow
Banned
And they're still quite shy of Diablo 2's sterling standard.
AniHawk said:
Oh, you are indeed correct, my friend. However, when I use the term Nintendo, I'm mainly referring to EAD. If we extend Nintendo to include all of it's internal developers, then yeah, I guess you're right. I'm actually quite embarrased that Intelligent Systems has done a better job than Nintendo's biggest, and possibly most important division.
Well, if you refer to EAD now, you're essentially including all of it's internal developers. Seeing as how they were all brought under the EAD name. On that note, EAD has been very weak this generation when compared to other previouis generations. Not nearly as efficient as they used to be.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I appreciate the way different wordings can make one consider something in a different light. That sentence said "Multiple Nintendo titles have outsold Diablo 2 in the last decade", but in a way that makes it sound bad. Bravo!Drinky Crow said:
Late Stage Marxist
Member
:lol well playedJacobi said:
Well, this would have been correct if the restructuring had not happened. You see, Nintendo decided to take it's internal development teams and put them under the EAD label. Now, there are seperate groups within the greater whole of EAD.Oblivion said:
Check this article if you haven't yet.
http://www.n-sider.com/articleview.php?articleid=482
Digital Dark World
Member
Oblivion said:
Have you read this article? It explains the new change in Nintendo's internal structure. All internal development teams at Nintendo are now under the EAD name. External teams like IntSys or Retro Studios are not part of EAD, though.
edit: posted already
Bah. With the release of a unfinished MMORPG and a strategy game (and its expansion pack) that can't decide weather it's a rpg or not, Blizzard has really gone down-hill. Nintendo's last efforts with their most popular franchises wasn't that fantastic either but atleast they have introduced some new IPs in the meantime. That can't be said about Blizzard.
Teknopathetic
Member
>, Greater than symbol. *, Wildcard. the expression just means greater than all.
Blizzard rules.
Diablo, Diablo 2, Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3, WoW, Starcraft = all superb quality AAA titles.
On the other hand Zelda: OoT, Super Mario 64 and Metroid Prime are also up in that list.
Ghost will be the beginning of Blizzard's end.
Diablo 3 for consoles (gamepad controls, fuck K&M!) will follow and thus the legend of Blizzard dies.
Fucking console sellouts.
Diablo, Diablo 2, Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3, WoW, Starcraft = all superb quality AAA titles.
On the other hand Zelda: OoT, Super Mario 64 and Metroid Prime are also up in that list.
Ghost will be the beginning of Blizzard's end.
Diablo 3 for consoles (gamepad controls, fuck K&M!) will follow and thus the legend of Blizzard dies.
Fucking console sellouts.
Blizzard are overrated chimps in suits.
The only thing they do right is understand explicitly how powerful stat based variety and treadmill style gameplay can be.
They don't exactly release the most balanced games as well; they only refine again and again on the basis of what their fanatic fanbase wants.
Unfortunately that's more than most companies do.
Diablo II? That's just a game for monkeys that have been on type writers too long.
The core gameplay is rubbish, click, kill, fill up inventory, return to town, REPEAT AD NAUSEUM.
The only thing they do right is understand explicitly how powerful stat based variety and treadmill style gameplay can be.
They don't exactly release the most balanced games as well; they only refine again and again on the basis of what their fanatic fanbase wants.
Unfortunately that's more than most companies do.
Diablo II? That's just a game for monkeys that have been on type writers too long.
The core gameplay is rubbish, click, kill, fill up inventory, return to town, REPEAT AD NAUSEUM.
carbonbased
Member
We should do some runs together, Drinky. You play East or West?
Suburban Cowboy
Member
Blizzard>Bungie
...in having the most overrated game
...in having the most overrated game
The Guivre
Member
Quick question. Would the gaming industry exist as it does today without the success of the Nintendo company?
It's one of the first widespread and undeniably successful gaming companies. Atari? bankrupted and gutted. Matel? Back to making dolls. The Nintendo/Famicom? Gathering dust (or perhaps not gathering dust) in more GAFers' basements than some would probably care to admit. Nintendo has indeed fallen far from it's golden years, but its influence on the industry as a whole cannot be denied.
Diablo 2 I played through to it's completion once, and then I think perhaps once or twice on a LAN. I run, I click, I kill, some crap zombie hits me and kills itself thanks to my thorn enhanced paladin. There's simple and then there's. "I never knew my index finger could get tired." Starcraft, Warcraft, still straight forward, require thought, planning and just a smidge of luck. Blizzard is a good company if perhaps a little late in giving me that Ghost game that I've been waiting for. But it didn't do something like, put PC gaming on the map, put a PC in countless homes, or give rise to a character recognized throughout the civilized world as a symbol of the gaming industry.
And, since I know that perhaps 90% of those coming by this thread will pass it over on their way to the underside of the bridge. I'll do a Cliff's notes version.
1. Blizzard = good company
2. Nintendo = The declining (unfortunately) giant of the gaming industry as a whole
3. Diablo 2 = Good game.
4. Mario/Nintendo = Recognized throughout the world as a symbol of gaming. And star of MANY good games.
It's one of the first widespread and undeniably successful gaming companies. Atari? bankrupted and gutted. Matel? Back to making dolls. The Nintendo/Famicom? Gathering dust (or perhaps not gathering dust) in more GAFers' basements than some would probably care to admit. Nintendo has indeed fallen far from it's golden years, but its influence on the industry as a whole cannot be denied.
Diablo 2 I played through to it's completion once, and then I think perhaps once or twice on a LAN. I run, I click, I kill, some crap zombie hits me and kills itself thanks to my thorn enhanced paladin. There's simple and then there's. "I never knew my index finger could get tired." Starcraft, Warcraft, still straight forward, require thought, planning and just a smidge of luck. Blizzard is a good company if perhaps a little late in giving me that Ghost game that I've been waiting for. But it didn't do something like, put PC gaming on the map, put a PC in countless homes, or give rise to a character recognized throughout the civilized world as a symbol of the gaming industry.
And, since I know that perhaps 90% of those coming by this thread will pass it over on their way to the underside of the bridge. I'll do a Cliff's notes version.
1. Blizzard = good company
2. Nintendo = The declining (unfortunately) giant of the gaming industry as a whole
3. Diablo 2 = Good game.
4. Mario/Nintendo = Recognized throughout the world as a symbol of gaming. And star of MANY good games.
poppin fresh
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BlackThorn
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Apples>Lemons
Fact!
What´s the point?, they are very different companies and they produce different types of games and obviusly there is nothing as a objective value to maintain such comparasion. I could argue that I have enjoyed more Microprose games than Nintendo´s ones, but I, personally, couldn´t say Microprose>Nintendo because I don´t see the point in such sentence.
Fact!
What´s the point?, they are very different companies and they produce different types of games and obviusly there is nothing as a objective value to maintain such comparasion. I could argue that I have enjoyed more Microprose games than Nintendo´s ones, but I, personally, couldn´t say Microprose>Nintendo because I don´t see the point in such sentence.
I only waste my time explaining this because of the increasing amount of junior memebers frequenting the boards and probably don't know what the score is.
Far more Nintendo games have outsold, outscored and critically acclaimed than Blizzard games and that, unfortunately, is fact. Like I said before the reasons behind this is mostly due to Nintendo's enormous output compared to Blizzards. Nintendo isn't even considered a super versatile company but they are still waay more versatile than Blizzard has been especially after aquiring Retro and with IS being back in Rare form. One of the only ways you can logically argue this matter (without being a delusional fanbot) is to valuate each company's best IP's in certain pertinent categories in order to make it less difficult to compare such vastly different franchises. Next a consistent measuring module must be agreed upon to determine a final "win status". The determining factor for this will not consist of a handful of biased blubbering Blizz/tendo apologist holding their farcical opinions as fact while overly generalizing the opposition.
I do believe that a genuine conclusion can be reached on this issue and I think it would be a lot of fun debating it, but that conclusion will not be reached in this topic. This is just a thread created for DC and co. to play as many anti-tendo mind games as possible while attempting to retain an irrefutable position by speaking with such confident assertiveness that no-one can mistaken them of not being "dead serious" therefore leading someone to believe it to be true. But like I said before, Blizzard is one of the few companies that even deserves to be mentioned alongside Nintendo when considering the greatest game developer of all-time (not just the generation). So depending on a gamers preference and playing methods, Blizzard can be credibly argued as being the best between the two.
Sadly, since the Blizz supporters were unwilling to reasonably examine Nintendos best IP's and then maybe compare them to Blizzards this topic is just a fun little ride from beggining to end. So enjoy.
*cries a little inside knowing everything DC says is true* :_(
Far more Nintendo games have outsold, outscored and critically acclaimed than Blizzard games and that, unfortunately, is fact. Like I said before the reasons behind this is mostly due to Nintendo's enormous output compared to Blizzards. Nintendo isn't even considered a super versatile company but they are still waay more versatile than Blizzard has been especially after aquiring Retro and with IS being back in Rare form. One of the only ways you can logically argue this matter (without being a delusional fanbot) is to valuate each company's best IP's in certain pertinent categories in order to make it less difficult to compare such vastly different franchises. Next a consistent measuring module must be agreed upon to determine a final "win status". The determining factor for this will not consist of a handful of biased blubbering Blizz/tendo apologist holding their farcical opinions as fact while overly generalizing the opposition.
I do believe that a genuine conclusion can be reached on this issue and I think it would be a lot of fun debating it, but that conclusion will not be reached in this topic. This is just a thread created for DC and co. to play as many anti-tendo mind games as possible while attempting to retain an irrefutable position by speaking with such confident assertiveness that no-one can mistaken them of not being "dead serious" therefore leading someone to believe it to be true. But like I said before, Blizzard is one of the few companies that even deserves to be mentioned alongside Nintendo when considering the greatest game developer of all-time (not just the generation). So depending on a gamers preference and playing methods, Blizzard can be credibly argued as being the best between the two.
Sadly, since the Blizz supporters were unwilling to reasonably examine Nintendos best IP's and then maybe compare them to Blizzards this topic is just a fun little ride from beggining to end. So enjoy.
*cries a little inside knowing everything DC says is true* :_(
