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- Thread starter Drinky Crow
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Shut your mouth foo, I been banned on here for almost the exact same statements not more than a few months ago.koam said:
I just don't give a damn because its the truth. When Nintendo stops making shitty video games and video game related products, I'll totally be on board the Nintendo hype train.
Now Sony, theres a company that knows how to turn out a game that can be unique and innovative without designing it to be played by labotomized monkies.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Yes. If I wanted to run around like a fag, collecting keys and totally fragging in first-person,"
That's Quake, you moron.
That's Quake, you moron.
CajoleJuice
Member
Quoted for emphasis. Blizzard makes sure every single of one of their games completely kicks ass. Diablo 1 was awesome when it came out. Warcraft II and III were both amazing as well. I can't speak for WoW.Geek said:
On the other hand, Nintendo has too many amazing, ground-breaking games over the course of their history. So I would have to go with Nintendo overall. Even though a lot of their shit lately is not so great.
junkwaffle
In Front and Drawing Away
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Well sure he's a big hack, but a slash fan? Color me surprised.djtiesto said:
Do you keep these things archived anywhere?junkwaffle said:
Drinky Crow
Banned
how come I'm always the villain! 
(junkwaffle, you still rock.)
(junkwaffle, you still rock.)
Everyone has their own opinion on which is better, but I think comparing Blizzard's output to Nintendo's and then claiming that Nintendo does a lot more is sort of ridiculous.
Blizzard's titles are EXTREMELY POLISHED. The same applies to big name Nintendo titles, but those come out less often that Blizzard's titles.
Nintendo does come out with far more titles than Blizzard, but let's compare apples to apples here, and not Mario Tennis to World of Warcraft.
Blizzard's titles are EXTREMELY POLISHED. The same applies to big name Nintendo titles, but those come out less often that Blizzard's titles.
Nintendo does come out with far more titles than Blizzard, but let's compare apples to apples here, and not Mario Tennis to World of Warcraft.
K, lets see if you can keep up.Oblivion said:
Metroid Prime, pathetically easy. Mario Sunshine, pathetically easy. Wind Waker, pathetically easy.
Mario 3 could kick your ass on about half the worlds, but you'd practice and get better at that shit. Now Nintendo games are like "oh, well, 5 year old retarded kids with no fingers might play our game, so lets make sure they can beat it too."
I got the big new Revolution controller feature for you, its that the pad will have one big fat button, you hit it randomly however you want, but regardless you'll always win. Little does Nintendo realize it won't change jack about how they already make games.
I'm not asking for nonsensical violence and all that ass crap, believe me, Nintendo is at least better than the companies that feel they need to resort to that. But I would like if Nintendo, a company that lives off their hardcore fans, would throw us long time fans a bone. Twilight Princess is a step in the right direction, though it'll probably be piss easy too, but at least its something different than the G rated, screened, processed, super safe junk they've been throwing out.
In the video game world Blizzard games are an In and Out burger, beefy, meaty, all around delicious. Nintendo games are like eating a cup of splenda. You know its generic fake bullshit, and afterwards you're sick to your stomach ready to throw up.
You want more Nintendo critque? I could go on all day, but they [Nintendo] can't help it. The company basically lives and dies by Miyamoto's labors and Pokemon. The later of those two has always been shitty generic anime art with a bucket of collectathon gloss poured over it, the former (Miyamoto) apparently thinks this generation of children are on the same intellectual plane as a chimp, since all of his games, while unique and charming, are about 75% fluff (such as sailing around in that stupid boat in wind waker, that was fun for the first 10 minutes).
Drinky Crow
Banned
I like to think of myself as a humble missionary, bringing enlightenment to a benighted people.
Drek said:
There's a lot of things SMS is, but pathetically easy it is not.
Well then again I am talking about the good part of the game.
Speevy said:
Indeed. Pikmin 2 captured the oldschool EAD goodness. TWW was good too, but ultimately very flawed. A nice style and a beautiful world ruined because it was rushed.
Spike said:
Now, it's thinking like this that I can't understand. Nowadays, there's more to games than just the gameplay--setting, plot, and atmosphere are all integral elements that combine with the gameplay to create a particular experience for the player. Writing 'blood, gore and violence' in games off as a gratuitious bid for the 'adult' market really misses the point. Nintendo could easily make a free-roaming game like GTA 3, set it in the Mushroom Kingdom, and replace the sex and gunplay with cartoon violence and 'family-friendly' elements, but it wouldn't be the same kind of experience, regardless of how similar the play mechanics are.
I'm a grown man. I can still appreciate Nintendo's games, but I want more than just kid-friendly fare in my gaming diet. I also want to play games populated by grown men and women instead of cartoon characters, games that embrace the same types of themes I enjoy in movies and novels. I'd love to see Nintendo try their hand at that, simply because they are superb craftsmen when it comes to gameplay, and I'm all but positive they could turn out something amazing for older gamers like myself were they so inclined.
AniHawk said:
Well it is In and Out. You can play for 15 minutes and have a lot of fun with it. You can end it there, if you have enough will power.
But their games ARE TOO DAMNED FUN! Some people just can't stop!
You never see anyone playing games like Smash Bros for over 20 hours. That's because it gets boring after a while...
I think pretty much ANY console game gets tiring after 20 hours. I've played LAN Halo matches for a long time, but not more than 20 hours...after 8 or so hours we play other games (and then go back to Halo 1/2 
).
But PC games seem more..."play-to-death" friendly. Games like CS, FLF, Quake 2 CTF...I've played for long periods of time online. At LAN parties you're with others, eating, taking breaks playing ping pong or pool. But on the PC, I play just as long with no breaks except for bathroom breaks, and I don't eat either.
Haven't done it in a while...I guess when I didn't work it was so easy to do it.
).But PC games seem more..."play-to-death" friendly. Games like CS, FLF, Quake 2 CTF...I've played for long periods of time online. At LAN parties you're with others, eating, taking breaks playing ping pong or pool. But on the PC, I play just as long with no breaks except for bathroom breaks, and I don't eat either.
Haven't done it in a while...I guess when I didn't work it was so easy to do it.
Date of Lies
Banned
yes but Nintendo's games aren't based on the monotonious kill-everything-you-see, collect-every-valuable-item and level-up formula. Oh shit dude, no more pots + i gotta go identify all my items. Shit, too much cash, lets gamble some SOJs.Schafer said:
Ask any MMORPG developers, it aint that hard to make an addictive community based game where you try to have the best items, the best skills and be the strongest. That formula is far from unique anymore.
When I imported the original SSB before it came out, a group of friends and I got together that very weekend and played all day long. They all brought their N64's over and we would alternate the system in fear that it would give up. We must have put 25+ hours into it just that weekend. I've do marathon sessions all the time, whether it's multiplayer or singleplayer.Fight for Freeform said:
Using the "hours spent in a row" measure, Everquest is the greatest game known to humanity.
Also, I know for a fact that through all Drinky's "I don't have nostalgia" posturing, all he's really saying is that when OTHERS like a game that's old it's nostalgia, but when HE likes an old game, it's not. But whatever, it's an effective way to troll people... and it's probably something he stumbled upon in his usenet days.
Also, I know for a fact that through all Drinky's "I don't have nostalgia" posturing, all he's really saying is that when OTHERS like a game that's old it's nostalgia, but when HE likes an old game, it's not. But whatever, it's an effective way to troll people... and it's probably something he stumbled upon in his usenet days.
Tellaerin said:
The thing is that these types of games are readily available on both the PlayStation and the Xbox. Those systems skew towards the teens to adults market, whereas the Cube is targeted for the 12 and under crowd. Would it make sense to make these kind of games for a system that targets that crowd? No.
Now, let me explain my position a little more clearly. Yes, I like to experience these types of games too, but why does Nintendo have to make one? There are enough other developers offering these types of experiences for me to enjoy. I don't see the need for Nintendo themselves to go out and do something like this.
Now, that's not to say that I wouldn't like them to do it. It's just that I don't see them as having to do this. I'm sure that we will most likely see something in this regard from Nintendo next gen. Maybe from the Tokyo studio, perhaps?
BTW, I've always dreamed of a Hogan's Alley game in the vein of GTA. Now there is a franchise Nintendo could resurrect into quite an amazing title for older gamers.
Drinky Crow
Banned
Oh, I don't mind reflecting on the classics of yore from time to time, but I also don't ascribe any superior properties to the games of my childhood, Sigmund.
jarrod said:
How's Blizzard not exactly what it used to be?
Did WoW or Warcraft 3 (two latest Blizzard game) dissapoint you or anybody else?
They are practically the best in their own genres, how's that falling short of expectations?
Ghost will be the first Blizzard turd, mark my words.
Borys said:
Come on. Are you really saying that WarcraftIII and WoW are anywhere near the quality of for example Starcraft.
What genre would WCIII be, wannabe strategy/rpg with micromanagement? Well if that's it, then they hardly have any competion
WoW was flawed at release in regards of class strenght, talent trees etc. and still lacks a decent end game.
Both games are still fun but they are not anywhere near their predecessors.
How come you people are forgetting about Nintendogs, Kirby Canvas Curse, Wario Ware: Twisted. Blizzard is good (I liked Warcarft III + FT and enjoyed WoW), but face it. Nintendo is better than any other developer in terms of quality and quantity. Later this year they'll release Mario Kart DS, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Animal Crossing DS, Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga 2... should I continue?
Spike said:
Did I say that, Herc? No, I didn't. Even if I had meant strictly that Nintendo should make "bloody" games, do you think the endgame is to get an M rating? Stop tarding up the thread.
Think about these games that are NOT made for 5-year-olds and AREN'T overtly gorey (or would be easy to de-gore, since there's only maybe one or two frames of gore):
Capcom games in general (Strider, the fighting games)
Square/Enix games in general
Tactics Ogre
Sports games that don't feature bubbly franchise characters
Racing games that aren't go-kart-based
WOW it's a big world EVEN WITHOUT being totally kindergarten-centric, isn't it?
They do a couple things - Metroid Prime and F-Zero (although I'd argue that only the latter actually succeeded in capturing the franchise, this gen). But they are few and far between. The average age of gamers is increasing, not decreasing. Nintendo should stop sucking their thumb and give a shit about the marketplace they're in.
Why should Nintendo "compliment" their own fucking competitors?
All that and more. Complexity. They are openly anti-complexity and it makes their games boring. Seriously, were you actually stimulated by the battles in Paper Mario 2?
radioheadrule83
Banned
If there were a way for me to infect this thread with an internet-transmittable AIDS virus that kills within days, I would unleash it. Even if it meant committing hari kari in the process. I think I'd let Terrene have the progenitor strain, as he's been posting like this for a while now. Truly, there are some bad people here... making bad comments. Bad, bad people!
After their recent bargain-bin-game purchasing escapades, Drinky and MAF choose to pit good companies and games against one another? And in such absolute terms too! I would rather revel in the joy that both offer and attack true shit. But I can't say I'm surprised...
This fits their MO so well that I've been totally ignoring the thread, but seeing as its 5 pages+, I figured I was gonna chime in sooner or later.
Whats the Penny Arcade comic with Link bursting out of some guy's chest at E3 called?
"NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!"
After their recent bargain-bin-game purchasing escapades, Drinky and MAF choose to pit good companies and games against one another? And in such absolute terms too! I would rather revel in the joy that both offer and attack true shit. But I can't say I'm surprised...
This fits their MO so well that I've been totally ignoring the thread, but seeing as its 5 pages+, I figured I was gonna chime in sooner or later.
Whats the Penny Arcade comic with Link bursting out of some guy's chest at E3 called?
"NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!"
adrockthekid
Member
Kroole said:
Saying that Starcraft is better than WC3 is nothing but stupid. Sorry.
And, IIRC, WC3 actually has less obnoxious micro than SC. So go figure.
That said, it's time to install SC again. Haven't put it on the new PC yet; hopefully it doesn't give me any crap.
Criticism != trolling.radioheadrule83 said:
Criticism != trolling.
It is not a troll to criticize Nintendo even if you do it in a "snarky" or "sarcastic" way.
Those who find Nintendo's business practices less than ideal do not deserve to die of AIDS.
Criticism != trolling.
Criticism != trolling.
I've had my fave games made fun of, and you know what? I didn't act like a tard about it.
Get over it.
Criticism != trolling.
Even if you feel defensive and your dumbass sense of brand allegiance makes you want to froth, some people will in the end still disagree with you, so it's probably better to shut the fuck up.
Criticism != trolling.
Criticism != trolling.
adrockthekid said:
I wouldn't say that prefering a real balanced RTS game to a strategy/rpg mish-mash is really that stupid. And I stand by that I feel WC3 has way more micromanagent with all the heros and their special abilities. Guiding 9 nicely animated groups into battle is far more rewarding than guiding one blocky hero and his small group of blocky subordinates.