I think based on this post, I can safely read freakinchair as town.
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Bloodborne |Mafia OT| The Night Brims With Defiled Scum
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I think based on this post, I can safely read freakinchair as town.
Also, reading that Ri'orius post, I think it was so obvious he was scum.
A) He wasn't really saying anything other than policy lynching, which is something very safe for a scum player to do.
B) Not really giving out any other names and just going for other players that aren't really in the radar.
C) His posts are purely pre-meditated and so carefully thought out that it's obvious there is pressure for you as scum not to give away your team mates.
Just from reading Ri'Orius' posts I knew he was scum, hence my vote. It's so obvious, can scum players try out another tactic?
The carefully long thought out posts are a dead giveaway in my opinion.
A) He wasn't really saying anything other than policy lynching, which is something very safe for a scum player to do.
B) Not really giving out any other names and just going for other players that aren't really in the radar.
C) His posts are purely pre-meditated and so carefully thought out that it's obvious there is pressure for you as scum not to give away your team mates.
Just from reading Ri'Orius' posts I knew he was scum, hence my vote. It's so obvious, can scum players try out another tactic?
The carefully long thought out posts are a dead giveaway in my opinion.
Since I'm sticking to my "solo scum" interpretation, this is probably the least informative scum lynch I've ever seen. He knew effectively nothing so none of his accusations or deflections are informative.
Go ahead. Try to implicate me as (one of) Ri'Orius' partner(s). I guarantee you'll look the fool if you lynch me.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I think based on Ri'orius' post, we can also say Seath is town.
Vote: nudull
I am going based on the fact that he just drove in and casted a vote, kind of just joining the bandwagon against Kristoffer.
Likewise, he hasn't contributed much, and being a new player as Haly said, I am inclined to strongly believe he is also scum.
So nudull, are you enjoying the game so far?
Thank you.
Seath if you believe that you are scum, as town it's your responsibility to vote for yourself.
when you say things like this you should really be quoting the things ri'orius said that make you believe that. citation is very helpful.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Same post Seath was analyzing.
Clearly Ri'Orius is making a long term case to outright policy lynch Seath. I think someone who was joined together with Seath in unholy matrimony would excuse his behavior as just "Seath being Seath" (like I was doing) or saying to just wait and see. What Ri'Orius did was sound support for Seath's intense spotlight, even if he did vote for Freakinchair. The reason he voted for Freakinchair was simply because there was already momentum against him.
I didn't really want to defend Seath yesterday after people jumped on me for calling him comical but I quietly predicted that he was simply waiting out the first day, and that on the second day he would be helpful. This has proven correct.
I'm inclined to agree.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I agree about looking at the players who didn't vote for Ri'orius. It was so close near the end that holding out on a Kristoffer or inconsequential Haly vote could have been a bountiful risk.
I disagree about pressuring nudull. If you look at his posts, you'll find that he... doesn't really have any. They're a couple of posts apologizing for not dropping by sooner. Considering that he's also a new player, I'd say this is just a case of an inactive player being inactive (same as Mazre). It'll be a waste of time. He might even get dropped from the game.
Now let's look at a different player who didn't vote for Ri'orius: Verelios. Verelios IS an active poster, but he's also a passive player. Almost all of his posts hide behind the facade of confusion. They're fluff and filler. He strikes out at Haly, briefly, and then crawls back into the shadows. Even more telling is his total lack of contribution when the bandwagon starts happening. He's reading every post, but only comments to ask non-committal clarifying questions, note the fact that there is a bandwagon happening at all, and express amazement at the quick turnaround.
On the outside he looks like:
...But on the inside...
Vote: nudull
I am going based on the fact that he just drove in and casted a vote, kind of just joining the bandwagon against Kristoffer.
Likewise, he hasn't contributed much, and being a new player as Haly said, I am inclined to strongly believe he is also scum.
So nudull, are you enjoying the game so far?
I will say that's it's interesting that you would go to that conclusion. If I really were scum, then why would I be so obvious about it? If anything, I'm just as in the dark as the lot of you. For now, I'm just trusting what my gut tells me.
(And do be a little mindful of pronouns. I usually go by they/them, but I'm not too nitpicky about it.)
Okay then, I'll address your points the best I can. First, I don't know how anyone plays or what their tells are. When people say 'Seath is just being Seath' or this person just pulled a scumtell, I have to wait and think why, or ask why that's so, as I'm not familiar with them. It's like faulting a person new to quiz shows for not pulling out a freaking Layton, it's not realistic.
Second, I didn't really see anything scummy about Ri'orius besides him not posting frequently and some posters pointing it out. Last second there's a sudden bandwagon to kill him, and yeah, I was apprehensive about how sudden it was. In hindsight, he wasn't town, but if he was then that's pretty suspicious.
Third, it was my first day 1. What am I really supposed to talk about when I'm new to Mafia and don't know any of the players here? Lunch? The most you can do is slowly learn and be reactive.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Nice try, but I'm not buying any of it.
Right
Looking at the final hours of the day phase, here are some thoughts about voting behavior of players:
MickD-Last moment vote for ri'orius. Was even too late. Ri'orius was already certain of being lynched at that point. Could be scum panicking and wanting to have someone on the vote.
Weemad- Stayed on haly the whole time, even when it was clear it was either Ri'orius or kristoffer being lynched. Could be scum not wanting to bus Ri, but also not voting for kris to avoid suspicion.
Camjo-Z- Sigh. Well, at least you didn't had an override this time
Kristoffer- voted to safe himself. Doesn't say much, leaning town depending on how many scum ended up voting for him with some more flips.
Freakingchair- Had an early Ri'orius vote. I still think his reasoning was weak, even now that ri'orius flipped scum. Went to kristoffer to safe himself, switched back to ri'orius when called out. Could be scum trying to get off the vote since it unexpectedly took off, but that's unlikely. Feeling town for now.
Haly- stayed on kristoffer. Don't know if he was around during the ri'orius shift though. Could be scum.
Magnum- Was one of the votes that pushed ri'orius in the lead. feels town.
EzekelRAGE- one of the heaviest pushers for kristoffer. Looks pretty suspect. No idea why he got targeted, maybe they thought he was the hidden partner because of that? Possible.
Never forever- pretty late vote for ri'orius, he was already in the lead at that point. Could be a scum bus.
Seath- Early vote on ri'orius. Moved it later, but came back. That doesn't feel like a scum bus to me. Think he is town.
Mazre- one of the latest Ri'orius votes. It was already obvious he was going to be lynched at that time. Could be scum bus.
Palmer- The one that pushed the heaviest for a Ri'orius lynch. I doubt scum would bus a partner that wasn't in that much danger yet like this. Town.
Squidyj- helped palmer with the Ri'orius push. Didn't want to jump on the chair vote. If he was scum, he could easily stayed on kris or jumped to chair, but he didn't. Unless chair is also scum, I feel him as town.
Kalor- One of the votes that pushed Ri'orius into the lead. Like magnum his vote it doesn't feel like a bus to me.
He wouldn't have to give up killing to find his partner, but he would have to give up killing to use his power after it activated. Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me for a 1 person scum team with a hidden partner.
Also, since this hidden partner could get recruited by being targeted by the kill, broadcasting wouldn't be as important. The partner could even try and play very towny to become a natural target for the night kill, and get recruited that way. With the risk of accidentally getting friendly fired out of the way, a hidden partner has a lot more options.
Pressuring inactive players is never a waste of time imo. Inactivity doesn't make you scum per se, but it does give us very little to work with, which could become a serious problem later in the game if they are still around.
MickD-Last moment vote for ri'orius. Was even too late. Ri'orius was already certain of being lynched at that point. Could be scum panicking and wanting to have someone on the vote.
Weemad- Stayed on haly the whole time, even when it was clear it was either Ri'orius or kristoffer being lynched. Could be scum not wanting to bus Ri, but also not voting for kris to avoid suspicion.
Camjo-Z- Sigh. Well, at least you didn't had an override this time
Kristoffer- voted to safe himself. Doesn't say much, leaning town depending on how many scum ended up voting for him with some more flips.
Freakingchair- Had an early Ri'orius vote. I still think his reasoning was weak, even now that ri'orius flipped scum. Went to kristoffer to safe himself, switched back to ri'orius when called out. Could be scum trying to get off the vote since it unexpectedly took off, but that's unlikely. Feeling town for now.
Haly- stayed on kristoffer. Don't know if he was around during the ri'orius shift though. Could be scum.
Magnum- Was one of the votes that pushed ri'orius in the lead. feels town.
EzekelRAGE- one of the heaviest pushers for kristoffer. Looks pretty suspect. No idea why he got targeted, maybe they thought he was the hidden partner because of that? Possible.
Never forever- pretty late vote for ri'orius, he was already in the lead at that point. Could be a scum bus.
Seath- Early vote on ri'orius. Moved it later, but came back. That doesn't feel like a scum bus to me. Think he is town.
Mazre- one of the latest Ri'orius votes. It was already obvious he was going to be lynched at that time. Could be scum bus.
Palmer- The one that pushed the heaviest for a Ri'orius lynch. I doubt scum would bus a partner that wasn't in that much danger yet like this. Town.
Squidyj- helped palmer with the Ri'orius push. Didn't want to jump on the chair vote. If he was scum, he could easily stayed on kris or jumped to chair, but he didn't. Unless chair is also scum, I feel him as town.
Kalor- One of the votes that pushed Ri'orius into the lead. Like magnum his vote it doesn't feel like a bus to me.
He wouldn't have to give up killing to find his partner, but he would have to give up killing to use his power after it activated. Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me for a 1 person scum team with a hidden partner.
Also, since this hidden partner could get recruited by being targeted by the kill, broadcasting wouldn't be as important. The partner could even try and play very towny to become a natural target for the night kill, and get recruited that way. With the risk of accidentally getting friendly fired out of the way, a hidden partner has a lot more options.
Pressuring inactive players is never a waste of time imo. Inactivity doesn't make you scum per se, but it does give us very little to work with, which could become a serious problem later in the game if they are still around.
Freakinchair
Member
Actually nudull is my #2 suspect. I'll explain why tonight - too busy with work today to be able to post. I also have more information to give later but for now: I don't believe that scum killed ezekel. For whatever reason (Doctor?) I think their kill didn't go off last night. To lessen speculation and incrimination before I post later on please refer to the use of the silver bullet. I don't think the beasts are going to be using silver bullets to kill...
ezekel was my #1 target for day 2 lynch (look at his post history) - why would scum throw away that advantage?
As someone who modded a game: Fluff about how someone died almost never indicates actual game mechanics. Its just fluff. Be careful with looking to much into those things.
tfw maf kills off all their good suspicious lynch candidates thinking they've found the hidden partner
Never Forever
Member
Ri'Orius's attitudes towards Seath and Freakinchair make it unlikely he was allied with either of them
Camjo's last minute 'aha is this my chance' was a bit too theatrical considering the flip, leaning misguided Town
MickD too far out of the loop with that late vote to seriously consider as scum
think that scum are more likely to be in the middling tier of Ri'Orius votes where it was more up in the air, last minute panicky slapdash looks bad and may as well not bother, if they even voted for him at all, could always just stay put and hope for the best
all non-Ri'Orius / non-Kristoffer voters at end of day are of interest because they avoided making a strong statement either way and threw their vote away to somewhere non-threatening where it's unlikely to attract direct immediate scrutiny
remind me why your sole criteria seems to be 'eliminating people that dared to criticise me'
not sure if that's how the game works but you do you
Camjo's last minute 'aha is this my chance' was a bit too theatrical considering the flip, leaning misguided Town
MickD too far out of the loop with that late vote to seriously consider as scum
think that scum are more likely to be in the middling tier of Ri'Orius votes where it was more up in the air, last minute panicky slapdash looks bad and may as well not bother, if they even voted for him at all, could always just stay put and hope for the best
all non-Ri'Orius / non-Kristoffer voters at end of day are of interest because they avoided making a strong statement either way and threw their vote away to somewhere non-threatening where it's unlikely to attract direct immediate scrutiny
remind me why your sole criteria seems to be 'eliminating people that dared to criticise me'
not sure if that's how the game works but you do you
Well, then. This will be fun to read.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Yeah, considering you've posted essentially nothing.
I've given what I could, given the circumstances. D1 guessing's always tricky, but at least we got lucky this time.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I also have a theory about ezekel, and will post it if Freakinchair's theory corroborates it. I potentially have a good case for a lynch.
Why wait? Share the theory instead, as it is, you just sound like you're trying to hop on Chair's deductions at this point. You've been painting targets on other people's backs all day, what are you trying to deflect from? I'm looking at your posts, most of which are just blank bait, and I'm wondering what you're doing.
I have to agree. If you have something Kris, then out with it.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
You're trying! It's cute.
You can hide behind an unconcerned facade if you want but eventually, you'll have to pop out and substantiate your claims.
I've been looking through the Ri'orius voters and MickD stands out in particular. None of his posts have been substantial with this quote being the most detailed.
This is interesting as he says that he isn't going with a bandwagon. Then his next post is:
He wasn't talking about the Ri'orius bandwagon earlier as it hadn't started at that point but he provides no explanation for why he had decided to join in on the Ri'orius vote. I read the bandwagon comment as a general anti-bandwagon sentiment so the sudden switch is strange. It could be a scum switching their vote to appear town in the sudden rush at the end of the day. It's a relatively small thing but I'd rather have a vote on someone right now to show where I'm at.
Vote: MickD
This is interesting as he says that he isn't going with a bandwagon. Then his next post is:
He wasn't talking about the Ri'orius bandwagon earlier as it hadn't started at that point but he provides no explanation for why he had decided to join in on the Ri'orius vote. I read the bandwagon comment as a general anti-bandwagon sentiment so the sudden switch is strange. It could be a scum switching their vote to appear town in the sudden rush at the end of the day. It's a relatively small thing but I'd rather have a vote on someone right now to show where I'm at.
Vote: MickD
Looking back at my day's end notes, I feel pretty bad about weemad. Weemad stayed on Haly the whole time, even though they were clearly present when haly stopped being a candidate, and didn't even comment about who between ri'orius and kristoffer they would prefer to see lynched. They just stayed in the background on their Haly vote.
Then today Weemad had the theory about ezekel being killed to protect kristoffer (very unlikely to me), and goes against seath which based on his interactions with ri'orius is not likely to be scum imo. For now I will
vote: Weemadarthur
Then today Weemad had the theory about ezekel being killed to protect kristoffer (very unlikely to me), and goes against seath which based on his interactions with ri'orius is not likely to be scum imo. For now I will
vote: Weemadarthur
Zippedpinhead
Member
I'm really confused... I call out three people in one post.
Hobohodo (call out still think you are scum)
Johnnyquicknives (didn't really understand your vote last day phase, you at least responded)
Kalor (direct vote, flat called you scum hiding out in yesterday's vote)
And other than Johnny answering my question? Crickets *chirp chirp*.
But more Than that
Kalor: you throw out a vote on Johnny day 1, he NEVER responds to your vote. He posts a read list and then disappears until the day before end of day for a vote. Now we all get busy (I know I was busy at end of day) but...
Johnnyquicknives: I don't like your vote or reads list from day 1. It seems very much like a "me too I'm on THIS conversation" because you are on this conversation just talking about it with all y'all scum churchgoers. Posting just enough to not be suspicious (except to me)
Which leads me back to Hobohodo: day one post 232: you mention kalor as having the right idea on lynching day 1. Then in post 292, kalor discusses you with kristoffer saying "what's this vote based on". Not big, not really even a defend.
Then after that... Nothing! It's like you two are playing different games and never talking.
All three of you voted for different people day 1. (Not really a scum tell, just stating the obvious).
So I think that kalor and Hobohodo are scum. I think it's an outside chance the Johnnyquicknives is scum (but less than those two because outside stuff happens).
Hobohodo (call out still think you are scum)
Johnnyquicknives (didn't really understand your vote last day phase, you at least responded)
Kalor (direct vote, flat called you scum hiding out in yesterday's vote)
And other than Johnny answering my question? Crickets *chirp chirp*.
But more Than that
Kalor: you throw out a vote on Johnny day 1, he NEVER responds to your vote. He posts a read list and then disappears until the day before end of day for a vote. Now we all get busy (I know I was busy at end of day) but...
Johnnyquicknives: I don't like your vote or reads list from day 1. It seems very much like a "me too I'm on THIS conversation" because you are on this conversation just talking about it with all y'all scum churchgoers. Posting just enough to not be suspicious (except to me)
Which leads me back to Hobohodo: day one post 232: you mention kalor as having the right idea on lynching day 1. Then in post 292, kalor discusses you with kristoffer saying "what's this vote based on". Not big, not really even a defend.
Then after that... Nothing! It's like you two are playing different games and never talking.
All three of you voted for different people day 1. (Not really a scum tell, just stating the obvious).
So I think that kalor and Hobohodo are scum. I think it's an outside chance the Johnnyquicknives is scum (but less than those two because outside stuff happens).
In my defense it's my first (online) game and learning the ropes. Squid and others asking why I was voting Camjo since it wouldn't count. I was trying to change it last minute to something substantial and got beat by the clock trying to figure out the correct way to write it (the highlight tag). I would honestly look elsewhere. Think of me as the old lady in the chair with a shotgun 😋
Maybe I should have said something to acknowledge it in retrospect but I didn't comment on your vote and accusation as I couldn't defend myself with the reason you gave. You said that my vote switch post sounded like a scum trying to pass off as town which I can see how you came to that conclusion.
I saw that Kris's lynch wasn't happening so I switched so that my vote was actually useful. The sudden surge on Ri'orius is strange but I'm not the person you should be looking at.
flatearthpandas
Member
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt but can you explain this?
weemadarthur
Member
I was at day end. I had terrible lag and couldn't keep up with the vote count. Ri'Orius made scummy posts and I had no reason to defend him like I did with seath on day one. In any case, I have never yet joined a bandwagon on one player when I think another is scummier. The last minute jump felt like it was being led by scum.
Also, if you're assuming everyone that Ri'Orius attacked must be town, then you must give me a pass too. He voted me with very little reasoning apart from a gut read based on a quick post.
Haly has been better on day two, but I don't read him as town.
Palmer, i am confused by your post today laughing at your sudden reversal. Day one, you were protecting Ri'Orius because you thought he was one of the noobs, and then you jumped into pushing a lynch on him. It turns out you were right about his being scum, and given his posts I can see why you thought so. But the 180 in your attitude was still weird. Why did you go on to lol about it? Could you explain your thought process please?
Roy, you have entirely disregarded the speculation, mostly detailed by squidy, about there being two scum teams. If there are, then many of your conclusions don't work, because they rely on one scum team like normal. Are you convinced we have a normal game on that point?
Freakinchair, I am confused by your use of fluff to argue that beasts didn't kill EzekelRAGE. You say he's not the Mafia kill because the Mafia are beasts and they wouldn't use silver bullets. But the Mafia is the healing church, which wants to kill beasts. I am getting my information from a wiki, so if the healing church are really hypocrites and they're all werewolves or something, could you give that detail on the lore please? Why have you been so certain there are beasts who are Mafia?
I was trying to add to the "story" because I feel players aren't really doing a whole lot to move the narrative along. Mod is doing a fantastic job btw! But. Now that I think about it the old lady in the wheelchair with a shotgun would definitely be scum since her doors wouldn't be locked and I'm assuming she had turned.
I know at night I'm locked up tight in my home, I don't even answer the door. The only weapon I have is a torch to burn the wicked. I personally can't read anyone this early yet though.
I guess I screwed up on saying I wasn't pulling a bandwagon then last minute voting with the majority. I just wanted my vote to count because a few were giving me hell and didn't like the answer I gave. Once again, excuse me I'm learning as I go - first timer.
I know at night I'm locked up tight in my home, I don't even answer the door. The only weapon I have is a torch to burn the wicked. I personally can't read anyone this early yet though.
I guess I screwed up on saying I wasn't pulling a bandwagon then last minute voting with the majority. I just wanted my vote to count because a few were giving me hell and didn't like the answer I gave. Once again, excuse me I'm learning as I go - first timer.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
The hilarious thing, MickD, is that there is an enemy in Bloodborne that is a guy in a wheelchair with a blunderbuss that rolls around and wrecks your shit.
I literally only protected him because I thought he was a newbie. It's not some scum gambit to say that I refuse to lynch new players on D1. That's simply not fun. Once I was corrected, he went back on my list of people who were going after me, which I posted about D1. Of those candidates, he was the only one who had any traction, and this was at a point where I was pretty sure Haly and Kriss were bad votes. So I decided to push for ri'orius to see what would happen.
I laughed earlier because I literally warned him that this was possible, though I never expected it to be at my hands. As for my 180 in attitude on D1, it's because I generally wasn't even keeping up with the thread until the last day. At that point, I went back to see who tried to use my D1 attitude to hint at lynching me, caught up on some of their posting specifically, and picked a target.
Zippedpinhead
Member
That's fair. Now be honest what do you think about Hobohodo and Johnnyquicknives?
huh, seems like a lot of people think a scum could have been hiding on the tail end of the votes yesterday, that's encoura... *ctrl+f Mazre* Apparently not worth discussing for anyone else, not even by any existing scumteam.
Yeah, I gotta say I feel pretty comfortable with where my vote is right now.
Yeah, I gotta say I feel pretty comfortable with where my vote is right now.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
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Spoiled Milk
Banned
I'm waiting for Freakinchair's info so I can share my theory. zipped will find it interesting. I don't know how many people will object to it (probably just squidyj).
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I'm contemplating whether that even makes grammatical sense.
Freakinchair
Member
Let's look at the big scum reveal post shall we? I want to dispel this notion that people believe Ri'Orius was working alone.
Both of these examples heavily imply that he was on a team of known individuals so I would be extremely suspect of the people trying to indicate that he had no knowledge of any teammates. Why would people bring that up? Easy. If he was alone then clearly any posts made in his defence or trying to deflect votes on to someone else are free of guilt. I propose that this is not the case which puts Haly and flatearthpandas into my suspicious category.
Secondly - I know scum didn't kill Ezekel. I know this because I'm the one who killed him as I am a Hunter of Hunters. I don't want to go into too much detail on my powers but I am town aligned and my task is to hunt the blood addled beasts plaguing Yharnam. This is why I made the point about the silver bullet in my previous post... I knew all along it was me and I just wanted to see how people reacted to the query. I'm sure scum don't want others to know that their kill was stopped... its more information for town and is one of the reasons why I'm coming out right now. Weemads questioning my silver bullet theory is a scum tell in my eyes right now. I chose Ezekel as my target last night because of his insane defense of Ri'Orius throughout all of day 1 + the reveal that Ri'Orius was in fact scum. I figured that if he died and turned out to be town then we would save ourselves a day by lynching someone else (because surely he would be the next lynch candidate if I left him alive).
What this means is that scum missed their target somehow last night or they also targeted EzekelRAGE (Possible but highly unlikely). Whomever the "Doctor" is did a good job and should be confident that their target is likely a Townie. In the case of multiple doctors in the game then it's obviously not guaranteed... but we don't have that information yet. For the record I am also not requesting protection from anyone; If Scum wants to take a shot at me they can definitely try.
I'd like to point out who are townies or a secondary faction to Mafia:
Myself (Voted for Ri'Orius at the beginning and stuck to it until the end)
Seath (Voted for Ri'Orius at the beginning, changed and revoted for him to force a tie again)
Squidyj (Midway through day 1 voted for Ri'Orius when basically a tie was present)
Palmer_v1 (Near the end of day 1 votes for Ri'Orius when bandwagon starts against me)
roytheone (Starts the bandwagon on Ri'Orious in the final minutes)
Kristoffer (Hops on immediately)
Kalor (Forces Ri'Orius to have the majority)
The rest are possibly scum bandwagons
Suspicious List:
Nudull
Weemadarthur
Haly
flatearthpandas
I looked at each persons posts who stayed on Kristoff until the end as they are the most suspect and my biggest suspicion lies on Nudull. First of all - fairly low key throughout, not many posts.
Complete non-post to start.
Notice how they chose only the easy outspoken targets for lynching or casting doubt? Just following the thoughts of the thread.
Same thing as before - just reiterating the same thing the thread is talking about and dropping a vote on Kristoffer before letting the bandwagons begin (Kristoff leading first).
Yes. At least we got lucky.
I'll have more time tomorrow to go over people responses today but for now:
Vote: Nudull
I'm willing to change my mind on this provided more information comes to light... I'll be here tomorrow for discussions.
Both of these examples heavily imply that he was on a team of known individuals so I would be extremely suspect of the people trying to indicate that he had no knowledge of any teammates. Why would people bring that up? Easy. If he was alone then clearly any posts made in his defence or trying to deflect votes on to someone else are free of guilt. I propose that this is not the case which puts Haly and flatearthpandas into my suspicious category.
Secondly - I know scum didn't kill Ezekel. I know this because I'm the one who killed him as I am a Hunter of Hunters. I don't want to go into too much detail on my powers but I am town aligned and my task is to hunt the blood addled beasts plaguing Yharnam. This is why I made the point about the silver bullet in my previous post... I knew all along it was me and I just wanted to see how people reacted to the query. I'm sure scum don't want others to know that their kill was stopped... its more information for town and is one of the reasons why I'm coming out right now. Weemads questioning my silver bullet theory is a scum tell in my eyes right now. I chose Ezekel as my target last night because of his insane defense of Ri'Orius throughout all of day 1 + the reveal that Ri'Orius was in fact scum. I figured that if he died and turned out to be town then we would save ourselves a day by lynching someone else (because surely he would be the next lynch candidate if I left him alive).
What this means is that scum missed their target somehow last night or they also targeted EzekelRAGE (Possible but highly unlikely). Whomever the "Doctor" is did a good job and should be confident that their target is likely a Townie. In the case of multiple doctors in the game then it's obviously not guaranteed... but we don't have that information yet. For the record I am also not requesting protection from anyone; If Scum wants to take a shot at me they can definitely try.
I'd like to point out who are townies or a secondary faction to Mafia:
Myself (Voted for Ri'Orius at the beginning and stuck to it until the end)
Seath (Voted for Ri'Orius at the beginning, changed and revoted for him to force a tie again)
Squidyj (Midway through day 1 voted for Ri'Orius when basically a tie was present)
Palmer_v1 (Near the end of day 1 votes for Ri'Orius when bandwagon starts against me)
roytheone (Starts the bandwagon on Ri'Orious in the final minutes)
Kristoffer (Hops on immediately)
Kalor (Forces Ri'Orius to have the majority)
The rest are possibly scum bandwagons
Suspicious List:
Nudull
Weemadarthur
Haly
flatearthpandas
I looked at each persons posts who stayed on Kristoff until the end as they are the most suspect and my biggest suspicion lies on Nudull. First of all - fairly low key throughout, not many posts.
Complete non-post to start.
Notice how they chose only the easy outspoken targets for lynching or casting doubt? Just following the thoughts of the thread.
Same thing as before - just reiterating the same thing the thread is talking about and dropping a vote on Kristoffer before letting the bandwagons begin (Kristoff leading first).
Yes. At least we got lucky.
I'll have more time tomorrow to go over people responses today but for now:
Vote: Nudull
I'm willing to change my mind on this provided more information comes to light... I'll be here tomorrow for discussions.
I'd have to go back and re-read the thread, but Chair, you're saying Kristoffer isn't scum based on him immediately hopping on the Ri'orius bandwagon? He was knee deep in brackish infected water already, any life jacket would've been scooped right up. I can't say anything for your other town reads, since most of my thoughts are just gut reactions for now, but Kristoffer? Still suspicious.
I'd really like some more information to go on.
I'd really like some more information to go on.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
...do we really want a vigilante running around? Do we even believe Freakinchair is town-aligned?