buy both. at this price these devices verge on becoming impulse purchases. i assume you have two hands, just decide which one will be the Google hand, which the Apple.
Bloomberg: 7-8" iPad Mini in ~October
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buy both. at this price these devices verge on becoming impulse purchases. i assume you have two hands, just decide which one will be the Google hand, which the Apple.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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At one of their 2008 earnings calls, Jobs said "I think we have to be the best, and I think we have to not leave a price umbrella underneath us."
They're serious about that lately, since Tim Cook managed their inventory to the point that they started saving enough money to cut prices. They still make expensive products, but they're not overpriced in their chosen markets as they were before. For example, no one is cleanly beating the MacBook Air in specs
rice ratio four years later.If this 7" tablet is real, it will be $199 to match competitors. They're not letting competitors undercut them anymore. The iPod touch will either be dead or get a serious price cut.
Interesting. Yeah that or 16:10 would work (assuming it doesn't have a huge bezel).
At one of their 2008 earnings calls, Jobs said "I think we have to be the best, and I think we have to not leave a price umbrella underneath us."
They're serious about that lately, since Tim Cook managed their inventory to the point that they started saving enough money to cut prices. They still make expensive products, but they're not overpriced in their market as they were before. For example, no one is cleanly beating the MacBook Air in specs
If this 7" tablet is real, it will be $199 to match competitors. They're not letting competitors undercut them anymore. The iPod touch will either be dead or get a serious price cut.
I doubt the iPod Touch would be killed off. It serves a purpose because of it's size and is the most portable iOS device that is not a phone. Killing it would be opening up a new gap while filling another.
it's an iPad for $199. what else would Apple need to advertise for these things to fly off their shelves? perhaps this could also explain why they went through the trouble of introducing a die shrink with the most current iPad 2s.
a quad core Tegra 3 is still roughly the equivalent in processing power to the iPad 2's A5. makes sense.
exactly, "it just works", feels nice, and you get all your apps lolz
I highly doubt if these rumours are true that these things will be going as cheap as $199
That would be interesting as the 8 GB touch currently starts at $199 how significant would the drop be on all those lines of products.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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What's the point of making it then?
The strategy would be to not let their competitors undercut their tablet prices.
Maybe there will be a terrible $199 model and the $299 model will be the good one everyone wants, but if this is actually happening, it's to make a $199 tablet.
I would say a small drop but I'm just throwing some thoughts out there. I doubt Apple will try and match the price points of the N7 and will still be able to sell a smaller iPad with a premium attached. I would say even as high as $349.
Do you think that a johnny-come-lately miniPad would be more attractive to consumers than another 7" which costs nearly half the price?
I'm not certain how far the Apple logo and marketing can go there.
Asus Transformer was cheaper and no one cared. Apple does not need to match Google when it comes to price and the 16GB N7 is $249.
The TouchPad was cheaper and people went rabid.
Because it hit a "buy now and think later" price point.
The Nexus 7 will have far more relevance than any Transformer product ever had.
If they followed their pricing patterns with the 3GS ($100 price cut after year 1, $200 price cut after year 2), why do you think 2-year old tech in a body that includes, cheaper/smaller screen, cheaper/smaller battery, cheaper/smaller SoC, probably cheaper/smaller storage at 8 GB, etc. would only cut $150 2 years on?
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I'll be interested to see how this device handles current apps. The form factor would dictate (IMO) that most of the regular iPad tablet apps would need to be redone. You'd actually be better off scaling the phone apps because it would be closer in form factor not counting the size of course.
They'd effectively need another round of apps to compensate.
The Nexus doesn't have this problem as much because there just aren't that many base tablet apps in the ecosystem to begin with.
They'd effectively need another round of apps to compensate.
The Nexus doesn't have this problem as much because there just aren't that many base tablet apps in the ecosystem to begin with.
We have no clue what Apple will build and I would assume at that price point it would be 16GB and not 8.
opticalmace
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Are all iOS apps/games designed for a 4:3 aspect ratio?
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iPhone isn't 4:3.
7.85" 1024x768.
That's a good point. If they start at 16GB, say throw a back camera or something extra, that $50 difference isn't as big a deal.
We know if it is 7-8 it is going to be smaller/cheaper screen, battery, etc. We know the SoC has already been shrunk, and the A5X is unlikely to be used since it offers the same performance as the A5, except it powers a very high-DPI display.
Even if it were just a 2-year old iPad 2 at $349, there's no reason why they'd just drop $50 when they'll start selling the 3rd gen iPad (retina, 1gb ram, nice cameras) for $399 5 months later.
Even then, an iPad mini won't stop Google from making a great penetration in the tablet market, stating with the Nexus 7. The most a mini will do is to slow Google down.
Some people just want a tablet.
I don't think it will happen.
Why would Apple care about the low-end tablet market? Just like when netbooks were the darlings of the industry everyone said that Apple would do something to counter it but they didn't. I see the same thing happening here.
Plus, how is this news? "Sources" have been saying this since last year.
Why would Apple care about the low-end tablet market? Just like when netbooks were the darlings of the industry everyone said that Apple would do something to counter it but they didn't. I see the same thing happening here.
Plus, how is this news? "Sources" have been saying this since last year.
PowerBook G5 next Tuesday.
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True. I guess I was just ingrained in my mind thinking 7" and not 7"-8". That would make it less than 2 inches smaller than the regular iPad tho which makes me wonder about the size and cost.
Ideally you'd think they'd want to keep the aspect ratio because of the apps. I don't see Apple wanting to go the Android route of so many different aspect ratios to worry about during app creation.
Bloomberg putting it out there makes it a little more interesting than the random blogs at least.
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br0ken_shad0w
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Because there's still a market for it as indicated by the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. And Bloomberg isn't just a "souce".
but the same holds true for their iPod lineup - why did Apple care about entering the low-end MP3 market with the iPod mini, shuffle and nano? jumping in at this stage could effectively kill whatever momentum Amazon, B&N and Google were collectively trying to carve out.
Would normally agree, but this is Bloomberg. 99% chance this is real, and a 'controlled leak' from Apple.
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Bring back the Ipod mini instead.
opticalmace
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Oops. So would this tablet have to be 4:3 for compatibility with iPad apps? Someone was saying they think 16:9 (or 16:10) is better for this supposed 7-8" tablet.
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Most tablets that size go for that form factor, but yes that would lose them app compatibility unless they could work some kind of rejiggering/scaling magic.
I found it funny that Bloomberg mentioned "random blogs" in their article:
Would they actually go against Steve's vision?
Probably not.
Good point.
He also said nobody wants to watch video on an iPod, and nobody wants tiny MP3 players.
Followed by Tim Cook saying he was the master of changing his mind at the All Things D conference.
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