Saucycarpdog
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It's k. They got a bunch of money makers coming soon like MIB 23 street and
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Box Office 0729-3116 - Bad to the Bourne, Trek continues to give 'er all she's got
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Violence Jack
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I thought Star Trek was one of the best movies I've seen this year at the theaters. Definitely deserves better, but I think it'll be fine after the foreign release.
Good god on freaking Secret Life of Pets. Cute movie, but Jesus.
GB is truly dead. I honestly think they should scrap this sequel/expanded universe idea, and reboot it a few years later as a true sequel to the original GB films, even if that means having to get a new cast. Whether they are all male, all female, or mixed shouldn't matter. Either that, or slash the hell out of the sequel's budget to something around $50-$60 million and risk losing McCarthy and Feig.
Sony even has me thinking that MiB/Jump Street crossover is going to come in under expectations as well.
Seems like superhero movies, kids films, and reasonably budgeted horror films are the keys to success this summer.
Good god on freaking Secret Life of Pets. Cute movie, but Jesus.
GB is truly dead. I honestly think they should scrap this sequel/expanded universe idea, and reboot it a few years later as a true sequel to the original GB films, even if that means having to get a new cast. Whether they are all male, all female, or mixed shouldn't matter. Either that, or slash the hell out of the sequel's budget to something around $50-$60 million and risk losing McCarthy and Feig.
Sony even has me thinking that MiB/Jump Street crossover is going to come in under expectations as well.
Seems like superhero movies, kids films, and reasonably budgeted horror films are the keys to success this summer.
Ghostbusters came out in July.
They released Angry Birds, The Shallows, and Money Monster (not counting some limited release stuff).
Ratchet and Clank also went out through Focus Features (which Universal owns)
Hades Hotgun
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Okay, we all like what we think of as "good films," but your specific criticisms didn't really clear that up for me.
What about Uhura and Sulu being sidelined impacted the quality of the film? Are they built up in the first act and then poorly utilized later or did you just want them to have bigger roles?
As far as characters standing around talking, I mean, yeah, that is generally what people like about Star Trek. It is often like that, with some action here and there as well. Do you mean that the film is badly executed because it has those kinds of scenes or are those scenes badly handled in and of themselves or was there too little action?
In what way was the editing bad? Are the cuts rough or too frequent or what?
demosthenes
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Was hoping positive word of mouth on Trek would help. Everyone that I've talked to has loved it.
I could give a shit less about Star Trek as a franchise, well beyond the notion of it being a major scifi IP, and Beyond was a good movie on its own merits.
The Emoji movie!
bort
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Trickster
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Depressing how poor Star Trek has performed, really want more stuff set in that universe...
That said I can kinda understand why it's not doing better, felt that the both the trailers and movie itself was kinda meh. You have this amazing universe with so much established lore and potential... And you choose to spent that huge budget making a movie that spends the majority of the movie on some random planet and some random faceless enemy? That stuff was fine in the tv series. But I really think you need to bring the big established lore stuff when you're making these movies.
That said I can kinda understand why it's not doing better, felt that the both the trailers and movie itself was kinda meh. You have this amazing universe with so much established lore and potential... And you choose to spent that huge budget making a movie that spends the majority of the movie on some random planet and some random faceless enemy? That stuff was fine in the tv series. But I really think you need to bring the big established lore stuff when you're making these movies.
He didn't have memory of his name or anything at the beginning of the first movie. Haven't seen this movie but I still think his true past/name is still in question.
KeyBladerXIII
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I'm still holding out for Star Trek.
Besides, a sequel is confirmed, so unless they pull a Tron 3, I'm happy.
Besides, a sequel is confirmed, so unless they pull a Tron 3, I'm happy.
Some More Worldwide Updates:
The BFG - $105M
Independence Day Resurgence - $373M (still making more week to week than I thought it was. Will pass Fury Road after all)
Lights Out - $64M
Ice Age 5 - $254M
Over in China
Skiptrace (Jackie Chan and Johnny Knoxville) - $107M
League of Gods - $30M OW
The BFG - $105M
Independence Day Resurgence - $373M (still making more week to week than I thought it was. Will pass Fury Road after all)
Lights Out - $64M
Ice Age 5 - $254M
Over in China
Skiptrace (Jackie Chan and Johnny Knoxville) - $107M
League of Gods - $30M OW
ElBoxyBrown
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Are we still gonna get articles about GB not doing as bad as people are saying? Like, I'm hearing it's bombing hard and then I read some article that's like "GB is doing fine! Don't worry about it!" lol
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
HATER!
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I think Star Trek is going to follow the trajectory of the Mission Impossible franchise, paying for the sins of the previous movie. So people will get pumped up for the next one after hearing how good this actually is. Like the transition from Mission Impossible 3 to Ghost Protocol.
TheSecondSpitter
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Money Monster
alfredofroylan
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Also "The 5th wave" (that movie based on a YA book that wanted really hard to catch some of the Divergent and Hunger Games audience) and "The Brothers Grimsby"... a Sasha Baron Cohen movie.
xaosslug
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ElBoxyBrown
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Sony greenlit another Underworld movie?
ViewtifulJC
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Dash_Riprock
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That was Daredevil. Underworld just inspired a bunch of shit Halloween costumes that year.
Haha.
I have a bit of a soft spot for that crop of new/young directors that came up in the mid 90s to early 2000s, since that was around the time I started to take an interest in movies beyond a "Jurassic Park has dinosaurs! I like dinosaurs!" sort of level. It's fun to be able to follow a director's entire career as it happens. Shyamalan, Sam Mendes, Wes Anderson, Chris Nolan, Darren Aronofsky, Paul Thomas Anderson, and I guess even Michael Bay all fit into that category.
I think 15-20 years later, it's pretty clear that, if you were forced to pick a successor to Spielberg's role in the world of directors from that group, Christopher Nolan is the only one that remotely fits.
Those were in the previous Jan-Mar quarter.
xaosslug
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the real question is how did Scott Speedman fuck up so bad he's been recast? LOL
Underworld was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtqcUZpB9NQ
Maybe they didn't want to bother photoshopping his huge head to fit the group shot posters
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Sony got nothing left.
Even spiderman is pretty much back at Marvel, soon enough the last step will be taken and the full rights will be gone. GB was a bomb. MIB with Jump Street sounds horrible. They are trying to make Jump street into a franchise, which we'll see how long that will last. Bad Boys? We'll see how nostalgia plays there, but not everything will do Star Wars or JW level as seen by ID. Hotel Transylvania and Smurfs could be successful family films/franchises, but competing against Disney, Pixar, Illumination, and Dreamworks will be tough.
Even spiderman is pretty much back at Marvel, soon enough the last step will be taken and the full rights will be gone. GB was a bomb. MIB with Jump Street sounds horrible. They are trying to make Jump street into a franchise, which we'll see how long that will last. Bad Boys? We'll see how nostalgia plays there, but not everything will do Star Wars or JW level as seen by ID. Hotel Transylvania and Smurfs could be successful family films/franchises, but competing against Disney, Pixar, Illumination, and Dreamworks will be tough.
The dumb thing about the Smurfs is that the second one bombed so the fact they are even going thought with making a third one is mind boggling to me.
Plasticine
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Underworld and Resident Evil have been great franchises for Sony. Reliable money makers that don't cost a ton. The four Underworld movies cost $177 million, but pulled down $458 million at the box office. The six Resident Evil movies earned $915 million off of $250 million in total budgets. They're really what I think a movie franchises should be about: low risk, great rewards. Sony probably wishes they had two or three more franchises just like them.
BronsonLee
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I think he just doesn't want to do them, which is fucking stupid of him
Sad Affleck
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Star Trek needs to get away from the TOS era. It's time for a TNG reboot, the TNG universe and characters are much more recognizable overseas. A lot of people grew up with these characters during the 80s and 90s. TOS was never as popular or culturally relevant in Europe as TNG.
McAvoy Picard? IT IS TIME
Sad Affleck
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That would be a great choice. Cast Tom Hiddleston as Data and the franchise would be ready for a big comeback.
Plasticine
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Hiddleston should be Riker. Ryan Gosling would be perfect for Data.
ViewtifulJC
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isn't she like 5'1'' are something like that
enjoy it now before Hollywood deems her too old
Sad Affleck
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I don't know, he needs to be able to rock a beard. Can he do that?
Edit: googled it, nope. Weak-ass beard, not worthy of Bearded Riker status. How about Tom Hardy?
bananafactory
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The problem is perspective.
It's doing fine for a comedy film. In relation to its budget it's doing bad because it has an action blockbuster budget. People will run stories based on one of those angles but rarely include both because that doesn't get as many clicks
Ya, I think she is short. But so is Natalie Portman, and she was doing Closer and V for Vendetta around that same age. Some people just get stuck playing the same teenage roles until they are 30 I guess.
broncobuster
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I have a difficult time explaining why I believe TNG is tougher to translate into a summer blockbuster than TOS. But First Contact is well liked so who knows.
Which is weird because First Contact is as incompetently written as Into Darkness.
Pop-O-Matic
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It's because when First Contact was on the air, there was still 2 Star Trek shows running on TV so it didn't get put under the same BS "Is it real Star Trek" microscope that '09/ID/Beyond have been as the only pieces of major Trek media in several years...
Star Trek's problem is it took 3 films to really nail that Star Trek feel. The first one was not horrible but it was what people really grew to dislike about the later movies dialed upto 11.. 2 was a completely uninspired rip off of Wrath of Khan that can best be summarized by Spock screaming Khaaaaaaan!
There was always a degree of balance to Star Trek movies until Patrick Stewart decided he wanted to be an Action Star and demanded Star Trek be his action star vehicle.
As for Ghostbusters they just need to trim the budget keep the cast but dump Feig to the curb. He was the weakest link to the whole thing. Get a more competent writer and Director and they can do worlds better.
It would probably also help to not make TV ads that are in attack mode. You don't need an ad for Ghostbusters telling people to get overthemselves etc. You accomplish nothing with that
There was always a degree of balance to Star Trek movies until Patrick Stewart decided he wanted to be an Action Star and demanded Star Trek be his action star vehicle.
As for Ghostbusters they just need to trim the budget keep the cast but dump Feig to the curb. He was the weakest link to the whole thing. Get a more competent writer and Director and they can do worlds better.
It would probably also help to not make TV ads that are in attack mode. You don't need an ad for Ghostbusters telling people to get overthemselves etc. You accomplish nothing with that
MHWilliams
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Sony has nothing and Underworld/Resident Evil make solid money.
Because mainstream audiences don't pay $15 to watch people in costumes talk it out on the big screen. First Contact is more action film than TNG film.
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