Boy points finger like gun, gets suspended
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DonasaurusRex
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what is with this being superfically by the books then when real things go down everyones lookin around scared, or even stopping someone from rocking the boat.
Oh right. I forgot that bullying only happens directly in the victims face. My bad.
Broder Salsa
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If it was bullying there should certainly be consequences, even if nothing ever says this case was bullying, but 3 days of suspension isn't going to stop that either, surely getting a meeting set up with the kid and his parents would be the right action for that, not just suspending him for 3 days. If that is the schools response to bullying that's just as dumb.
Foghorn Leghorn
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My son got suspended for a day and a half over something just as ridiculous in first grade. I get called that my son was fighting and I had to pick him up. I show up and he's sitting in the office crying, petrified because he's in trouble at school and knows he's going to be in big trouble at home also.
So I have a meeting with the teacher, principal and counselor, it starts off all serious about zero tolerance and even if you're getting bullied your not allowed to hit back etc. so the teacher explains what happens, they are in class, my son is getting hit by the class bully and then my son does a combat move or martial arts move thing which is extremely dangerous, so she jumped up from her chair and stopped the fight(why didn't she stop the fight when he was getting punched).
My mind is a blank to what this "dangerous move" could be, so I ask, what exactly did he do? The teacher demonstrates this move:
I look at her kind of confused and asked if this was some kind of joke or something. When the principal stated no, I started laughing. Not one of these ladies from the ages of 28 to mid 50's had seen a three stooges two fingered eye poke prevention lol. There was no reasoning with them, they had already made up their minds that this was a very dangerous move, "he put his hand up to his nose so quickly and he was ready to strike", so I just kept on grinning the rest of the meeting and chuckling. He never even touched the other kid, unless you count the bullies fist hitting his body.
I walked out and my son was waiting in the main office, he gets up and walks over and I asked him aloud why he would protect his eyes like that if he was getting punched and he said, when the stooges do that move and get punched it doesn't look like it hurts them, so he was trying to stop the punches from hurting as bad. My lecture to my kids the few times they have been in trouble is, if you don't think the teacher/rule is right, you have to respect them and follow rules even if you think they're dumb. This time before I left, I told him, to stop crying because you're not in trouble at home and these people are idiots.
The bully didn't get in trouble at all. The school was already working with him and his parents to try and control his anger and violence. He had been signed up for tae kwon do to learn discipline lol. For the next four years the rest of the kids were terrorized by this kid with his karate chops and kicks until he finally moved away. I have no idea why the teacher didn't step in when she saw my son getting hit to begin with.
my wife thought something else must have happened and I was making this story up, because there was no way that any of this could be true. So about 4-6 weeks later she went to his conference and the teacher brought it up first thing. I guess they thought that I hadn't taken his extreme act of aggression seriously enough at the meeting weeks before. my wife asked again what my son had done and the teacher demonstrated the stooge move and my wife just started laughing at her, the teacher told her that this move could potentially cause serious harm, but my wife continued to laugh at this teacher who had her hand up to her nose in stooge fashion. You would have thought that they could have asked family members or looked on the internet to discover their mistake but hadn't, but I guess when you don't think you're wrong, why check. Oh well.
tldr: son being punched by bully, puts hand on his own nose to protect self(like stooges), gets suspended even though never touched bully, bully got nothing.
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If my kid ever gets punched in school, I am giving him full range to fight back. I don't care if there is a no retaliation policy or not. You give the teacher enough time to do something about it (assuming there is one) and then you kick the other kid in the nuts. If I got dragged into school for that I would have laughed at them, told them my kid wasn't being suspended, and if they argued I would punch them and remind them they can't hit me back or do anything (and then get arrested) because there is a no retaliation policy in place and the aggressor apparently isn't at fault.
If my kid ever gets punched in school, I am giving him full range to fight back. I don't care if there is a no retaliation policy or not. You give the teacher enough time to do something about it (assuming there is one) and then you kick the other kid in the nuts. If I got dragged into school for that I would have laughed at them, told them my kid wasn't being suspended, and if they argued I would punch them and remind them they can't hit me back or do anything (and then get arrested) because there is a no retaliation policy in place and the aggressor apparently isn't at fault.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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That's hilarious, cute and aggravating all at the same time.My son got suspended for a day and a half over something just as ridiculous in first grade. I get called that my son was fighting and I had to pick him up. I show up and he's sitting in the office crying, petrified because he's in trouble at school and knows he's going to be in big trouble at home also.
So I have a meeting with the teacher, principal and counselor, it starts off all serious about zero tolerance and even if you're getting bullied your not allowed to hit back etc. so the teacher explains what happens, they are in class, my son is getting hit by the class bully and then my son does a combat move or martial arts move thing which is extremely dangerous, so she jumped up from her chair and stopped the fight(why didn't she stop the fight when he was getting punched).
My mind is a blank to what this "dangerous move" could be, so I ask, what exactly did he do? The teacher demonstrates this move:
I look at her kind of confused and asked if this was some kind of joke or something. When the principal stated no, I started laughing. Not one of these ladies from the ages of 28 to mid 50's had seen a three stooges two fingered eye poke prevention lol. There was no reasoning with them, they had already made up their minds that this was a very dangerous move, "he put his hand up to his nose so quickly and he was ready to strike", so I just kept on grinning the rest of the meeting and chuckling. He never even touched the other kid, unless you count the bullies fist hitting his body.
I walked out and my son was waiting in the main office, he gets up and walks over and I asked him aloud why he would protect his eyes like that if he was getting punched and he said, when the stooges do that move and get punched it doesn't look like it hurts them, so he was trying to stop the punches from hurting as bad. My lecture to my kids the few times they have been in trouble is, if you don't think the teacher/rule is right, you have to respect them and follow rules even if you think they're dumb. This time before I left, I told him, to stop crying because you're not in trouble at home and these people are idiots.
The bully didn't get in trouble at all. The school was already working with him and his parents to try and control his anger and violence. He had been signed up for tae kwon do to learn discipline lol. For the next four years the rest of the kids were terrorized by this kid with his karate chops and kicks until he finally moved away. I have no idea why the teacher didn't step in when she saw my son getting hit to begin with.
my wife thought something else must have happened and I was making this story up, because there was no way that any of this could be true. So about 4-6 weeks later she went to his conference and the teacher brought it up first thing. I guess they thought that I hadn't taken his extreme act of aggression seriously enough at the meeting weeks before. my wife asked again what my son had done and the teacher demonstrated the stooge move and my wife just started laughing at her, the teacher told her that this move could potentially cause serious harm, but my wife continued to laugh at this teacher who had her hand up to her nose in stooge fashion. You would have thought that they could have asked family members or looked on the internet to discover their mistake but hadn't, but I guess when you don't think you're wrong, why check. Oh well.
tldr: son being punched by bully, puts hand on his own nose to protect self(like stooges), gets suspended even though never touched bully, bully got nothing.
Gordon Shumway
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Foghorn Leghorn
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I was never allowed to fight back in school and it was terrible experience. I told both my kids when they started school, that if someone hits you, do whatever you need to to make sure they don't do it again, you won't be in trouble at home. My daughter graduates high school with her associates this year and a full scholarship to finish off her ungrad and only had to fight back once the whole time in school.
My son is in 7th grade and hasn't hit puberty yet, due to his Crohn's disease, so he's smaller then the other kids and about once a week this year he has had to fight back, it's usually him elbowing and kneeing them and then they pull the "dude, I was only playing" card. He's never got into trouble yet. Hopefully he grows soon.
I still get a laugh out of it all these years later. That teacher being so serious with her hand in stooge fashion gets me laughing every time.
peteykirch
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Like 4 or 5 years ago, at my old Elementary School, a kid was suspended for playing Cops and Robbers at recess for the same thing.
FallingEdge
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I don't know what I would've done. I don't have a child, but to not be allowed to defend himself is stupid. I think I'd probably tell the teacher I'd go to the media with this. Not as a threat but as a promise.
I am a pacifist, I was the one breaking up fights throughout my childhood -- but I am all for defending oneself if need be.
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