Boycotting MW2/Activision by buying it used.. anyone?

MMaRsu said:
Borderlands, Tekken 6, Brutal Legend, Forza 3, L4D2, The Ballad of Gay Tony...

Those all come out around the same time, there should be at least something in there..

Borderlands is really the only thing besides some PS3 exclusives and lesser-known PC titles I have interest in.(especially out of the ones you listed) In terms of online console titles, I'd be stupid not get get MW2 until BF:BC2(the definitive of the two) hits. Don't get me wrong though, this nonsense with the PC version makes me mad but I'm not buying the PC version so hey.

The only way I'd boycott MW2 is if all of you join in on my boycott of L4D2.
 
J-Rzez said:
Heh, I agree. It's unfortunate for many other devs that U2 hit, making their work look let's just say vastly less attractive. It's a shame MAG got pushed back to Jan. If it didn't, I wouldn't even bother renting/buying used MW2. Unfortunately, I need a shooter fix, and I need to make my teammates cry (yes, it happened more than once lol) through verbal terrorism :lol[

Doesn't PSN have some kind of quick mute feature as well? On Xbox Live I rarely run into talkative morons online, but when I do games usually have quick ways of muting them. That and the glorious "mute all-non friends" option.
 
Coin Return said:
Nope, 360 version day 1 for me. I'll be sure to send you many, many messages on Live telling you how incredibly fun it is.

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Coin Return said:
Pffft, I'll bet your favorite game is Okami or something equally as lame.

Now that is just ridiculous.
 
Kotick's remarks and Infinity Ward's changes reinforce my decision of not buying anything Activision even more now, and that decision was made a couple month in the past.
 
strem said:
I'm not gonna let IW off the hook so fast. They are a big and powerful developer who can tell Activision that this is BS. But they are playing ball so screw them to.

I remember listening to an interview with a lead from COD4 on a podcast and how they were gonna support COD4 like no game has ever been supported before. 2 or 3 map packs later and that was all.

Its really sickening because this whole thing is about sucking a bit more money out of everyone.
Eh, I don't think it's that cut and dry. Sure, Infinity Ward is the top developer of the biggest franchise right now, but Treyarch proved they can develop a worthy sequel that still sells bucketloads. If World at War had completely bombed, I think Infinity Ward would have more power. Right now, they're still at Activision's mercy.
 
Vercingetorix said:
And? I don't buy or play many games by GAF standards but I still like a new game every 2 years. Hell, I like a lot more than one new game every 2 years.

COD4 may have a lot of replayability, but my friends and I are tired of the maps and weapons by now and want to see something new. MW2 fits the bill perfectly.

I don’t really qualify this as a completely new game, new maps and weapons sounds like something that could be distributed via DLC. I’m happy for the people that are super hyped about this game, I just don’t understand it.
 
Kai Ozu said:
I don’t really qualify this as a completely new game, new maps and weapons sounds like something that could be distributed via DLC. I’m happy for the people that are super hyped about this game, I just don’t understand it.

Isn't that nice :lol I don't consider Halo 3 ODST a new game either, so I didn't buy it. Doesn't mean I go into threads about it and complain about it.

Mr.Snrub said:
Hell, maybe I'll just buy COD4 used instead.

Some razor sharp wit here.
 
Kai Ozu said:
I don’t really qualify this as a completely new game, new maps and weapons sounds like something that could be distributed via DLC. I’m happy for the people that are super hyped about this game, I just don’t understand it.
So a completely new campaign that seems to be hugely upgraded, and improved, from every other Call of Duty, combined with tons of new features in multiplayer and new weapons and maps should be distributed by DLC? You just broke the entire philosophy of sequels and franchises.
 
Kai Ozu said:
I don’t really qualify this as a completely new game, new maps and weapons sounds like something that could be distributed via DLC. I’m happy for the people that are super hyped about this game, I just don’t understand it.

It is a totally new game, lots of new MP modes, single player campaign, less scripted stuff ( or so I hear ), that coop spec-ops thing.

Honestly the game looks and sounds great.

derder said:
I'm pretty sure buying it used through gamestop is a greater evil than buying it new anywhere.

read thread before you post
 
Kai Ozu said:
I don’t really qualify this as a completely new game, new maps and weapons sounds like something that could be distributed via DLC. I’m happy for the people that are super hyped about this game, I just don’t understand it.
I don't think anyone considers it a "new" game. Before the irrational hate spewed up over the PC/PS3 versions, the official thread had pretty much turned into "yay it's like cod4... yay".
 
I kind of never played my copy of MW1. I played the ship, got stuck in the door and thought, "fuck this, hate FPSES anyhow". I'm probably one of the few people out there who don't care for this franchise.
 
Son of Godzilla posts "lulz nobody thinks this is a real new game" directly after people post about how it is obviously a new game.:lol

Try harder. Really.
 
Vercingetorix said:
Doesn't PSN have some kind of quick mute feature as well? On Xbox Live I rarely run into talkative morons online, but when I do games usually have quick ways of muting them. That and the glorious "mute all-non friends" option.

I only play MW on 360. People just roll over and take it for some reason. :lol
 
I'll buy it new to support Infinity Ward...but I'll import it from America because Activision UK can suck a dick if they think I'm paying anything close to £54.99 for it
 
Every time a new CoD comes out, I buy it, play it through on normal, realise what a completely awful fucking gameplay model it has, and then get rid of it. This will be no exception.
 
painey said:
Every time a new CoD comes out, I buy it, play it through on normal, realise what a completely awful fucking gameplay model it has, and then get rid of it. This will be no exception.

"I buy games I don't like so that I can talk about how horrible they are on internet forums."

Do you have some kind of condition that prevents you from learning from past experiences or something?
 
MMaRsu said:
Hey guys.. so after Kotick's remarks, and the recent no dedicated servers for PC debacle, I have decided to say fuck you to IW/Activision by buying used. This will be a hard thing to do for me personally, because a lot of my XBL friends are going to bitchslap my ass for not buying it day one. If I can get it day one used, then hell yeah I will. Doesn't really matter if it costs me close to a new copy.

I know especially Eric WK is going to bitch to me about this but whatever.. Borderlands will do fine till I can get this second hand. I was hoping some more people would do the same and support the cause :).

Let it be known that I have nothing against the IW devs in particular, I mean they work hard on this game but yeah.. the publisher doesn't give a fuck about it's customers, and apparently neither does IW about the PC customers ( where the company has it's roots ).

Not buying MW2 period, not buying another IW game until they're no longer owned by Activision, I'm sure IW and Activision won't miss my $60.
 
Vercingetorix said:
Son of Godzilla posts "lulz nobody thinks this is a real new game" directly after people post about how it is obviously a new game.:lol

Try harder. Really.

Um, are you dyslexic? he's making the point that the reason people hype this up from videos is because it seems exactly like CoD4. It's no different than the L4D2 defense of "L4D was awesome; L4D2 is more L4D; therefore, L4D2 is awesome." It's also similar to CoD World at War being considered a WW2 mod for CoD4.
 
Vercingetorix said:
Son of Godzilla posts "lulz nobody thinks this is a real new game" directly after people post about how it is obviously a new game.:lol

Try harder. Really.
The developers can swear up and down about how non-assy the campaign is, and that this time they really mean it, or about how there's buckets of exciting new ways to bling out your killscreen in multiplayer, the game is still pretty much the same game. Most people have accepted this and are still excited.

The co-op is new. Forgot about that.

And before you start with the "OH WELL WHAT DID U EXPECT", don't. Sequels to multiplayer standards are weird.
 
I'll buy two new copies and sell one to you used day 1 for $60 + tax and shipping. We will make such a statement together.

So PC version really doesn't have dedicated servers? If true that is unacceptable and I am just going to get the 360 version. PC gaming has been getting the shaft I am at the point where I will only buy PC exclusives on PC.
 
Linkzg said:
Um, are you dyslexic? he's making the point that the reason people hype this up from videos is because it seems exactly like CoD4. It's no different than the L4D2 defense of "L4D was awesome; L4D2 is more L4D; therefore, L4D2 is awesome." It's also similar to CoD World at War being considered a WW2 mod for CoD4.

Do people expect them to ditch the controls and high framerate or something just to make it different enough to be considered a "new game" by some random arbitrary standard they've just made up?

The controls were great in the first COD4. They made other console shooter controls feel horrible. Of course I want the great controls and framerate and netcode from the first to return, but I also want improvements.

It's especially ridiculous that people are fixating on MW2 having nothing new when there are games like ODST that charge full price for shipping with a two year old multiplayer mode completely unchanged. Nice set of double standards there.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
I don't punish developers for actions of their publishers that they cannot control.

So you think IW has no control over this? :lol :lol :lol

IW was like, yeah we are doing this for the best of the community :lol

g35twinturbo said:
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quality post right there.
 
Sigh, I'm just saying that we are not yet privy to all the information. You don't think IW have a plan behind ditching modding- & dedicated server support? I'm sure it'll work out just fine in the end. Not buying the PC version because there's no dedicated servers doesn't seem like a smart move to me, that's all.
 
Will buy used. I know it's not a nice thing to say but I hope that MW2 some what flops when people finally get the game.
 
Minamu said:
Sigh, I'm just saying that we are not yet privy to all the information. You don't think IW have a plan behind ditching modding- & dedicaded server support? I'm sure it'll work out just fine in the end. Not buying the PC version because there's no dedicaded servers doesn't seem like a smart move to me, that's all.
Of course they have a plan, and this is it. By disabling dedicated servers, they have full control of what content people can play. Previously, any DLC maps would have been available as custom maps for free on dedicated servers. They've finally found a way to milk PC gamers.

On the down side, tens of thousands more people will be pirating the PC version.
 
MMaRsu said:
So you think IW has no control over this? :lol :lol :lol

IW was like, yeah we are doing this for the best of the community :lol

Activision owns IW. IW gets paid to make a game and if the publisher who is giving said paychecks to the developer makes a request, then they can push back but at the end of the day Activision has the final say.
 
Ultimatum said:
Of course they have a plan, and this is it. By disabling dedicated servers, they have full control of what content people can play. Previously, any DLC maps would have been available as custom maps for free on dedicated servers. They've finally found a way to milk PC gamers.

On the down side, tens of thousands more people will be pirating the PC version.
Well, when you put it like that, it sounds really awesome for IW tbh :lol Except for the last part.
 
Minamu said:
Sigh, I'm just saying that we are not yet privy to all the information. You don't think IW have a plan behind ditching modding- & dedicaded server support? I'm sure it'll work out just fine in the end. Not buying the PC version because there's no dedicaded servers doesn't seem like a smart move to me, that's all.
Don't know how long you've been playing shooters online on PC. I myself have played less and less online, but I used to be quite into it, and let me tell you, dedicated servers have historically been THE groundstone for online communities. This is a simple fact.

Even the shittiest games thrived regardless of how shitty they are because some random dudes decided it would be fun hosting a server on their vroot.

A game that doesn't feature them is pretty much on auto-ignore.
 
Son of Godzilla said:
hey dude now would be a gud time 2 mention that buying br%263tal legend instead of this is a good way to stick it to activison.

That is also true but hey I don't want to look like I'm shilling the game. Lots of posters have already said that I am fucking annoying with my shitty threads ( only made two brutal legend threads :lol ).

But yes, buying Brutal Legend instead of this ( which Activision dumped because they didn't think it had exploitation potential ) is a good way of sticking it to them. However I do not think the majority of the Call of Duty fanbase would be a fan of Brutal Legend.

I don't want to tell people what to do with their money though :).
 
Rez said:
I'll be buying it used in any case. I admire Infinity Ward's work, don't get me wrong, but it just isn't the sort of game that gets me in an "omg day one" mood. They're super fun games that never really have anything all that remarkable about them, although COD4 is the best of its kind.

I know I'll get a decent couple of hours of fun out of it in the end. 'Big dumb shooters' have their place on my shelf.
Pretty much what I'm gonna do. Same thing I did with CoD4. Picked it up used for about $40 from someone. Played through single player. Sold it a few months later to EB for $37. I really don't have interest in multiplayer as none of my friends play it anyway.

Now that I have a nice PC I might get it on PC though. I wonder how the DRM works? Can you lend out MW2 or buy it second hand?
 
MMaRsu said:
That is also true but hey I don't want to look like I'm shilling the game. Lots of posters have already said that I am fucking annoying with my shitty threads ( only made two brutal legend threads :lol ).

But yes, buying Brutal Legend instead of this ( which Activision dumped because they didn't think it had exploitation potential ) is a good way of sticking it to them. However I do not think the majority of the Call of Duty fanbase would be a fan of Brutal Legend.

I don't want to tell people what to do with their money though :).

COULD YOU PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP BRUTAL LEGEND? DAMN!
 
Firestorm said:
Pretty much what I'm gonna do. Same thing I did with CoD4. Picked it up used for about $40 from someone. Played through single player. Sold it a few months later to EB for $37. I really don't have interest in multiplayer as none of my friends play it anyway.

Now that I have a nice PC I might get it on PC though. I wonder how the DRM works? Can you lend out MW2 or buy it second hand?
It sounds like the DRM will primarily be Steam based ala Saints Row 2 and Dawn of War 2.
 
For every person that is "boycotting" MW2 by buying a used copy, I will buy an extra copy to smite them and their poor logic.
 
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